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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Why are teachers fair game on MN?

112 replies

shithappens123 · 04/09/2019 16:13

Seriously the daily amount of goady teaching baiting posts are ridiculous.

I really want to know why are teachers such an easy target on here? AIBU to suggest that there is disproportionate attacks teachers like there is no other profession on MN?

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shithappens123 · 04/09/2019 23:05

Well we do have a teacher shortage give it a go!

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MouthyHarpy · 04/09/2019 23:30

I really want to know why are teachers such an easy target on here?

Envy and ignorance. I’d imagine that most of the people criticising teachers haven’t got a degree or further professional expertise between them.

shithappens123 · 05/09/2019 12:46

If they are bitter then there’s nothing stoping them going to college and train to be a teacher. Especially for English and maths

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Underhisi · 05/09/2019 14:13

Shouldn't you be at work now?

CassianAndor · 05/09/2019 14:22

I've read all your posts on this thread, OP, and I have to say, you're not coming across as the brightest spark. You appear to have no insight, no empathy, no understanding and aren't listening.

Biggobyboo · 05/09/2019 14:24

People spout off on Mumsnet and Daily Mail yet are as meek as mice in real life!

user1471590586 · 05/09/2019 14:35

I have no gripes about teacher holidays, salary, inset days etc. I know how hard teachers work. However my issues have been with the management of my childrens school, particularly in relation to sen. I have caught the SENCO lying to me three times now; I have had to resort to communicating by email as she has denied saying things to me. My sons class teacher (who was brilliant with my son) was even shocked what the SENCO had said. The SENCO has even denied my son is autistic despite a paediatrician and ed psych saying he is showing a lot of signs of it. The SENCO also argued that advice I had been given by SENDIASS was wrong, she wanted them to come into school so she could tell them they were. So yes, I will periodically moan about that particular teacher.

cranstonmanor · 05/09/2019 14:42

Some of my family are teachers. It's the bossy arrogant half, there's no point in discussing anything with them, they are always right and the rest of the world can't possibly have a point because they are teachers so they know better than everyone. Oh and the world should be thankful that they are willing to teach the little shits. They really can be heartless and awful.

I do realise that there must be lovely people out there who are teaching and who are probably just normal human beings and do have the best interest of the kids at heart, but I do think that a lot of threads are about people like my family members. Just because someone is a teacher doesn't automatically make them a good person.

Allington · 05/09/2019 15:19

I’d imagine that most of the people criticising teachers haven’t got a degree or further professional expertise between them.

Grin

Postgrad degree here. If a teacher with only a first degree criticises me it is obviously because of envy and ignorance.

Grin
CassianAndor · 05/09/2019 15:25

on the basis, presumably anyone without a medical degree can't criticise a doctor and anyone without a PPE degree can't criticise a politician?

Pamplemousecat · 05/09/2019 15:25

Hilarious to think people that criticise teachers are less qualified. I find it tends to be those with degrees , doctorates and professional qualifications that are more likely to pick fault with teachers.

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user1471590586 · 05/09/2019 15:51

"MouthyHarpy

I really want to know why are teachers such an easy target on here?

Envy and ignorance. I’d imagine that most of the people criticising teachers haven’t got a degree or further professional expertise between them."

Excuse me, I have a Masters degree and professional qualification, so no I'm not jealous. The subject of my first degree actually makes me more knowledgeable than the Senco at my childs school. However, I don't expect the SENCO to be an expert but do expect her to behave in a professional manner.

Pamplemousecat · 05/09/2019 16:09

Some teachers I know tend to talk to adults in the same way they do kids. It’s trying to make the switch between home and work. Mind you other professionals do the same!

SandyY2K · 05/09/2019 16:10

I’d imagine that most of the people criticising teachers haven’t got a degree or further professional expertise between them."

This comment makes you sound ignorant and uneducated.

Criticising one teacher, is not having a go at the the entire profession.

If I criticise one shop assistant, it doesn't mean I have an issue with every one of them. Why are teachers so defensive?

My profession is often criticised on here and IRL. I don't take it personally, despite the less than complimentary name we're called being human remains.

isittheholidaysyet · 05/09/2019 16:32

When my kid comes home and tells me something bad happened at school, which causes me to be furious, I have nowhere to take that for the next 15 and a half hours.

So I might (I can't remember ever doing so) come on to mumsnet and 'kick off' in here. Get my anger out. Explore my reasoning. Get some other perspectives. See what teachers think and be totally unreasonable.

That way when I go into school the next day, I can be calm, reasonable, polite. I can casually ask if it really happened that way. I will know what I can expect to be done and what outcomes I want.

Surely that is one of the reasons mumsnet exists. So that people like me have somewhere to explore their rage and possible unreasonableness.
I'm sure the teachers on here would rather I kicked off on here than had a night of no sleep, with what ifs going around my head, before I head to school with my anger greatly increased?

My parents, all their friends and loads of my friends are teachers. I try to be a helpful parent to the school. I don't want to cause trouble for the school or make their job harder.
But it is my primary job to raise my children. To protect them from harm and neglect. To ensure they get an education suitable to their age, ability and needs.

Most teachers and I (even my best mate) disagree on the best way to do this.

School isn't childcare. But you have a duty to care for my child whilst they are in school. If you can't do this, then we have a problem.

Parents are expected to drop their 4 year old infants off at school with random adults who they have possibly never met before, but if we question anything that happens we are teacher-bashing, apparently.

shithappens123 · 05/09/2019 16:40

Nine times out of ten “your kid” is lying to you about why they got into trouble at school.

Of course your child is always completely not to blame. If kicking off at people who are trying to give your children the best education that they can then you will be the parent that gets sniggered at. So go ahead.

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NameChangeNugget · 05/09/2019 16:44

This is Mumsnet, a high percentage of users are Mums and are in lots of contact with teachers.

More people on a DIY forum will be talking about grouting and not teachers.

isittheholidaysyet · 05/09/2019 16:50

In my experience most of the things I want to 'kick off' about come home in letters to the whole school, and are general, not about my children in particular. So I know it's true, because the school have put it in writing.

Other times it is nothing to do with my kid. Sometimes i see it happening when I am school helping out. Obviously I say nothing, because it's nothing to do with me. Still have the rage though.

Teachers and schools seem to have a very weird view of the world.

Saddler · 05/09/2019 16:54

Obviously you're a teacher and back at school now so have a lot of time on your hands to be offended

shithappens123 · 05/09/2019 17:03

Clearly it’s those who have too much time or basically no life.

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shithappens123 · 05/09/2019 17:04

Guess they need something to do now Jeremy Kyle is no longer on tv.

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CassianAndor · 05/09/2019 17:06

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Biggobyboo · 05/09/2019 17:17

Anybody who “feels the rage” and wants to “kick off” regarding something their child said about school, has anger management issues.

shithappens123 · 05/09/2019 17:22

No I won’t shut up and let the daily online abuse of teachers continue without commenting.

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