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To think this is psychological and ask for advice.

44 replies

picklejimmy · 19/08/2019 16:21

I have a problem with food. I am very overweight and have no self control. I'm so angry at myself for not being able to stop.
I eat all the time. Even when I'm not hungry.
I put on loads of weight with my pregnancy (9 years ago!) and then lost it all with slimming world and stopped/doing it for various reasons. I am now heavier than Ive ever been.
I think it's a psychological thing. I was basically starved as a child and I have very vidid memories of being so hungry I was dizzy. Sorry if that's an over share but I think that's where it stems from. I diet and do well for a week or so and then I slip back into how I was before.
I need advice on how to stop being like this. I feel disgusting. Is there any things I can do to stop myself.
I feel so stupid posting this but I'm not really sure what to do.

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Bobbiepin · 19/08/2019 16:27

Counselling will help. Look for a counsellor with experience of child abuse and eating disorders. I would guess that the two are very much linked, you'll find it hard to deal with the eating disorder without dealing with the earlier trauma.

picklejimmy · 19/08/2019 16:29

I feel like I should be past it because I'm well into my 30s.
It makes me so upset, I don't even want the food when I'm eating it.
I will look for a therapist in my area. I just thought it would be a silly thing to go to then with.

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picklejimmy · 19/08/2019 16:29

Not meaning that your suggestion was silly BTW! I just always feel stupid talking about this :/

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Artura · 19/08/2019 16:31

Overeaters anonymous are a great organisation and may have support local to you.

KurriKurri · 19/08/2019 16:31

Would something like some kind of therapy or counselling help you - so you could work through your issues with food. I should imagine being left hungry as a child has had a huge impact on you and will definitely underpin your behaviour around food - and it may be something you can't deal with without help.

My DDad was a prisoner of war and they were starved - for the rest of his life he was unable to allow any food to go to waste - he would eat every kind of left over nothing was ever thrown away. Starvation has a huge psychological impact.

You are doing well to acknowledge you are struggling, it takes a lot of courage to say 'I need help, I can't manage this on my own' and it might be worth talking to your GP and finding what would be the best way of you getting the help you need and want.

Flowers
picklejimmy · 19/08/2019 16:31

Thank you! I will look for that too.

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finnmcool · 19/08/2019 16:33

Things that happen in childhood do carry through to adulthood. I agree with the pp about counselling, you need to get to the root of the issue and work it through.
Don't be hard on yourself regarding being 'over it' by now.

picklejimmy · 19/08/2019 16:33

kurrikurri
That must have been so traumatic for him :(
I'm kind of the same, I will finish anything that's in front of me, even if I'm nearly sick. I feel disgusting just writing that.

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Herocomplex · 19/08/2019 16:35

It’s not silly. It’s dominating your life and you’re feeling shame. I’m sorry that you suffered when you were a child, you did not deserve that.
I think a councillor would be able to help you more than you realise.
Look at the BACP website for someone in your area. I wish you the best of luck, you’re already on your way! 💐

dollydaydream114 · 19/08/2019 16:35

I think it definitely is psychological - you're eating for comfort and to quell anxiety, from the sound of it. Your problem is certainly not uncommon, even among people who had perfectly OK childhoods, but I'm sure your memories of not having enough to eat as a child must be a factor in your case. I'm really sorry you had to go through that.

I think counselling, ideally from someone who specialises in disordered eating, would certainly help.

One other thing I would say is that I found it a lot easier to eat in a more mindful and proportionate way when I started exercising properly. I started to connect both food and exercise with feeling physically better rather than with looking better, and strangely (despite the fact that my appearance does clearly matter to me!) that just seemed to help things 'click' in my head.

Herocomplex · 19/08/2019 16:38

Oh and food is so difficult to control if you’re struggling with your feelings. Alcohol, drugs and smoking are challenging but you can’t ‘stop’ eating! You can re-set your relationship with it though, and the way you nurture yourself.

chickenyhead · 19/08/2019 16:39

I compulsively eat when stressed. I think I would be considered bulimic, except I have a phobia about being sick.

