To be fed up with more houses

[Bloke23]

I understand the need for more houses currently in the UK, but the town I live in it has become redicouls, the thing that pisses me off is they never do anything with the roads, no new doctors surgerys, no new schools etc, we have 2400 homes just been built around the corner from us!

Our lovely rugby club has been sold off, they are building around 200 new homes on the grounds!
A house around the corner was sold off, knocked down and 3 houses have gone up in its place!

Sorry this is more of a rant

Do not fed up of more houses but rather piss poor planning by the local authority. Yanbu.

Well people need to live somewhere.

But as a PP said, it's the planning authority you need to have beef with

Same here but (rabbit hutches in the sky) flats. Train station is almost dangerously full as the route out is so narrow. Schools are building for extra classes - 4 per year primary schools. No GP in a mile radius.

Same! They closed a doctors surgery in my town but keep building houses. Boils my piss.

Building new surgeries won't help. There aren't enough GPs.

The problem is that people have to live somewhere and there is always someone that is going to object to new developments wherever you build them. From my perspective, I actually think brownfield development and things like knocking down one house to build several others is a sensible way to tackle the housing shortage. Of course, we must also improve the infrastructure and build the required facilities to support the extra people populating the new houses. I think your concerns about this are valid, but surely the answer is to focus on improving and expanding the infrastructure so that it can cope as opposed to seeking to prevent more houses being built?

redicouls

People need homes, you need to get angry with planning

There are not enough places for people to live so it's sad but a necessary evil as such for people like yourself who I assume has secure accommodation.

However, there are also not enough schools to accommodate the building of these houses either which for me is the real issue when they build the houses.

Of course everyone deserves a place to live, I guess my anger is misplaced and should be focused on the planning department!

And there is no increase in local hospital bed numbers or maternity capability (despite the fact these houses will bring in growing families and couples looking to have kids).

Same thing happening here ( Manchester).

And you’re right - it’s a issue to do with schools, traffic, GPs, resources etc.

All councils have to do a local plan ...There are consultation periods and opportunities to comment and get involved to help shape your future community.

Good councils will research and consult ones that know they can get away with just doing what they want with no opposition will do.

When those letters come round inviting you to comment on a housing plan up to 2036 go and question and find out as much as you can even if it seems a waste of time is my advice.

Far too many protests about housing etc come after consultation periods have closed.

YANBU

Can’t stand Nimbys

I might be being stupid but I can't get my head around the 'need more houses' thing. Walking through my town there are numerous houses for sale on every street, from studio flats above shops to the road of swanky Edwardian detached properties by the park, and 50% of the houses on the new build estates on the edge of the town seem to be on the market at any one time. And still they're building more.

A friend took her house off the market this summer after it failed to sell in a year of trying. Buyers seem to have a lot of choice.

We need more council housing/affordable housing, both of which are typically included in new housing plots.

I live in West London and the amount of new build going up is scary (the re-rise of the high rise just bothers me massively).

I don't object to trying to provide homes, I'm not sure wedging them in on every possible bit of land is ideal but needs must, however what my local authority are allowing is the constant building of 'luxury apartments' which will be unaffordable and sold to investors. The lack of family homes and properties, and affordable ones at that, isn't being addressed at all. It's a total balls up and it's happening all over the country....

I’m a planner, I work in a local authority.

It is not the local authorities fault, the policies come from central government and if local authorities don’t follow the guidance they face significant and harsh consequences. So if you don’t vote (at any level) you should, read about growth policies.

It frustrates me no end that the community only engage (and this is a general comment) when a planning application is submitted. Most ignore when the local plan is published and has numerous rounds of consultation. That is the time to get involved as the larger sites would be identified at that point. But people are apathetic or don’t understand and therefore don’t engage - miss their chance and then blame everyone else when outline permission (or full permission) is subsequently approved.

In terms of infrastructure, there is also a lot of misunderstanding. The government always spout off about infrastructure being provided first, but the reality and development finances just don’t work like that. Once permission is granted, normally highway works take place first, but things like schools come later - the money is generally provided the the education authority who then take a couple of years to procure and develop it. In terms of GP surgeries, in my experience the local health authority doesn’t engage in the planning system and therefore loses out on funding opportunities.

It’s easy to blame the local authorities, but hopefully this helps in people’s understanding of the complex processes and reliance on the community and organisations engaging with it.

I just said this on another thread. Our town is the same. Since I was a child there have been 11 new housing estates built. No new schools, still 1 doctors surgery and the academy in this town is the academy for most of the children in the 3 towns that surround it! They have finally given in and decided to build a bigger nursery, not an extra one because they are knocking the old one down.

Houses for sale doesn't mean they are empty, new builds aside, there are usually people living in them. Houses for sale is about movement in the market, not available housing in areas where it's needed.

I've a new estate going up near me, a massive one, with the infrastructure to match. So far I'm ok with it, but let's see.

I agree. I live in what used to be a village but is now fast becoming a sprawling mass of houses with no amenities to support them. The school is needing replaced, there is only one village shop and not much else. It's so depressing. There will be no green fields left to look at soon.

Also the new builds are very rarely affordable for locals. At least here in south east.

The town I live in, has 2 massive Tesco's, 3 aldis, 3 lidl's, waitrose's a big co op, we also have the biggest sainsburys in the UK, and they are gonna be opening another sainsburys similar size to our Tesco's, so on the food front we are ok, but we just lack all of the other stuff, our town centre and the surround area cant handle the traffic as its built off Roman town so the roads cant be made bigger etc