AIBU to object to the unelected bureaucrat running the show in Number 10?

[longwayoff]

Brexit voters objected to 'unelected bureaucrats' 'giving us orders from Brussels' and voted to 'get our sovereignty back'. Their vote has brought us Dominic Cummings -who voted for him?- and the suggestion that Bozo (PM courtesy of Tory members) override the concerns of our sovereign parliament and simply do as he sees fit. Is this what you voted for? Hurrah for democracy.

He was elected though. He was elected by his party, the same as all leaders are elected.

When you vote in a general election you don’t vote for your PM, you vote for the MP in your area.

I don’t like the bloke any more than the next person, but people need to get over this view that a leader who comes in mid-term wasn’t elected and that process being somehow unfair, because the PM is never elected by the voters.

Is this what you voted for?
Pointless question which you already answered.
Pointless thread.

Dominic Cummings is not elected. Bozo, as I've said, was elected to be PM by Tory members.

Ergo, familycourt, pointless post.

Ergo, familycourt, pointless post
Pointing out something is pointless isn’t pointless. Logic isn’t your strong suit is it op?

Oh look, I see Philip Hammond said the same as I yesterday, go question his knowledge and intellectual capability. Or, maybe, your own.

Yes OP. And as we live in a democracy he can be voted out in the next elections, which may well be very soon!

I don't like him. But they are not bureacrats that cannot be removed

Philip Hammond is yesterday's man. It's about time he retired to go and count his money.

Yes solitude, I agree. Dominic Cummings, however, currently pulling Boris's strings, has not been elected and is a malign force. Nor is he a civil servant in the traditional sense. He's an 'adviser' structuring the progress of Brexit. Unelected.

Unelected "adviser" in 10, oh the Tories choose him that's fine. That's how democracy works.

Elected officials in charge of EU undemocratic. Bring back sovereignty.

Yeap your typical Brexiteer logic at work.

I agree OP, Cummings is an unelected disrupter who has no sense of accountability and has been found in contempt of Parliament. Yet he seems to be running the show as far as Brexit is concerned.

I don't think a lot of people realise Dominic Cummings isn't elected. The media need to make a lot more of this because it stinks to high heaven. He headed a campaign that has been found to have broken the law and now he is in an extremely powerful position. It's wrong and any Brexitier who claims otherwise is either, shock horror, stupid, or know it's fundamentally wrong and are just saying they're ok with it because they think his actions are likely to get them the outcome they want.

And we all know that we don't vote for PMs in this country but the circumstances we in are unlike any since WW2. It would be unprecedented for someone who has not received a mandate to come in and take action that would have a massive irreversible (at least in the short term) detrimental impact on the country knowing that parliament is largely opposed to it. To just come out with 'we vote for MPs not PMs, put up with it' is utterly irrelevant in the current situation, hence the endless stream of pundits on the news mulling over the possible outcomes that could ensue if BJ presses ahead.

This is not a pointless thread at all; it should be the most talked about matter on here atm and the fact that it isn't is part of the problem.

Asking “is this what you voted for” in response to the appointment of an unelected adviser is utterly pointless and irrelevant. That wasn’t on an ballot or referendum as op pointed out so it self evidently cannot be what anyone voted for. It’s a total non-sequitur.

familycourtq doesn't want this discussed, do they?
Op, you are right, of course. This is being swept under the carpet in the disguise of what's best for the people.
Someone, somewhere has got to step up to what's going on.

Its bloody grim, @poolrefusers, I feel like someone's spiked the water supply and turned us all into zombies. Hopefully, when August's over and politicians and press return from their holidays a bit of waking up will take place. I really do despair.

familycourtq doesn't want this discussed, do they
Strawman argument. I never said that, I said the question “is this what you voted for” was self evidently pointless. I never said op wasn’t entitled to object to Cummings or anyone else involved.

He sounds just like Alastair Campbell

Ive voted in general elections in uk

Never voted for a pm. Not how it works here

Special advisors have existed since Harold Wilson. He's no different to Steve Hilton, Alastair Campbell, or (the fictional) Dorothy Wainwright.

And have they all taken a leading role in enacting massive decisions like leaving the EU with no deal, DdraigGoch? And talked about proroguing parliament in order to do so? Thought not.

And had they all taken a leading role in campaigns since found to have broken electoral law? That'll be another no won't it?

No one elected Nicola Sturgeon as an MP either but she's got plenty to say about how Parliament is run. It's horses for courses.

After the havoc he wreaked on our education system I fucking hate the man

OMG, the ill-informed whataboutery - unlike Cummings Sturgeon has no power in Westminster. She is doing her best to represent the people in Scotland who did, in fact, elect her.

And how many advisers have been found to be in contempt of parliament just a couple of months before being glad handed into Number Ten?