I know that I am not hungry but shovel it in to swallow my feelings.

It is an avoidance thing for me. If I can make myself feel vile, I wont get sexually abused again.

Hasn't really worked out for me though as rape is about control, not sex. I just feel so uncomfortable with my sexuality, I'd rather not have it at all. It is easier to put up with the nasty public shaming.

Did explore it in psychotherapy though it isn't an easy fix.

It is soul destroying and I feel for you. Sending hugs xxx

dollydaydream114 · 19/08/2019 16:40

Oh, and also - be kinder to yourself. It doesn't matter that you're in your 30s - things that happen to us as children really stay with us (I had major, major anxieties around exercise that stemmed from being at school - and I'm 43!) and it's certainly not a silly thing to talk to a therapist about.

If you had a physical thing that was bothering you, you'd get help for that. You have a psychological issue that's bothering you and it's absolutely fine and sensible to get help for that too. You sound lovely and help in sorting your issues is something you not only need but deserve - it's not something silly or frivolous.

thecatsthecats · 19/08/2019 16:40

I struggled with justifying the cost of a personal trainer at first, but I have found the approx. £1200/year spent on a weekly session invaluable.

I have lost 69lbs over 18m, which I know others have done much faster by dieting alone, but I have steadily come to realise that what I am doing is far, FAR better than any fad diet. I have been losing weight and re acclimatising myself to a healthy, consistent lifestyle.

There's no way to fake this, or shortcut it. You need time to acquaint yourself with what makes you feel good, and to learn how to change your lifestyle for the better, so that living healthily is as natural as breathing.

It helps - in fact, it's essential - that my personal trainer is a lovely, kind, supportive man. He'll give me hell on the routine, but will always be encouraging, and never lets me beat myself up. He's cheap, actually, as PT and counsellor rolled into one!

picklejimmy · 19/08/2019 16:41

Thank you all for being so nice. Everytime I broach the subject with people I know I get 'just eat less' 'try dieting' you're all right I need to address my relationship with food first.
I didn't even know over eaters annonmous was a thing so I'm definitely going to look into that. And also therapy.
Thank you all so much.

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picklejimmy · 19/08/2019 16:45

chickenyhead I'm so sorry that happened to you. I was abused as a child in many different ways including the same as you. Ive always said to others that I don't let my past define me but clearly that's not the case. I thought that I could just move past it and forget it but subconsciously I don't think I've done that very well.

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Flower64 · 19/08/2019 16:55

I have total sympathy for you. Everyone is always telling me I overstock in terms of food and they are right. I was raised in a poor home where all that was in the fridge on Sunday night was a polar bear full of bi-carb (anyone else remember them?!) My kids have never gone hungry like I did but I have a bad emotional relationship with food that means I eat under stress and anxiety, My recent divorce has aided and abetted a 4 stone weight gain in 13 months which I am now starting to lose through a combination of slimming world, exercise and counselling. There are lots of people out there who can help just don't be embarrassed about asking for it x

CSIblonde · 19/08/2019 16:58

It's definitely psychological. Being starved is going to massively affect how you view food. It can make you see food as comfort & a mood booster, not just fuel. I know someone similar & she'll binge for 2days then starve for a week. She had to steal food if she needed to eat as a child as the house never had food in it . She was locked into a binge, starve cycle that was set in childhood. I think counselling would help you massively, as it has done for her.

cantfindname · 19/08/2019 17:09

Yes! I wasn't starved in it's literal sense but I was definitely kept very short of food and meals were regarded as a 'treat' It's hard to sit at a table with two slices of bread and a scrape of marge when your brother is demolishing meat and 2 veg with great relish + pudding.

It has carried over and I am in the same boat, if I want a 'treat' I don't get my hair done or my nails, or go out. Instead I eat because I was conditioned to believe that was a treat.

