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To ask how Brexit will BENEFIT you/your job?

154 replies

ReasonablyIntelligent · 05/09/2019 08:49

Off the back of the other thread, I wanted to see if anyone could share how Brexit will tangibly benefit them?

I'm shocked by how many people will be/have been so acutely affected but Leave is very strong, very popular so there must be a flip side?

I'll mention I voted Remain and would do so again, but I'm NOT after a debate/bun fight about it. Just simply flipping the question to try and understand further.

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OneHamm3r · 05/09/2019 22:01

I’m loving the way lower standards through lack of competition and higher costs are being trotted out as positives.Confused

Cam77 · 05/09/2019 22:02

The businesses that manage to stay afloat after Brexit will have less competition. Mangling the economy for the win!

Chickoletta · 05/09/2019 22:03

None.

We are facing up to the probability of the family farm going bust.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 05/09/2019 22:03

It won't. I work in academia.

wobytide · 05/09/2019 22:05

Downing Street decorator. Business is booming

MoonageDaydreamz · 05/09/2019 22:09

Really not getting 3 anybody can train to be a doctor or nurse at the moment if they have the grades and inclination

But they can't, as more people apply for training than get on. I'm not saying that everyone who applies to be a nurse or doctor is suitable, but I personally know people who are very smart, had high grades and who are compassionate who didn't get into medical school first time round.

Catherineofaragon the foreign students that subsidise universities are mainly non-eu students who pay much higher fees, currently we have to charge eu students the same fees as British students as we're not allowed to give British people preference over eu students. And we have to offer eu students the same loans as British students get and a huge number just never pay them back (something like 20 percent) which the British taxpayer just writes off as we never get that money back.

Some research is eu funded but given that the UK are net contributors, we are just getting back the money we have already given to the EU. Once we don't pay this money to the EU there is no reason why our taxes cannot continue to give this finding directly to universities, but we have more control over the amount and the priorities for the type of research that should be funded.

Spinnaret · 05/09/2019 22:10

It won't. I run clinical trials for the Pharma industry. No one wants to use data from the UK anymore as it might not be accepted by the EMA. So, less work for me, higher chance of redundancy. The UK will be a third country in later waves for registration and will have to just accept products based on data from other countries, or refuse to register novel products as the RoI will not justify separate UK studies.

Barbie222 · 05/09/2019 22:11

I stand to gain quite a bit by speculating against the pound as it falls in value and hopefully reducing the tax I need to pay across my investments even further. Oh, wait, I've had my feet up today and got myself confused with Jacob Rees-Mogg again.

LadyofMisrule · 05/09/2019 22:13

It will make my job harder in myriad ways. I cannot see any benefits.

RainbowMum11 · 05/09/2019 22:15

I am already being made redundant and my job will be done by people at the HO in Spain :(

BeachComber1 · 05/09/2019 22:15

Not me directly, but my husband's company has vastly benefited from Brexit. They’ve taken on something like £0.75trillion in accounts this year alone. They’ve taken on more staff, salary increases have been very generous, and bonus are brilliant. He’s just been given a retention bonus equivalent to 50% of his salary to ensure he won’t leave between now and 2021, as they need someone who has a lot of experience in client on-boarding. He speaks 4 languages (English, French, German, Russian) so his ability to service clients in so many different countries is very much in-demand. A lot of the new funds are European-based, and like to operate out of English-speaking markets.

Now, we’re in Dublin and those are funds that were moved out of London but still- woohoo!!

Hoping to put some of that bonus towards the holiday home we had wanted to buy in the UK. The area we wanted to buy in has seen properties drop by about 20% since 2017, so going to see how much further it drops before we buy.

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 05/09/2019 22:17

I have staff who are based in the UK working on French and Italian contracts. I might have to let them go and reduce my business so it is only UK based.

If Scotland becomes independent the same may happen there.

I'm not sure what will happen with the contracts I have in ROI, but we're working on plans to move out of that area as well

The result? My business could lose nearly £million and I might have to make up to 50 people redundant.

jackparlabane · 05/09/2019 22:17

I'm a civil servant, expert in various subject areas, being paid to ensure Brexit doesn't fuck them up more than necessary.

We can't recruit fast enough, so I can relax in the knowledge that I can make use of flexible working, insist my reasonable adjustments for disability are kept to, and that my management are desperate for me not to quit. And that there will continue to be plenty of work for the next decade.

I'd still prefer to Remain, though.

PigletJohn · 05/09/2019 22:17

I was interested to hear that wages for carers may be forced up due to worker shortages.

