To tweet BA pilots that I earn less than the INCREASE they're demanding?

[CheapSeats]

I earn 18000 a year. BA pilots are asking for an increase of 20000 a year. Yeah I know about skills and responsibility blah blah blah but AIBU to be upset that my holiday might be ruined? They're bleating in the papers today that they're upset that they now only get to stay in 4 star hotels instead of 5.

I think pilots are wildly over paid. There is some sort of macho sky god last century BS that causes people to think that pilots are somehow superhuman.

You know who really has a load of responsibility for hundreds of lives and whose job isn't 99.5% done by the on board computers?

Nurses.

Lets get nurses a 20K increase first then we can talk about how many star hotels pilots should be sleeping in.....

Good on them for fighting for more pay/profit-sharing. BA makes billions in profit--management should be sharing it with all workers, not just pilots.

Pilots are employed by commercial enterprises, they are not public sector workers. Cutting pilots' pay would in no way enable nurses and other NHS workers to be paid more.

@cuppycakey

You OK hun?

Pilots nowadays have very little to do - they're there in case the auto systems fail

I'm not sure if you are aware but it's the pilots themselves that feed the 'auto system'. The plane won't go anywhere without the information.

@M3lon nurses aren't paid by BA.

In a fair market if you don’t like the job then go elsewhere.

We don't have a fair labour market, it doesn't work on a pure supply v demand system. Is this news to you?

the lack of crashes/accidents is more to do with the mechanics & avionics ground crew technicians than the pilot

How do you know this?

Given the rest of you post is nonsense I am going to take a guess that you just said this without any sound background knowledge.

Both of these things prevent planes from crashing, but crashing isn't the only thing that goes wrong. Planes are diverted every single day due to one issue or another. It's the pilots that do that. An example upthread about a bird stole the other week. Plane takes off, suffers a birdstike, pilots shut down and engine and return the the airport landing safely 18 minutes later. Stuff like this happens often, how bloggs just doesn't hear about it as it's not really newsworthy. It was a BA plane it happened to, but abroad. If it were in the UK it may have been picked up by a local rag

The point is, pilots prevent crashes and save lives EVERY DAY.

Not sure what concerns me more,

People who don't support workers rights, or

People who think flying a plane is a case of pressing go and sitting back for eight hours.

I'm not sure if you are aware but it's the pilots themselves that feed the 'auto system'. The plane won't go anywhere without the information.

I'm very aware!
It is not an especially tricky job to fly today's passenger aircraft so long as the techies have done their job properly & no systems malfunction

Pilots are worth their money not because of what they do day to day, but because of what they know

When things go wrong, that's when their training & skill is essential & invaluable

*How do you know this?

Given the rest of you post is nonsense I am going to take a guess that you just said this without any sound background knowledge.*

😂😂
KK then

I know because I'm an aircraft techie by trade

@DustyDiamond

I'm very aware!

You don't sound it. In fact the rest of your post and the one before indicate that you don't have a clue.

Sat with a BA pilot friend of mine yesterday.

He was explaining exactly what some have said on here ...

You have £100k loan to pay back when you qualify with many only warning £20k to start with.

Over last 15 years they have increased profits whilst not just not giving them payrises but squeezing their working conditions to the most minimal amount that they can get away with.

They are an important part of the companies success and should be rewarded for it.

KK Bernie

You carry on doing you

I was an aircraft tech for over 20 years

I acknowledged that the pilots are worth their money because the buck ultimately stops with them & their skills/training are invaluable when things go wrong

I was an aircraft tech for over 20 years

Haha

Laugh it up sunbeam 😂
It's true 😂😂

Yeah I know about skills and responsibility blah blah blah

Well, no, it's not "blah, blah, blah". It's the whole point...

YABU

Sunbeam

Not sure what that means.

If you genuinely did work as an aircraft tech there is no way you would have said

the lack of crashes/accidents is more to do with the mechanics & avionics ground crew technicians than the pilot

Because that displays a staggering lack of knowledge of the aviation industry.

Don't get in such a tizz because someone the Internet has said something you don't like - life is too short 😂

Will repeat myself for the cheap seats:

Pilots deserve / are worth the money they earn because they are paid for what they know
That is, when things go wrong, they are invaluable & essential

Day to day, when all systems are working & there are no failures or curveballs, their job is not particularly arduous

It is techies who ensure that the plane is fit to fly & every link in the flight safety chain is important & necessary (which was actually my original point - that 'planes don't crash' solely because of pilots but because of everyone involved in the process (techies' work being the major safety factor Pre flight, pilots from start up & wheels up, to wheels down & shut down)

I was a techie for over 20 years & was responsible for independent inspections etc by the time I left so certainly don't have a "staggering lack of knowledge of the aviation industry"

Day to day, when all systems are working & there are no failures or curveballs, their job is not particularly arduous

I disagree,their shift pattern can be dire.

** absolutely agree with the rest of your post!

@DustyDiamond

the lack of crashes/accidents is more to do with the mechanics & avionics ground crew technicians than the pilots

This is what you said. What you said after to try and make like you know what you are talking about isn't really relevant.

Anyone worth their salt in aviation knows this statement is bollocks. If you worked in aviation you would know how many incidents happen every single day that joe public doesn't hear about. You would also know that the pilots are the ones in the driving seat. The ones who save the lives. The ones who absolutely DO prevent accidents.

Either you didn't work in that field or you did and you are arrogant enough to think you know it all and are better than everyone else. Flight crew included.

I disagree,their shift pattern can be dire.

That too!
It's not a job I would want to do AT ALL!!

What you said after to try and make like you know what you are talking about isn't really relevant.

Totally know what I'm talking about - fear not!

But like I said, you do you & carry on being cross because someone has a different viewpoint

I can't be arsed to join in so you're on your own I'm afraid 😂

A pilot simply couldn't do his job at all without an airborne aircraft - getting an aircraft airborne requires serviceable systems - that, my dear, is the job of the techie

Pay them what they like for the hours when my life is literally in their hands.

You happy to pay a lot more for your air fares/holidays then!