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For getting Botox in my 20’s?

114 replies

Sweetdisposition91 · 15/08/2019 08:39

I’m 28 next month and have the most horrific frown lines and laughter lines already. I have a very expressive face and I’m really sensitive to sunlight and frown even if it’s cloudy out!

I know I should be wearing sunglasses more often and I’ve started wearing factor 50 on my face year round, but what other preventative measures can I do?!

I’m posting a pic of my frown lines 18 months ago to now... I’ve aged so much!!

I don’t smoke, haven’t got children and don’t have a very stressful life!

I had Botox the other day just waiting for it to fully kick in but my frown line is still there so I think I’ll need a top up.

How many of you have Botox and how old were you when you started?

For getting Botox in my 20’s?
For getting Botox in my 20’s?
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PixieLumos · 15/08/2019 12:39

Unless you are a very easily displeased person who frowns all day long, I don’t think it’s necessary.

QuiteForgetful · 15/08/2019 12:45

Could you take a pic with your face relaxed? Be much easier to see your issue. Also, I am sensitive to light and always wear them outside. I recomend that you always wear sunglasses, if you are sensitive to light.

Whosorrynow · 15/08/2019 12:52

Personally I would wait until you have lines/creases which are prominent when your face is relaxed, for most people this starts to happen from mid to late 40s.
I can't see that having Botox before this is harmful, instead I would view it as an unnecessary expense but ultimately it's your call

Skyejuly · 15/08/2019 13:00

I live by the motto that growing older...wrinkles and greys are a privilege not a right!

TheHodgeoftheHedge · 15/08/2019 13:05

Hahahahahaah LaVieilleHarpie I was wondering if he was called Barry too!

EatenByDinosaurs · 15/08/2019 13:11

No, retin-A is a preventative, it's the only thing proven over decades to actually work vs facial aging.

If you're concerned about aging get yourself some preacriotion strength retin-A, apply it routinely and reap the long term rewards of flawless skin.

While you're at it, always, always apply sunsreen, wear sunglasses whenever outside and make sure your diet, lifestyle and water intake are great. You're just self-sabotaging otherwise.

Like others say, you're frowning in the picture, of course there will be lines, you wouldn't be able to move your face otherwise Confused

Whosorrynow · 15/08/2019 13:20

If wrinkles and grey hair makes you feel privileged then crack on, personally I feel very privileged to live in a time when I can be older and not have wrinkles and grey hair, I think I look much more attractive without them.

BarberaofSeville · 15/08/2019 13:20

People who have Botox always say 'oh no-one knows, I just go for the natural look' and 'people are so surprised when I tell them'. I work with several people who have obviously had Botox, but if they told me, I'd feign surprise out of politeness. I prefer wrinkles tbh.

LaVieilleHarpie · 15/08/2019 13:41

@Whosorrynow high five :D

ElizaPancakes · 15/08/2019 13:44

I’m not going to vote until you post a picture of your face at rest. Everyone has those lines when they are literally frowning.

Whosorrynow · 15/08/2019 13:50

It's not hard to spot people who have had botox, generally they're the ones with fewer lines and creases around the eyes and forehead compared to others of the same age

Sweetdisposition91 · 15/08/2019 13:59

I can’t find any close up photos of my face and I can’t do a frowning photo now because the Botox is starting to work but I’ll attach a photo anyway even though where it’s at a distance you can’t see any lines!

My eye lines weren’t helped by my skin being dry and dehydrated either!

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LaVieilleHarpie · 15/08/2019 14:06

OMG you're well gorgeous. What's that TAN?! Please tell me it can be achieved from a bottle?!

089ville · 15/08/2019 14:10

If it makes you feel good go for it Hun!

QualCheckBot · 15/08/2019 14:11

BerberaeoofSeville People who have Botox always say 'oh no-one knows, I just go for the natural look' and 'people are so surprised when I tell them'. I work with several people who have obviously had Botox, but if they told me, I'd feign surprise out of politeness. I prefer wrinkles tbh.

I generally find that people who like to criticise other peoples' appearance, unless they are particularly renowned beauties themselves, tend not to be worth taking advice on beauty from, as they tend to over-estimate their own level of attractiveness.

LiveInAHidingPlace · 15/08/2019 14:16

Lol as if you can't tell when people have had.

People can always tell, they're just pretending out of politeness.

There are so many things we can spend our time doing, I'm sad so much of it is wasted on worrying about our looks. I became immeasurably happier when I just stopped caring about it.

Aprillygirl · 15/08/2019 14:24

When you frown you get frown lines, when you smile your lips curve upwards, sad they curve downwards. These are called expressions and make humans stand out from most other animals. If you'd prefer to mask your emotions get your botox, but unfortunately with people like you it doesn't usually stop there.

messolini9 · 15/08/2019 14:44

You're half my age, OP, & I haven't had it.
Should I live to be 90, I won't be having it.

