What does Brexit mean to you?

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Posting here rather than on the brexit topic to hopefully get a wider range of answers.

How do you see the future of the UK once it leaves the EU?

What will change? What will stay the same? What will be the biggest change for the country? Your community? Your family? Your friends? Your job? Or anything else that will be affected.

I'm not looking into a leave v remain debate, just perceived changes. Good or bad.

A year? You think we'll have sorted out all of the legislation and re-negotiated all of our international trade deals within a year?

That is, if I may say so, utterly delusional.

Community, job, family...no change. Law..some changes but not for years. Different foods in the shops, coming from different countries, not just the same old stuff from Europe.

Those who are blithely twittering on about 'oh it'll be fine in the long run'. Unless you are planning to live forever, you do realise (unless there are children posting here) we will be most likely dead by the time things get a bit better? I mean, I'll be 90 in 50 years time. Hell of a long time to spend living in these circumstances.

@ColourMeExhausted

What with climate change and all that jazz, I think Brexit fall-out will be the least of our worries in 50 years.

You know, what's worrying is how few of the 'it'll be FINE!/just get on with it/let's insult the remoaner/snowflakes' brigade there now are on these threads. I feel they have dwindled, to just 3 dissenting voices (one of which I'd strongly suspect of being a bot). That is terrifying. I suspect the majority of leave voters have deserted this argument, like rats from a sinking ship. Because what can they actually say??

Indeed Twaddle. If I get to 90 it will be a miracle! Even 60 ain't looking too likely...

SomeUK bands and musicians are rethinking European tours.

www.rawmusictv.com/article/amp/2019/UK-bands-now-have-to-pay-import-duty-and-VAT-on-ALL-merchandise-before-even-entering-Europe-to-tour?fbclid=IwAR3tU1NLZfmDLxzhmefHXOUu99PeVPAM7PQUSjLB-B2-fLFk6h1y1WAzVMo

Roaming charges are bound to come back for using mobiles in Europe.

Short term: food and drug shortages. Unrest in Northern Ireland.

Medium term: Scottish independence. Irish reunification. The end of the NHS as we know it. The state education system fucked. World class universities reduced to shadows of their former selves.

Long term: we (England and Wales - what will we call this?) seek readmission to the EU. Obviously this will be without any of the sweetheart deals Thatcher negotiated (rebates, vetoes). Embarrassingly, the EU insists on democratic reform as a precondition of our rejoining. This is understandable as various EU members, not least Ireland and Scotland, are keen to avoid any repeat of the whole Brexit fiasco.

Because what can they actually say??

Well they're talking about bonking Boris on another thread...

It's clear the actual reality of Brexit is rather boring in comparison.

"Different foods in the shops not just the same old stuff from europe". What on earth? We buy foods from all over the world via trade agreements those countries agreed with the EU, what effect do you think exiting those arrangements will have on sourcing those foods? - It will make it more expensive (WTO) at best and likely more difficult hence less choice nor more.

DH and I both work in higher ed. A sector which will be decimated by a no deal Brexit. And in a discipline that gets more than a third of its funding from EU sources. So what it means to me is that my career is most likely fucked and I'm just hoping that both of us will have a job in a few years time.

My dad was recently diagnosed with cancer. So who knows what impact possible medicine shortages will hold for him.

And Brexit also apparently means that the government has millions to burn on no deal prep and stupid propaganda projects, while in our area I can't find a health visitor session for love nor money because they've been cut so much, while the schools can barely afford basic equipment.

For myself and my children I can't see a good future here for the next decade. But I don't feel I can emigrate and leave my aging parents here, especially the way things are going.

I think the NHS will be gone,". Tax revenue will decline significantly while we can't trade services so austerity will resume on steroids.

I think we'll crash out, BJ will win an election because we've really really left, and then there will be riots when people start to realise that they can't get medication, or it's now an 8 week wait to see the GP because European drs gave left and no one else wants to come here, and food becomes much more expensive. But this is what people voted for, and they clearly need to experience it.

Saw that thread @WaterSheep! I'm so glad to know people are having fun with it. Because it's such a hilarious laugh till you cry situation...or, just cry.

Ok. First poster who can offer me 5 good, solid and evidence backed reasons as to why leaving with No Deal will be fine gets an in on my Brexit stockpile (currently just a few tons of rice pudding and some loo roll, so don't excite yourself). Seriously. I am listening. I don't think it's an unreasonable request? I'll take 3 if that's easier...

Tins not tons - I'm not that fond of rice pudding

WaterSheep - Anthony Bamford, Jim Ratcliffe, Helena Morrissey and James Dyson to name a few :)

Our economy will be fucked, It will affect the poorest more than it will affect the richest.

Everyone will be blaming everyone else for the problem they SHOULD be blaming the arses of politicians who have led us into this The remainers will be blaming the leavers for their choice, the leavers will be blaming the remainers for dragging their feet and getting us into a no-deal situation. We will ALL be in the shit.

The Irish border will be a tinder-box.

Scottish independence will be re-invigorated. And the 'hard' border will be on mainland Britain (and maybe eventually another hard border with Wales)

The racist country of England-shire will continue to think it is all powerful, and important.

Umm, User...didn't James Dyson hit the headlines for moving part of his business to Singapore? Or are we talking about another James Dyson?

I see it as a catastrophe and struggle to see how anyone sees it otherwise.

A chairman of JCB
The CEO of the Ineos chemicals group
A chairman of LGIM
Founder and CEO of Dyson

I asked for people who didn't have a vested interest, with the potential to make a load of money from this mess.

Have you read 'The Long Walk' by Richard Bachman (Stephen King)? It's going to be like that.

The UK will become the satanic elite's playground/hunting ground.

I'm not joking.

Recession, more expensive food and consumer goods, more difficult travel abroad, greater unemployment. Just an overall drop in standards of living. We’ll be begging to go back in within 10 years.

The racism pointing at brexiteers is tiring and very untrue

The return of roaming charges is definitely not a good enough reason to be a remainer