AIBU to not understand how a “no deal” is possible given Parliament will vote against it?

[virginmojito]

If this isn’t a daft question please, what do people presume will happen when Parliament rejects the “no deal” scenario that we are almost certainly headed for now.

Will we still crash out by default? Will the government collapse? What will happen?

whyamidoingthis maybe the opposition parties would be able to cobble together a government just long enough to ask for an extension. Then call a GE.

Interesting times we live in, it's hard not to get obsessed!

Anyway, I am 90% sure we won't go to No Deal. But I'm building my stash just in case.

No Deal isn’t a thing. It’s the absence of a thing.

@ghostofharrenhal - maybe the opposition parties would be able to cobble together a government just long enough to ask for an extension. Then call a GE.

Anything is possible but you would need enough politicians willing to put country before self-interest. I'm not sure there are enough of them around.

That is sadly true whyami.

I have a feeling (hope) that a no confidence vote will go through. It must do, surely. Then some combo or other if politicians will request an extension, based on a swift GE? The EU will agree as they dint want a no deal either. And the Lib Dems will get in? Am I deluded?

@virginmojito - Then some combo or other if politicians will request an extension

They can only do that if they form a government. I would suggest lobbying your local MP on that basis. Supporting a vote of no confidence isn't enough.

Boris is never going to revoke A50. I think it's highly unlikely the EU will agree to an 11th hour deal, why would they?

I think we will crash out without a deal and it will be very bad.

There are some good articles on BBC politics about this.

If Boris Johnson refused to resign as prime minister after losing a confidence vote, there would be no vacancy for a new government even if they thought they could win a confidence vote.

Why do we think he wouldn't win a vote of no confidence?

MaMaMaMySharona because he has only got a majority of one in parliament and some in his own party might vote against him.

It's what will happen automatically unless enough MPs get together, actually agree on a positive plan to avoid it, and pass all the necessary legislation to achieve it, including repealing quite a lot of legislation specifically for Brexit. And getting all the necessary votes through both Houses, with a minimum of 320 votes in the Commons for each vote. I don't know what the majority is in the Lords.

The other point that needs to be remembered is that there are very few Parliamentary working days left before the 31st October. Parliament returns on the 3rd Sept but then breaks again on the 14th Sept and then isn't back until the 9th October. That's not a huge amount of time in which to complete any option

The problem with hoping for a no confidence vote and a GE is that even ardent remainer Tories would rather cling to power than risk toppling Boris and risk an uncertain outcome to an election. Boris might call one the day after we have a no deal Brexit though as a kind of “now what?”

Yes I bet Boris will resign or call a GE the day after a no deal because he won’t want to preside over the fall out or for that shitshow to be his legacy.

Farage will also instantly resign, of course.

And they’ll both blame the EU.

ghostsofharrenhal - apologies if I misunderstood, I assumed the OP was referring to the possibility of a vote of no confidence against BJ.

VONC early in September.
If Boris wins it is effectively an endorsement for no deal.
But Boris will probably lose the vonc.
Corbyn will try and fail to get enough votes to form a government, he is toxic.
Corbyn will not support any one else to form a government, because he actually wants out of the EU as well.
14 days later Boris will call an election in November and parliament is dissolved.
Boris carries on as PM to see through a no deal, be hailed a great leader and go on to win a majority at the general election, which he is campaigning quite effectively for already while Labour is on holiday.

Any thing else MPs vote for doesn't have any time left to have any impact the government waiting out a no deal.

AwdBovril it's all pretty confusing at times!

God, what a depressing scenario newstart1337. It could happen.

But I honestly think Johnson does not want to be the PM who allowed No Deal to happen. Although on the other hand his rhetoric does seem to be positioning himself so that he can blame everyone else for it if it doeas happen. He is a canny bugger.

You see I don't think BJ or the rest of the leave Tories fear no deal at all. They want to push the EU right up to the wire, The EU certainly didn't think TM would ever go through with it so gave us a crap deal.
So BJ et al are trying the opposite strategy.

@whyamidoingthis so sorry but what is WA? So confused about Brexit that I've downloaded 'Brexit for Dummies' but not read it yet.

@SuzieSunshine - so sorry but what is WA?

It's the withdrawal agreement. It does get pretty confusing!

It's the default setting. Like when you take a mortgage fixed rate out and then don't take another one so go on variable rate

Parliament can vote all it likes but unless EU agree to an extension we are leaving on 31 October with no deal regardless.

WA = withdrawal agreement.

I wonder if MPs now regret not accepting the May / EU deal?