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To not leave holiday villa at designated time tomorrow?

371 replies

Nextphonewontbesamsung · 03/08/2019 01:20

We are staying in a rural village in the south of France and are supposed to check out of our villa at 10.00 am. Howver, tonight there is a concert in the village square (our villa overlooks this square) and there is a band that have played a 7 hour set at FULL VOLUME. They have gone from Ed Sheeran and Coldplay covers to full on heavy metal and still going strong at 2.14am local time. Currently we're into about the 10th minute of their homage to Feels Like Teen Spirit. I have my alarm set for 8am so that we can be up early to finish packing and cleaning. Aibu to move my alarm back by at least an hour? We won't be ready to leave by 10 but I have a long drive tomorrow and it is not safe when so sleep deprived! Needless to say I am enormously fucked off!

OP posts:
teachermam · 03/08/2019 10:28

If it's Airbnb owners are usually very flexible about check out so text them

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 03/08/2019 10:28

And it is not the responsibility of the owner of the property to advise you of concerts or other potentially noisy happenings. Most of the time unless they actually live in the village as well, they have no idea of anything happening.

Well, that's a huge pity.

We nearly missed the most amazing firework display because our hotel didn't think to tell us about the late fireworks to end the fiesta! The noise woke us up and once we'd worked out which side of the building the came from we watched from the stairwell in our pyjamas. Fantastic! But if we'd known we'd have seen the whole thing from the roof terrace or stayed out and watched from the beachside.

And there was a lot of amplified music, all day and late into the night for two days after we arrived, in what I was expecting to be a quiet though very touristy seaside town. Once we worked out it was fiesta time and the music was mostly live (if over-amplified) we got into the spirit of it but as bewildered new arrivals we just thought we'd made a bad location choice.

I would not have stayed late. I would write to the owners to ask them to tell guests about local events in future; and to the concert organisers or local tourist office to ask them to tell the owners, so everyone can enjoy the fun or avoid it if they prefer.

This could be their livelihood that you are messing around with.

If you get it wrong and piss your guests off through a lack of information, then people write bad reviews and you lose business. That's your responsibility too.

MyAuntyBadger · 03/08/2019 10:29

Oh God - Betsy's email. I read it in Captain Mainwaring's voice. But nobody should leave a bad review for things that are out of the owner's control, that's just nasty.

KatharinaRosalie · 03/08/2019 10:29

Today is THE biggest travelling day in France for holidays and pretty much all villas in South of France will be booked. Very inconsiderate to assume cleaners can just hang around, and the family coming in does not mind waiting an extra few hours.

FrannySalinger · 03/08/2019 10:30

I Airbnb some properties and am super flexible about check out but I 100% guarantee that if I received that email I would be insisting on op being out by 10am Grin

SoupDragon · 03/08/2019 10:30

So much vitriol on this thread.

So much entitlement.

Doubleraspberry · 03/08/2019 10:32

It is Black Saturday, ie the day that most of northern France drives south for the first fortnight of August. So the OP is going in the right direction at least, but yes, chances of a nice villa going empty are low!

KatharinaRosalie · 03/08/2019 10:33

Airbnb owners are usually very flexible about check out

Some other time and place, possibly. Practically all holiday accommodation in France is rented Saturday to Saturday in high season. Today is the high, high season.

Medievalist · 03/08/2019 10:34

*So much vitriol on this thread.

So much entitlement*

I think the vitriol wins hands down

LagunaBubbles · 03/08/2019 10:35

*colourlessgreenidea

Don't you think the villa owner bears some responsibility for letting prospective guests know what is going on in the area at the time of their booking?*

Seriously? Hmm

Doubleraspberry · 03/08/2019 10:36

I was once working in France (had to be up at 6am to start every day, and work through to 9pm) and there was a week long summer rock concert going on outside my hotel that went on till 2am or so every night. Them’s the breaks. (Which is obviously what I said at the time.)

viques · 03/08/2019 10:39

aurally assaulted without any warning

I love the idea of a without any warning stealth concert, the roadies creeping about setting up the stage after sundown , the entire audience hushing each other and stifling giggles as they tip toe into the town square, the band doing a silent final countdown as they prepare to aurally assault the OP with their opening chords..........

