To have not known this about Ryanair?

[eastandwestand]

So, we’ve not flown for around 5 years.
Instead we’ve done ferries, a couple of cruises and U.K. holidays.
Booked our flights with Ryanair and booked 2 bags which could each contain 20kg.
Weighed them the night before. 1 bag was 20kg and 1 bag was 22kg. So 2kg over.
Spoke to a few people who said the person checking the bags usually turns a blind eye with a couple of kg extra weight. In fact I’ve never been charged for excess luggage, even when my bag was 29kg instead of 25kg EasyJet just stuck a “heavy” label on it.
Anyway, got to the airport and it’s self check in.
You weigh your own baggage and before the machine prints you a luggage label you have to pay on the card machine attached to the scales for any KG you are over.
So you can’t physically board a flight until you have paid £11 per kilo for anything over.
I paid obviously, as my case was over, but I never realised this check in system even existed!
Has it been around for long? Or am just not an airport pro these days?

Has no one posted the Ryanair song yet?

I've been flying for a long time

The rules for all airlines have always been the same. You are allowed X amount. Any extra weight you are charged.

I always fly with less, because I like to find things to fly back with

It's NOT a new thing !

I've never known an airline NOT charge excess baggage

BA and Swiss Air don’t weigh at LCY

Travelled BA loads. For years . Since 1977. They always weighed. Planes don't fly if you don't know how much lift you need. Cannae change the laws of physics etc etc

I know the baggage weight rules are there for a reason and the point of the thread is about making sure that you adhere to your airline's rules, but the odd kilo here and there is nothing compared to the variation in the weight of the unweighed passengers.

They use an average figure for men and women nothing else, but does that account for people on a particular flight being heavier or lighter than average?

What if there are a lot fewer children on board - do they use a different average weight in the school holidays compared with term time?

What about flights that are mostly men compared with mixed sexes - I've been on a flight that served a destination where most people were going to work on the oil rigs - it was at least 90% male passengers.

Personally I'd like to ban all the bloody cabin baggage for passengers who are checking in hold bags. If you've got a bloody great suitcase checked in why on earth do you need to be farting about in the cabin with another 10kg case holding everyone up and nearly decapitating the next person waiting to get into their seat

Yes, totally agree.

I take a backpack on board so it goes under the seat in front. I never take a big case on board.

I agree that cheap airlines should be more upfront about what needs to happen at airports. The assumption is always that people are frequent flyers, and those who are not and have not flown for many years can easily find themselves lost without a paddle in the new systems!

I am impressed you could carry a case at 20kg!!

Haven't flown for years and never with a so called budget airline until last Spring. Ryanair were perfectly clear with lots of info readily available online If You Bother To Look For It .

They put all the information you need to know on their website, prompt you to add luggage etc during the booking process and email you about it constantly between booking and your flight time.

Is it wrong that they assume that people take notice of this information? What more can/should they be doing?

Personally I'd like to ban all the bloody cabin baggage for passengers who are checking in hold bags. If you've got a bloody great suitcase checked in why on earth do you need to be farting about in the cabin with another 10kg case holding everyone up and nearly decapitating the next person waiting to get into their seat.

Because sometimes people are travelling for extended periods and need to check a bag but also have things they cant check in. I have just been to Spain working for 5 weeks flying with Ryanair and I had one 20.1kg suitcase checked in and two hand luggage items - one full of work stuff including my work laptop and confidential paperwork that I have to keep with me and one with my personal items (passport/phone/keys/laptop/tablet/book/headphones etc).

I held nobody up as I was straight on the plane, tablet and headphones in my pocket, stacked both bags on top of each other in the overhead locker and sat down. The guy next to me had one suitcase and spent forever faffing with it, getting stuff out and holding up everyone else trying to get on board.

Also, there is no way I would ever check in my electronics in my hold luggage, both for the theft and damage risks. So you're going to have to accept that I'll have checked luggage and a bag full of electronics and other essential stuff to compete for space with your weekend bag.

It's like people with liquids at the security check!

