WIBU to insist on this pram?

[aliensprig]

I really, really want a Bugaboo Fox. In the reviews it ticks all the boxes for me: sturdy, lightweight, all-terrain, great storage and obviously pretty damn gorgeous!!

BUT DH doesn't think we should spend a grand on something we'll only use for about three years and wants us to get something second hand. He doesn't understand that there are literally billions of types out there, and some of the cheaper brands are cheap for a reason!

Also he won't ever be pushing the damn thing - I don't drive, and will be doing A LOT of walking with it. We live in a hilly town with some rural areas, so just buying something at random from the Argos catalogue isn't going to cut it. It needs to be light, easily folded, have good storage and be able to tackle mud, uneven ground, hills and busy streets.

WIBU to just buy the Fox regardless? We're not rich by any means, but we're not poor either, we can afford it. Plus I expect my parents will want to cover half the cost. Or should I compromise and get something cheaper like the baby jogger city mini? I don't like that it's forward facing only, but it's another all-terrain and my husband is more likely to agree on that one...

My CAR was £1000, no way I'd pay that for a pram. Have a look at the Out n About, bloody great pram and a third of the price of the Bugaboo

From which you probably gather that I think YABU.

Items for babies are not fashion accessories - as indeed the baby itself is not.

We spent £1,500 on a bugaboo donkey for our twin boys in 2011, put it in storage, then used it as a single in 2015 for my youngest. We sold it to another twin mum for £650 in 2018. It was definitely worth the money and the resale is good. Depends what you're after. I loved it. My best friend went through 5 different prams before she found one she liked. She probably spent the same by the time she was done.

For all terrain, light, easy to fold I loved my Phil and reds vibe. 3 kids and I tried to walk that thing to death but it’s still going strong.

€900 but worth every penny, I got my money’s worth and more.

If you’re going to get the use out of it I think it’s worth the investment, or you’ll just end up buying a series of ones that aren’t right.

£1000 is ridiculous. Mountain Buggy or Baby Jogger are half the price and just as good.

More expensive buggies tend to be more substantial and thus heavier than less expensive buggies. This feels plush when you are pushing it for 30 seconds on the polished floor of John Lewis, but not so great when you are hoiking it into the boot for the one millionth time. Save your money and your back (and your marriage) and get something less expensive and lighter.

A grand for a buggy 🙈🙈oh my!

for future resale &/or multiple children it’s almost justified, commensurately there are comparable cheaper ones, Phil n Ted; mountain buggy... etc great walking prams... bugaboo get stolen often ; be prepared to be a walking target & can you face the loss if it dies:

but not so great when you are hoiking it into the boot for the one millionth time.

But not everyone is hoiking it in and out of the boot.

Which is why getting it right for your own individual circumstances is important.

I have a bugaboo. I walk everywhere. It’s virtually never in the boot. I love how it handles and I love how comfy it is for DC when they’re in it for long walks. It’s perfect for my set up.

If I was having to fold it up everyday I’d be much better off with something else.

Spent £1300 on the icandy cerium and I LOVE it!

bugaboo get stolen often ; be prepared to be a walking target

I’m not leaving mine lying around much personally.

Check fb marketplace and eBay for nearly new. I did this and got one which had been used by one child, immaculate and 50% of rrp

@LaurieMarlow you can buy a padlock on amazon for £6.

DO IT! Worth every penny. Dont buy a second hand one, you'll always wish it was brand new.

Baby jogger is AWESOME.
However
When I found myself pregnant when my older child was 5 months I decided I was going to have a bugaboo donkey. I got one second hand - we couldn’t afford the £1200 that they wanted new so we bought second hand. Bided my time and found one for £650, sold some of the accessories that came with it and it ended up costing me £500. When I sold it I sold it for £500 so I used it for 18 months (really looked after it) for free 😁

The bugaboo was lovely to push - the Fox doesn’t look that different to the bugaboo buffalo, if you’re walking everywhere I’d buy that second hand if I were you - you can pick them up fairly cheap. They’re great on all terrains (they’re basically the single version of the donkey), beautiful to push and even better they won’t put you into debt/mean that you spend more than you can afford :-)

That said, I had a baby jogger double after the donkey and I liked it just as much (but it wasn’t as versatile as the donkey so don’t regret the donk at all)

Honestly you’d get a lot less resistance on here if you wanted to buy a brand new Land Rover.