If only there was some way that employers could be compelled to pay a wage which was sufficient to a worker to live a decent life. There might be some way we could calculate what that wage would be. and we could outlaw the practice of compelling workers to do a 12-hour shift but only be paid for 6 hours by not including time going from one client to another.

We could call it a "legal wage that you can't pay less than"

Or is there a shorter name we could think of?

Cam77 · 05/09/2019 22:18

We laugh and joke about it but it’s actually really sad what the British have been led to do to their country. I hope people remember this like the people in Leeds today whenever Alexander “Boris” Johnson, one of the prime instigators of this chaos, delivers another shit joke/bit of witty Eton repartee on the TV.

MoonageDaydreamz · 05/09/2019 22:20

I’m loving the way lower standards through lack of competition and higher costs are being trotted out as positives.confused

Why is lack of competition necessarily lower standards? Are we saying that British young people are not good enough to train to be doctors and nurses (for example) so we have to import talent from elsewhere?

And higher costs because people get paid a decent living wage... Well we can't have it both ways, we either think that people should get paid what they deserve for difficult roles like care/support work or believe it should be a race to the bottom to try and find the cheapest labour possible for those roles.

And none of this is suggesting that there is no immigration so therefore no competition, only that we make sensible use of the talent and labour force indigenous to our own country.

In countries most consider Liberal like Canada, an employer has to prove that they can't employ a Canadian for a role before they employ a foreign national, no one wrings their hands and accuses Justin Trudeau of being a facist.

BogglesGoggles · 05/09/2019 22:24

DH and I are/will be (studying but have job lined up) both in professional services fields. Demand for advice will be higher than usual. We are currently renting so may choosing to take advantage of any property slump that occurs to buy cheap then sell at a profit before moving back into rental.

forkfun · 05/09/2019 22:26

As I receive most of my royalties in other currencies, my income has gone up due to the falling pound.

As a EU national I couldn't vote in the referendum, but I'm the only person I know who has financially benefitted so far. Cheers, Brexit!

Cam77 · 05/09/2019 22:27

It’s good that at least a minority of people will be able to financially capitalize on the shock to jobs, industry, and the pound. That’s what Brexit was all about for its elite backers from the get go and they will get their wish.

Frequency · 05/09/2019 22:28

The same for the suppression of wages in sectors such as care work / support work

The wages in care work aren't suppressed by foreign workers. We can't get enough care staff. We're not overrun with an abundance of Polish workers willing to work for tuppence for an hour. Frankly, we wish we were. Right now the care industry would hire anyone, from anywhere. English, Polish, Spanish, Turkish, Purple Polka Dotted Aliens from Mars. If they could pass a DBS check, they'd get the job. The reason we don't have enough staff is that English, Polish, Turkish and Martian people aren't willing to wipe bottoms, mop up vomit and converse with dementia patients for less than Aldi is willing to pay them to stack shelves.

Wages in the care sector are suppressed by austerity, which I do believe is a Tory policy, not an EU one. Local Authorities can only pay a certain amount towards the care needs of adults due to the budgets for adult social services being slashed. Care agencies cannot pay staff more than the LA can pay for them.

Cam77 · 05/09/2019 22:29

I love how people are actually being honest about them benefiting from a wrecked economy! (I’m just relived at all that chaos we avoided with Ed Miliband!)

RippleEffects · 05/09/2019 22:29

I sell online using various marketplaces. Whilst inside the EU, expanding into Europe was easy. I started tentatively selling and things where starting to go okay. However, as Brexit has approached I've pulled out of mainland Europe awaiting things to stabilise. So much new technical stuff is being thrown into the mix German VAT certs, French double taxation. Its not worth the learning curve.

Until we have worked out WTF we are doing as a country, I can't move on with my business.

It's not about who voted what for me, it's about re-establishing some form of stability which we can build from. Our politicians are currently running us into the ground. I can cope with pain of staying or going but the business cost of delays, and extensions and potentially yet more extentions beggars belief.

On a positive, I do see potential for selling into marketplaces beyond Europe and hope that these markets will become easier to access as/ if we loosen ties with Europe.

Nameisthegame · 05/09/2019 22:30

I work as a English teacher in Eu it could go two ways either it becomes more complicated to get new teachers so being here already means that I can negotiate a higher wage or be more sought after....or ai might be chucked out of the country with nothing but the clothes on my back and a young kid. 🧐

Nameisthegame · 05/09/2019 22:31

I left after the result of Brexit, we actually left the uk because of it.

OneHamm3r · 05/09/2019 22:32

I want the best doctors treating me and I don’t care where they come from. Don’t want people who struggle to get into medical school, a British passport means zilch when you’re really ill. If student standards are better elsewhere then frankly that is s benefit of the EU not a negative.