Petrified of people’s lack of care to our climate

[delusionalnights]

I just wish more people would cut flying down, go vegan/vegetarian or at least cut down meat, consume and waste less, have less children etc.

I hardly ever fly despite being able to afford long distance holidays because I’m terrified of climate change. We’re in a climate crisis and it’s not getting better. We now have less than 18 months before it’s irreversible, irrelevant of the carbon emissions we cut back after those 18 months have gone as it will have reached a tipping point.

People will lose their homes. There will be mass migration. The fucking Amazon is on fire. Please everyone, do your part and I know big cooperations and companies have a much larger part to play but the change starts with average people, it’s supply and demand, we demand less products, they supply less, hence emissions lowering.

Please everyone do your bit.

The rest of the world pretty much needs to up its game as they’re causing more damage. And idiotic extinction rebellion is pointless and just pisses people off.

In the developed west, I suspect that we use such a disproportionate share of our dwindling resources each, that even the most eco friendly person would be way over that personal allowance

The WWF has a carbon calculator. I was over last time I did it but I haven’t flown this year so I came in under. And I am very far from perfect, eg I have a car, eat meat sometimes etc. I expect a lot of people are under and a lot of people are way over.

adaline

I very much agree that it is those who are better off that need to be the ones to improve. If you’re struggling to make ends meet, you buy the food you can afford to make sure your family is fed, you don’t have the luxury of worrying about food miles etc

But in terms of it being hard to cut down, on some things yes, but a lot of us could buy fewer clothes, for example

I think it's worth separating what's going on from our feelings about what's going on. I understand the fear, but it isn't constructive. To think we as individuals can impact what is going on is self-defeating, imo. That doesn't mean we don't do what we can, but I think considered action is more effective (if only for our mental health) than lashing out at what others are doing wrong.

If you’re struggling to make ends meet, you buy the food you can afford to make sure your family is fed, you don’t have the luxury of worrying about food miles etc

Exactly, but so many threads on here are oblivious of that. If you live in a city and have the luxury of using public transport, for example, it's very easy to tell everyone else to do the same - but they can't necessarily make the same changes you can.

Rural living can be very restrictive in terms of changes you can make to your lifestyle - if there's no public transport and the only shops you can get to after work are big out-of-town supermarkets, you have very little choice in where you shop (and therefore what you buy) and how you get there.

I think the only way we're going to achieve balance is by having our behaviours changed, rather than changing our behaviours: humanity has been nothing if not predictable in a criss over the millennia.

And that happens when circumstances force us to adapt ... So, ironically, we might need to go through an extinction event in order to achieve what we are trying and failing to do now. It is our arrogance that makes us believe a) that we have any control over this, or b) that we have a right to survive it.

I know. Not popular.

*crisis

Thanks for that Quaffy Gave me a better understanding of how im helping the planet but it's all fake news apparently so doesn't really matter....

I just looked my carbon footprint and (predictably) it was my travel that let me down. But it's not surprising - I live in a small rural town with no public transport. There are two buses a week and no trains that go anywhere near where I need to go, when I need to get there).

I'm sure plenty of people in rural communities are in the same boat. If the government want those people to change their lifestyles and drive less, they need to change the infrastructure so that there's public transport available for them to use in the first place.

Im lucky in that i live in a large city and i can walk and cycle everywhere i need to i also don't need to use trains and i don't even have a passport let alone travel abroad. I think mine is actually lower than that as it Didn't have an option for if you actually use your heating system which i don't i just use blankets and layer up in winter the central heating hasn't even been turned on at the boiler since i moved here 5yrs ago which my gas engineer found strange to say the least 😂