I know so many people that bought bugaboos because they are trendy and hate them but because they spent so much are stuck with it.
You are so much better off getting a second hand or cheaper brand.

Second hand bugaboo would be your best bet, if your heart is set on that brand.

Personally I found the best way was to buy a cheap one then replace it when needed. Was glad I did this especially when the first one got tar over it's wheels and I couldn't get it off!

I don’t know anyone who hates their bugaboo.

Maybe it’s a tribe thing? Regional? Hmm.

Pram manufacturers pray on the vanity of new parents who are anxious to show that they want the best for their little darlings (whether they can afford it or not). I got prams for both kids second hand for next to nothing, they weren't trendy, but as 99.99% of prams are - safe and user friendly. Raising a child costs a lot in terms of lost income and childcare, no need to chuck extra expenses in - unless you want to spend more time working and stressing and less time actually enjoying your child.

I bought a silver cross travel system second hand on eBay - exactly the type I wanted and for 215 pounds rather than 900!!! No way I’d spend that much on a new pram. The second hand one I bought was in immaculate condition and there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. I have had so much use out of it, going out pretty much every day. We have a lot of picnics now the weather is nice and it’s now getting covered in sticky fingers and bits of sandwiches but it doesn’t stress me out one bit because I know it didn’t cost hundreds and hundreds. Nothing wrong with second hand if you shop around - eBay is full of people who have spent thousands on prams who are now trying to get a bit of money back on what was a very expensive purchase for them!

Omg, don't do it! My biggest parenting regret is insisting on spending £800 on an iCandy. We used it for about a year before I bought a much more practical, light weight, easy collapsable, compact pram for £140 (Joie Litetrax) which I've been using for last two years. Huge hood, built in cupholder and pouch. Ticks all the boxes for things you actually need once they get past newborn stage. Expensive prams are such a con - keeping up with joneses.
Can't even now sell my icandy second hand for £100 because type of people who want an iCandy don't want second hand one.
Bugaboo and iCandy are not the best pushchairs, they are just the most expensive and showy. My advicd, buy a good pushchair package for a third of the price and use the rest for a nice weekend away babymoon or trip away with new baby.

If you really use it for three years then it's a small cost per day.

BUT...

DD outgrew our (secondhand) bugaboo chameleon way earlier than three - her head touched the canopy thing from about 18 months and she's not even big.

Also in my experience parents tend to get to first holiday, buy a cheapo fold up one to stick in the boot/take on the plane and realise how much better it is to have a light one then give up on the hefty one.

If you plan to have a second child before your first is three, you also won't have a full three years' use.

We really wanted a Bugaboo but also didn’t want to spend just over a grand for a Pram (hell you can buy a car for that!!)
We got ours on marketplace for just under £400, and looked after it so hopefully resell it on too (not ready too just yet though sorry!!)
Buy the Bugaboo, recommend it, but don’t buy it brand new!!

I had one of the first Bugaboo’s on the market. It was the Frog and considered an obscene amount of money back then!
And it was rubbish on public transport and really difficult to fold down. I could be seen kicking the shit out of it in supermarket car parks trying to fold it for the boot!
I went in for the McLaren as soon as he was old enough and it was joyful by comparison!
They’ve potentially improved the design since, but my advice - don’t waste the money. Especially if child is going to nursery as it won’t fit in many pram stores!!

If he's really agin it, I don't think it's honourable to go ahead and buy it. However, if your folks are in a position to go halves, and it really means that much to you, then run that option by him.
I bought a Mountain Buggy for my twin girls, which is truly all terrain. I currently push two 18 month girls all over very hilly parts of Weston-super-Mare, with chronic arthritis. It's not 'pretty', though, so is not for everyone. 😅