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To think using a milkman is good for the environment

142 replies

Meadowland · 27/08/2019 18:27

Just that really. Using returnable glass bottles instead of plastic.
Mine also delivers lots of organic stuff.
I know it works out more expensive, but there are usually plenty of things on offer, and I get so much from mine so save on fuel.

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Chesntoots · 27/08/2019 22:15

I would use one, however, I drink oat milk, I am out of the house before 6 which is before he gets to my road, and it would be nicked / undrinkable by the time I get home at about 9!

Agree more milk (cow or otherwise) should be in glass bottles.

Malbecfan · 27/08/2019 22:15

We have it delivered 3 times per week in glass bottles and also get orange juice too. We've used the service for 19 years. Because we're in a rural area, it's a diesel vehicle rather than electric. However, one milkman in one vehicle delivers to around 150 properties each day, so that's a lot fewer journeys to shops that his customers need to make.

I don't always do a weekly shop, so that wouldn't work for me. It wouldn't last long enough before it went off. He's brilliant in snow and ice too.

As far as stopping the birds, we have a hollow wooden box next to the back door. The milkman leaves the bottles under it and they stay cool and protected. We leave the empties by the side of it so we can see if he's been to collect them.

Morgan12 · 27/08/2019 22:21

I'd use a milkman if the milk wasn't double the price. Actually it's more than double.

Finfintytint · 27/08/2019 22:28

Milk bottles are recycled but don’t have a long recycling life. The energy and water used to recycle them is not cost effective which is why you pay more.

Meadowland · 27/08/2019 22:50

A glass milk bottle is re used between 15 and 50 times before being recycled.
In my opinion it also tastes much nicer, as it is usually fresher, and doesn't have that plasticky taste.

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JustMe81 · 27/08/2019 22:56

I looked in to this but can only get deliveries twice a week. My toddler drinks so much milk I couldn’t store enough between deliveries so would end up having to go and buy more anyway. I’m hoping the service gets more popular so we can add an extra delivery.

highheelsandbobblehats · 27/08/2019 23:03

We use Milk & More. They deliver to us in glass bottles.

LaBelleSauvage · 27/08/2019 23:04

We love ours OP! And we make many less trips to the supermarket as a result so don't end up with as many impulse purchases.

For those saying the fuel consumption is the same:

It's much less fuel for one van to deliver to 50 houses, than for 50 cars to drive to one supermarket...

Finfintytint · 27/08/2019 23:08

It’s great that less plastic is used but recycling glass has a huge environmental impact that people don’t realise.

MariaMakiling · 27/08/2019 23:21

Using milk and supporting the dairy industry isn't so good for the environment.

"...overall, production of most plant-based dairy alternatives is seen to be better for the environment as compared with cow’s milk."

"It is estimated that moving from current dietary patterns to plant-based diets on a global scale would drastically improve the environmental impact of food production by:

  • Reducing land use by 76% (including 19% reduced land use for crop growth, as additional crops are needed to feed cattle)
  • Reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 49%
  • Reducing damage to water supply – with a 50% reduction in acidification, and a 49% reduction in eutrophication."

"...producing soya milk is significantly less damaging in terms of: greenhouse gas emissions, land use and water supply. However, producing almond milk uses roughly 17 times more water than cow’s milk per litre, but cow’s milk emits nearly 10 times more greenhouse gases per litre. A Swedish study also found that greenhouse gas emissions were 16 – 41% lower when cow’s milk production was substituted for oat milk production. However, oat milk production was seen to cause more environmental acidification (where chemicals decrease the pH of the sea or soil) as compared with cow’s milk."

thefoodmedic.co.uk/2018/10/is-dairy-bad-for-the-environment/

To think using a milkman is good for the environment
AnybodyWantAChip · 28/08/2019 00:00

21 years with our Milkman ( butt never met him). I'm not very organised so having milk delivered is great. Reading theses posts had made me wonder what else we could order from him.

Meadowland · 28/08/2019 07:42

@Anybody. The range is huge at Milkandmore.
I ve just ordered garden bark chippings !

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MirrorrorriM · 28/08/2019 07:44

Milksndmore was the company I used. Check out their Google reviews before subscribing.

Their TrustPilot reviews are not to be trusted as (and this happened to me) they remove any negative reviews if you don't engage with them about it. I posted mine, and having spent hours of my time and a lot of money not getting any milk I refused to respond to their request for more info as I really didn't see why I should waste any more of my time on them. As a result they had my review deleted. This means that they must be using this tactic a lot because there are far more positive reviews on TrustPilot than Google.

Avoid Milkandmore.com and try and find someone else who does glass bottled milk.

BrokenWing · 28/08/2019 08:09

We tried a couple of milkmen, but none delivered in glass bottles, only plastic, and one we discovered was delivering at 11pm at night! So on warm days milk had been sitting out all night before we got it in the morning and went off quickly. It would be better if the supermarkets started using glass bottles.

endoflevelbaddy · 28/08/2019 08:16

I've just had to cancel mine as the milk was going off so quickly. Discovered they are actually delivering the night before (but late enough that I'm in bed already) so in the current heat it's not coping well.

Now need to find a a better supplier.

Clockworkprincess · 28/08/2019 08:20

We have a milkman but its only delivered in plastic bottles. Earliest delivery we had was half twelve at night which was a bit mental. To be fair we are ordering from him to support smaller business and for sheer convenience. Would prob be cheaper from supermarket but all the faffing of walking over to pick up and risking not having milk for breakfast

HearMeSnore · 28/08/2019 08:21

Oh - and for those concerned about dairy products being bad for the environment, milkmen deliver Soya milk and other alternatives too (although sadly not in reusable glass bottles).

nettie434 · 28/08/2019 08:46

I like my milkman too. I have organic milk and the price difference with the supermarket is much smaller (9.5 per 100 ml versus 8.4p). He delivers about 4am.

On the website they have a picture of a very handsome young man holding milk bottles. I did see the milkman one day (night!) and the picture was not accurate.

Meadowland · 28/08/2019 09:10

@nettie434. That's hilarious.
I haven't seen mine so I can still keep my fantasy going !!

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isabellerossignol · 28/08/2019 09:15

Did he look like this? Grin

To think using a milkman is good for the environment
nettie434 · 28/08/2019 09:19

The resemblance is uncanny isabellerossignol Grin

Maybe your one is different Meadowland?

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 28/08/2019 09:28

It's not worth it for us as only DH drinks milk. I have almond milk and the milkman will only deliver the long life version and I'm not drinking that crap. We do buy DH's milk from the corner shop so I feel we are doing our bit to help them (we buy a lot of other things as well, not the odd pint!).

WeaselsRising · 28/08/2019 09:36

We used to have milk delivered about 20 years ago. Even then it was dearer than supermarket milk.

We stopped when it kept being stolen off the doorstep and the dairy accused us of stealing it ourselves Shock.

It was actually builders on their way to work, as the police caught them. They would drive through our estate and just nab the milk off every doorstep as they passed.

Daffodil2018 · 28/08/2019 09:40

We use a milkman through Milk & More and I'm really happy with them. It makes such a difference not having to remember to order milk and eggs each week. We've always got some in the fridge.

42andcounting · 28/08/2019 09:41

Our corner shop does milk in glass bottles at 55p a pint - I thought this was expensive til I read this thread! Bottles and foil tops go back to the dairy for reuse / recycling. They also sell juice in glass bottles, local eggs in cardboard, and loose veg which is pretty reasonable and really tasty (yes, as a PP said, it's like the 1970's!). I think we're very lucky after reading this....