I hope all concerts are done like this in future. To hell with publicity posters, advance publicity and ticket sales , setting up the stage in daylight, doing sound checks hours before, its stealth concerts only from now on.

Ps if Mick and the boys are reading this, my garden is always available, back gate unlocked.

TatianaLarina · 03/08/2019 10:40

Airbnb owners are usually very flexible about check out

Some can be.

If it’s just a room or a small apartment and the owner is cleaning it themselves, it’s easy to be flexible.

For bigger properties in the high season, you have to book and pay the cleaners, they may not be able to reschedule, particularly late stage.

And if the guests checkout later the cleaning takes longer, the fresh guests arriving will get into the house later.

TaxiPlease · 03/08/2019 10:41

If it's Airbnb owners are usually very flexible about check out so text them

Well, I certainly try to be when I can (feels more in the spirit of AirBnB), but not when the next guests are arriving a few hours later! In that case the cleaning situation is exactly the same as any other holiday rental and I would run into major problems if people refused to leave on time.

progestermoan · 03/08/2019 10:42

We always stay past check out time but pre arrange this as it’s impossible for us to be up ready and out by the usual time of 10am.

Could you text the owner first thing and say you’ll need an extra hour but do your best to be out as early as possible after 10

Roussette · 03/08/2019 10:42

God alive... do people really need property owners to plan their social life for them? Just bloody google it! Or keep your eyes open when you are away!
The OP has said her villa overlooks the square. Surely she saw stuff being set up... stage, speakers whatever. She could've taken the right steps and had a siesta, then packed up, then gone to the festivities and up and out next morning.

Nowadays lots of villages/towns/communities have their own FB pages showing what's going on. I betch it would've taken me 5 minutes to find the OP's festivities.

An owner bears absolutely NO responsibility to advise a Rentee of what is going on in the area, don't people plan their holidays any more???

colourlessgreenidea · 03/08/2019 10:45

@LagunaBubbles

*colourlessgreenidea

Don't you think the villa owner bears some responsibility for letting prospective guests know what is going on in the area at the time of their booking?*

Seriously? hmm

I was quoting a pp. Just want to correct this so it’s clear that I did not originally come up with that dip-shitted nonsense!

NoTheresa · 03/08/2019 10:45

You are being selfish and self-centred. You leave at the allotted time.

Cohle · 03/08/2019 10:47

Why on Earth is it the villa owner's fault the OP didn't do any research? They may well have thought OP came to the area specifically for the celebrations.

TaxiPlease · 03/08/2019 10:47

People who stay past check-out time without prior arrangement, claiming there is still plenty of time for the cleaners to turn the place around, should also remember that occasionally the owner (in the spirit of being nice and flexible) may have allowed the next guests to check in early. Very entitled to assume everyone else can work around you.

Witchend · 03/08/2019 10:48

FOr those of you who say you have never met a cleaner, she does not go into the house or make her presence obvious until the guests have left. It is pretty easy to see when people are still in the house.

We've left properties (at the correct time I may say!) and as we've come out of the village, there's been a car which is clearly the cleaners waiting for us to go.

TatianaLarina · 03/08/2019 10:50

God alive... do people really need property owners to plan their social life for them?

Hell yeah. I’ve been asked to advise on what clothes to take, to book tickets to see Elton John, opera tickets, organise yoga and Pilates lessons, cooks, cooking lessons, chauffered vineyard and sightseeing tours (ok we offer those, but guests could book themselves), book taxis, book restaurants, find hotels. I’ve even one guest phoning late at night to say his wife inhaled some bug spray and what should they do.

Confused
MorrisZapp · 03/08/2019 10:52

If cleaners are clamouring to get in at 10am then why can't you arrive til 4? It's the self catering conundrum I've never understood.

Doubleraspberry · 03/08/2019 10:53

Because it can take six hours to get the place sorted?

Whisky2014 · 03/08/2019 10:55

Id have joined the party!

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