Very tough to get out of this mindset and I have never succeeded. Wishing you the very best of luck OP.

picklejimmy · 19/08/2019 17:10

I've put on 4 stone in a year and it's just getting worse and worse. It has been a hugely stressful year too which hasn't helped.
I'm going to go to the walk in tomorrow morning.

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dollydaydream114 · 19/08/2019 17:10

@thecatsthecats I've also been working out with a personal trainer too and he's really helped me. He's been brilliant with advising me on diet as well as fitness - I actually thought I'd never lose weight with the amount he said I could eat but he turned out to be totally right. He's also really helped me to see fat loss, rather than just weight loss, as my goal and he's helped me see it terms of feeling better and fitter rather than just looking better.

I do think that if people can stretch to the cost (which, let's face it, is a lot - I've had to give up other stuff to pay for it) it's totally worth it when you find the right trainer for you. I know some people like the shouty drill sergeant type of trainer but I prefer the kind and supportive type!

picklejimmy · 19/08/2019 17:12

it has carried over and I am in the same boat, if I want a 'treat' I don't get my hair done or my nails, or go out. Instead I eat because I was conditioned to believe that was a treat

This is exactly it!! I won't buy new clothes, because I'm too fat and it makes me. Sad, or get a hair cut because what's the point ill look gross anyway. But I'll buy food.

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Confusedbeetle · 19/08/2019 17:13

Actually although there may well be psychological damage making you over eat, there well be physiological reasons. There is evidence that people who have been starved have very real changes in your body. Find expert advice for help, both psychological and physiological. I thing you need both

AliceAbsolum · 19/08/2019 17:35

Therapy is great, you should try it, at the end of the day being very overweight is dangerous and health is so important! People go to therapy for a million different reasons, neglect is definitely one of them.

Just make sure that you go through the BACP or UKCP. Or Google iapt and get it for free!

CurlyhairedAssassin · 19/08/2019 17:37

These things get buried deep within the brain, OP, none of it is your fault. You’re not weak. You just need to find a way of unpicking your past and the way your brain is wired to eat what you can when you can.

I work with teenagers, some of whom have had very sad lives as babies and toddlers in terms of extreme neglect. Nearly all of them have been left with deeply entrenched behaviours that to anyone who doesn’t know their background, would find hard to understand.

I recall one boy who was basically left at home without food as a very young child and he had to root through bins for any scraps of something edible. It showed in how he approached food years later as an older boy, even though by that time he was very well looked after in a stable foster family. As an example, say he ate a piece of shortbread, you know with sugar on it? You know how some of the sugar comes off and goes on the plate/container? Well, after finishing the biscuit, he would repeatedly lick his fingers for at least 20 mins later so that every last grain of sugar stuck to his fingers so that he could lick it off. Seriously there would be not one grain left in the container by the time he had finished. And, you know how when you peel a banana, sometimes the “string” separates from the banana? I have never known anyone to eat the separate stringy bit as the texture is a bit odd on its own and most find it unpleasant. But he would detach the rest of the “string” and eat that first on its own before eating the rest of the banana. He also would ALWAYS comment on what you were eating even if he had already eaten his lunch. Like a salivating puppy! Eg “That looks nice! That looks SO delicious!”

When we first knew him we would feel guilty and offer him a bit but then his foster family explained that he did have issues around food and they had to hide food from him Sad as otherwise he would compulsively eat it. They explained that as a result of his earlier neglect, his brain was wired not to know where the next meal was coming from and so he would grab the chance to eat something, however unpalatable, whenever he could. And not to waste a scrap.

He was not overweight then as they carefully monitored his eating habits and he did seem to get a bit better with asking staff at school for things/hinting that he would like some. I just hope that now he is an adult and looking after his own food intake that he has learned to regulate his food intake according to hunger and not out of terror that one day he may not have enough again. Sad

You, OP, clearly see the reason behind your eating habits, so I think you’re in a much better position to explore your own reasoning with a professional who can help you to get into good habits which override the inner voice.

Best of luck! Smile

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