What is it with women buying into this myth that signs of experience, of having lived, of feeling emotions, are unattractive? Way to sign up to the patriarchal hegemony, sister. These myths are fed by a male-dominated 'beauty' industry which is laughing all the way to the bank as it exploits feminine insecurity & shoves women firmly back into the box labelled: "you are only ever as good as you look, & here is an unfeasible & unattainable picture of how good OUGHT to look."

Men who also buy into this myth aren't interested in real women. They are interested in a conformist status symbol. They view women as a commodity with rigid & artificial parameters of acceptability, with a very short shelf life.

Why not save the botox money, spend it on something that makes you actually feel happy, & enjoy how feckin' fabulous it is to be 28?
A happy, self-fulfilled & self-accepting woman is far more likely to attract similar people to her. Including genuine men, who are interested in her character - witness the chap who posted above:

Confidence and happiness are where atttactive is at. Seeking out cosmetic treatments in your 20s, when you should simply be enjoying life...and being so concerned with your appearance that you actually take photos of your frown lines 18 months apart to monitor your ageing...well, that's definitely not where it's at.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 15/08/2019 14:49

QualCheckBot noticing that someone has had Botox is not being critical of how someone looks

And if the subject is discussing Botox/fillers etc and people are making comments it’s always obvious isn’t a criticism it’s what they see - it changes the way face muscles move

Are we meant to be untruthful.

As for milking your looks don’t worry can still do it as you are older if you do desire to

EatenByDinosaurs · 15/08/2019 14:51

You can always tell, as others say its polite to pretend you're surprised though. I don't really see why there's a problem with people being able to tell, people can tell I dye my hair and wear makeup and I don't see why another cosmetic thing needs to be some big secret. If that's what you want to do, your body your choice Smile.

Yes, as Aprillygirl says, there are issue withbotox masking or distorting the way your face shows emotions.

There are ongoing studies into the effects that botox has on hampering the ability to "face mirror". These are the subconscious micro expressions and movements which you make to show empathy, honesty, trust and a connection to others. A more subtle version of mirroring body language when you like someone.

Someone with hampered face mirroring is at a disadvantage when it comes to forming new social relationships as others can perceive that there's something "off" or not quite right about your behavior as you aren't able to face mirror, or it's been distorted so you aren't able to form the correct movements.

Its early here, and I haven't had coffee yet so please forgive any typos etc.

At any rate, not so good in job interviews, but perhaps an advantage if you want to commit heinous crimes and throw the police body language experts off the scent. Or want a career as a poker player.

colourlessgreenidea · 15/08/2019 15:00

What is it with women buying into this myth that signs of experience, of having lived, of feeling emotions, are unattractive? Way to sign up to the patriarchal hegemony, sister. These myths are fed by a male-dominated 'beauty' industry which is laughing all the way to the bank as it exploits feminine insecurity & shoves women firmly back into the box labelled: "you are only ever as good as you look, & here is an unfeasible & unattainable picture of how good OUGHT to look."

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LaVieilleHarpie · 15/08/2019 15:13

messolini - it's not about men and what they like. Personally, I don't give a shiny shit about men and what they like or dislike, and what they might think. In fact, I ignore them for the most part (with a few notable exceptions), because the male half of the population has little, if any, value to add to my life and I have taken great pleasure in distancing myself from them in my everyday life. I don't think I'd miss them much if they suddenly ceased to exist, on the whole.

You see, it is entirely possible to look great (with tweaks, if that's what you're into), have a fulfilling career, take plenty of time for intellectual stimulation, and have a good family life. These are all parts of my ipseity and I am not prepared to give it up. Not even for ideology of any description.

QualCheckBot · 15/08/2019 15:18

QualCheckBot noticing that someone has had Botox is not being critical of how someone looks

Erm...sounds like you go around thinking anyone who doesn't look terrible has had Botox, even when they quite possibly haven't and maybe just have good genes, and making judgements about them!

As for milking your looks don’t worry can still do it as you are older if you do desire to

"Milking your looks" err, would you like to explain to me what that is exactly?

Do you go around in a serge dress and keep your eyes castdownwards, lest you accidentally look a man in the eye in case he mistakes your gaze for a come on? Is wearing a nice dress permitted in your world? What about an open toed shoe? Is there a range of permitted hairstyles than one must choose from in order not to milketh thine looks?

I've never had to "milk my looks", thankfully, but I'd love to hear what it is and why you can no longer do it. Do enlighten me!

You sound very unhappy and seem to be lashing out at people. Perhaps you should try Botox!

Honestly, that "milking your looks" comment is one of the most ridiculous, but very funny things I've heard!

MisterOnion · 15/08/2019 15:18

Do whatever you want. If it will make you feel better and have more confidence, do it. Not everyone will approve, but they aren't the ones having Botox. You aren't doing it for them anyway, you're doing it for yourself

QualCheckBot · 15/08/2019 15:19

And sorry, that was to EnthusiasmIsDisturbed