To be fed up with more houses

[Bloke23]

I understand the need for more houses currently in the UK, but the town I live in it has become redicouls, the thing that pisses me off is they never do anything with the roads, no new doctors surgerys, no new schools etc, we have 2400 homes just been built around the corner from us!

Our lovely rugby club has been sold off, they are building around 200 new homes on the grounds!
A house around the corner was sold off, knocked down and 3 houses have gone up in its place!

Sorry this is more of a rant

I agree, not with more houses but poor planning. A couple decades ago planning was done on a wider scale, where schools, transport, open spaces etc were calculated to give a good quality of life and so urban areas were cohesive and smart. Now, mostly due to less public planning, it's done in a limited short cycle way focusing on specific private projects rather than wider urban planning. Our city's local "plan" is laughable.

Also the fact they ram houses in together in small spaces, with shit amounts of parking claiming to be encouraging more environmentally sensitive transport options for the transport links not to be there in the first place or not put in place in future.

I agree with you OP, and it has nothing to do with being a NIMBY.

Where I live, every bit of green space is being built on, London gentrification has seen a huge influx of people to the town, and sadly a massive rise in crime, especially gangs, stabbings and shootings. We've had all but one police stations closed so the land can be built on, our roads are gridlocked everyday (and all speed limits are being reduced, you know, air pollution reasons ), the hospital is always on alert due to not having enough beds, no GP appointments for 5-6 weeks, no new schools or surgeries etc to cope with the amount of people living here. I'm addition, local people cannot afford to live here, so that's even more people to the town. It's all new builds with zero parking - so much chaos because there is nowhere to park.

It makes you despair at how things are and there's bugger all you can do about it

OP your house was once a green field with neighbours complaining about development. It's a bit rich to complain you don't like it.

We've had a call for sites where I live. Quite a lot of landowners have submitted plots they're willing to sell for housing development (as per the central government mandate we have). Yet people are still moaning at the council. The landowners voluntarily suggested these sites!

YANBU. It’s shit. Green belt sites are built on when brownfield sites are left to rot. Massive problems with school places. Lovely little villages and towns now sprawling, ever expanding messes.

@BuzzShitbagBobbly you could say that about every house 🙄

How would you sort out the housing crisis OP, without building new houses?

Yanbu. House building can't go on at the rate it is indefinitely. Where are all these people coming from who fill all these thousands of houses!
They are building in every inch of land round my town. No infrastructure put in place. Schools are oversubscribed, can't get a doctors appointment, roads are gridlock, hospital is run down and overstretched. Oh but let's keep bringing thousands more people to the area

keepingbees, I totally agree with you. Sadly while it can’t go on indefinitely it can certainly go on for a good few years / decades? Enough for the landscape to be irreversibly altered and the education system even more unable to cope than it already is anyway.

Massive building everywhere around me in Cambridgeshire. Huge developments. Green space disappearing. I hardly look anymore, it’s become a way of life.

I don’t look either. It’s too depressing.

There are thousands of empty flats in London, yet thousands more are being built.

Every green space is disappearing and is replaced by more empty flats.

No infrastructure, transport crowded, GP appointments like gold dust even now, with most of the flats still empty. What will happen when they do sell, I have no idea.

Councils refuse planning permit but GLA bulldozes is through.

Madness.

Though I've posted about the lack of cohesive planning, green space is not disappearing rapidly, less than 6% of the UK is built on and we're still not building enough for demand.

It is fucking depressing and I say that as a long term renter who can’t afford to buy.

We need more social housing, start to sort that and the rest will follow. It’s the total lack of regard for wildlife, no provisions made, just cram as many units on to one site as possible. No ecology reports to see what’s there so it just gets wiped out.
There’s also no provision for work spaces and storage garages. Not attractive in new developments.
Look at how 1930’s developments were planned, houses, work spaces, bungalows, maisonettes. Gardens, shops, schools, doctors. All there, that’s what we need to emulate.

green space is not disappearing rapidly
Surely it’s subjective to where you live. Where I am, it is.

You don’t live in Truro by any chance?

Everyone has to live somewhere but it’s a problem when hundreds of houses are built without the infrastructure needed for the extra people, cars etc.

Sounds like somewhere near me, one of the fastest growing towns in the UK as well as oldest recorded town.
Vast amount of houses being built but hardly any of them "affordable" to locals on average wage.

Target market is well off London commuters.
When developers apply for PP they say they will build an agreed number of affordable dwellings, then once they've got going decide they can't afford it. And the council lets them get away with it .

@SaveKevin yes of course, it's certainly happening in parts where I am (although still plenty of other green spaces to go to) but I'm in an area of rapid population growth, the house building will be happening where it's needed? What do you expect people to do, move elsewhere as you were there first?

Although to contradict myself somewhat, I read a really interesting article about how one way we could alleviate the housing crisis and stop hot spots with unmanageably high prices is to improve transport links across the country. If people could live further out from where the worked due to sustainable, affordable travel (ie trains I think was the main point) then we wouldn't have overbuilt areas with huge price tags.

I have no issue with them building new homes near me.

I do have issues with people building many new homes without sorting out the infrastructure. People are going to need schools and GPs. They are highly unlikely to all be young childless couples who are somehow going to vanish from the area when they are thinking about settling down and having children.

Also we don't need hundreds of 1 bed luxury flats or ones being sold off as investment, rather than to live in. We need homes for families and cheap 1 bed flats (rather than £££ luxury ones).

Look at how 1930’s developments were planned, houses, work spaces, bungalows, maisonettes. Gardens, shops, schools, doctors. All there, that’s what we need to emulate.

To be fair, that's exactly how the town being built next to us is being planned, the issue seems to be when individual developments spring up, no one deals with the infrastructure.

But a new town, planned by homes England, thr government basically, does take account of the infrastructure required. The one near us will have schools, faith places, a new ring road, a medical centre, library, 50 percent green spaces, and shops, cafes, a crèche and restaurants.

As said the issue is when individual plots of land are built on, no one then goes in and puts in the infrastructure or improves what's there.

The same where I live.
Hundreds of new homes and no extra services.
It`s down to greedy shitty councils looking at the £ sign
The more houses the more council tax revenue.

Same here. We're waiting for planning decision relating to new development of 700 houses which will increase the size of the village by 30% without any increase in school places, doctors, shops, parking or traffic controls. The developers maintain that none of these things are necessary but it's a fact that two primary schools are over subscribed, the secondary school, which is in the next town, is over subscribed and you can't park at the railway station as it is.

The village is in an aspirational postcode, so a new estate would be very easy to sell, but not affordable for young people who have grown up here. It's a bloody disgrace tbh.

@SaveKevin This book covers what you mentioned + more....

www.insidehousing.co.uk/insight/the-rise-and-fall-of-council-housing-56139

Local transport links are in desperate need of investment everywhere, but look at the amount of money wasted on HS2. (And the non existent Garden Bridge in London. Well done Boris).