"Any liquids etc?"
"Yeah. I got x and y and zzzz"
"You need to take it out and put it in a plastic bag. Max 100ml each"
Cue in "Whaaaat. Whyyy. That's an expensive bottle!"
Or them saying OK and faffing about holding up the queue.
There are signs and PICTURES all over the place. All over.
People just don't read anymore.

@TheFridgeRaider YES!!! After passing a BAZILLION signs warning them to chuck or bag them up.

So the priority with Ryanair gives you two bags - but it only gives the dimensions of the little under the seat one. So the other one can be any size as long as it's under 10kg and will fit in the locker- is that right?

What do you mean it doesn't give you dimensions? It does

www.ryanair.com/ie/en/useful-info/baggage/priority-and-2-cabin-bags

I'm glad airlines are enforcing the rules. I didn't realise so many people thought they could get a couple of extra kg for free in their checked bags. Why should I pack to the rules and other people not bother, yet we pay the same?
I also welcome them forcing people to put their cabin bags in that metal box thing to check the dimensions. On some flights people bring on board bags that are clearly over the limits then dominate all the space in the overhead locker. Same goes for people bringing a cabin bag, handbag, totes bag, duty free bag etc etc on board. Just taking the piss! Should be one cabin, one small bag.
If you want to take all these bags on holiday, you should have to pay or ship your extra luggage seperately.

Tatapie No, the 10 kg bag has to be within what their size definition of a large carry on bag (usually a wheelie suitcase but could be holdall or rucksack is too) as stated on their website if you are taking it into the cabin.

You can also book a 10 kg bag into the hold, for only slightly more than paying for priority, and substantially cheaper than a 'full' 20 kg bag, but I don't know if there is a size limit on this.

It will say exactly on the website.

Got it thanks

I agree that cheap airlines should be more upfront about what needs to happen at airports.

Most airports have walk through guides on their website. They're designed to help passengers with disabilities but anyone is free to view them.

Felt a bit uncomfortable opening up the cases in front of all the other passengers to find a beach bag and get stuff out.

You weighed them the night before, could have done it then.

I wonder how much they let you go over

The limit is 20kg..

Your point about overall weight is moot. Bags in the hold impact differently on the physics of flight than bags in the cabin. It's the difference between point weight at the bottom of the plane where the heavier bags are specifically placed to ensure safe loading and spread weight where it has less impact higher up. There is also the cost. If everyone took the view that a couple of kilos doesn't make a difference, the overall fuel efficiency is lower. An extra 100kg in weight uses around 5000kg more per year. 189 seats on a flight means an extra 378kg. That's an extra 18,900kg of fuel. That's around £8k extra fuel cost per plane per year. With 450 planes that's over £4 million a year.

That kind of "penny pinching" is how they are able to offer such cheap flights. Let those who want to take more weight, pay for it.

Personally I'd like to ban all the bloody cabin baggage for passengers who are checking in hold bags. If you've got a bloody great suitcase checked in why on earth do you need to be farting about in the cabin with another 10kg case holding everyone up and nearly decapitating the next person waiting to get into their seat

Single parent of two here.
One suitcase as neither old enough to carry a suitcase. So I squeeze everything in to one. It’s tight, very tight.
Cabin luggage books, toys and snacks.

If you have a different way for single parents of young children - please tell me

I flew Ryanair a week ago. We had one suitcase for the hold and one 10kg cabin bag plus our free daypacks. The woman didn’t look at any of the had luggage at all, or weight the cabin bag. I’d been expecting her to get us all to put them in the sizers.

I asked if we could put the 10kg cabin bag in the hold and she said no we’d be charged for it so we had to take in with us.

They usually make you put it into the cage if they think it looks bigger.
I remember few years back a woman hysterically screetching at the staff at the gate that her bag will NOT go into hold and she will not pay for it, because it's their fault it doesn't fit into the cage. They should have told her about measurements.

I felt so sorry for them. She wasn't the only one arguing by far, there was always at least 10 people on each flight, but they way she spoke with screeched at them stayed with me

The measurements were clearly displayed on boarding passes and website🤷
I think that's one of the reasons why people now have to pay extra. To discourage people bringing clearly unsuitable hand luggage and so making it bit easier on the staff.