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Feeling a bit stupid for doing this, but still think it was the right thing to do.

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Movinghouseatlast · 29/07/2019 16:19

I have had a cleaner for my business for 3 years now. She needed to leave as was starting a much more lucrative cleaning job with more hours.

I was going to start doing the cleaning myself but there was a month between her wanting to stop and me being able to start. She said she would stay on, and also she desperately needed the extra money. So it was all good.

She then asked me if her mum could do the job instead of her. The mum has just left a terrible coersive controlling relationship where the guy had forced her into prostitution, she had just managed to leave and move away.

I said of course, and it just seemed assumed by both of them that the mum would carry on cleaning, not stop after a month. I was really aware that this was a fresh start for her, I wanted to help and I hate cleaning so decided to let her take the job on permanently, despite the fact I only really needed someone for a month.

After 2 cleans she phoned me saying she needed some money for a deposit on a flat, and could I pay her a month in advance. She said she had nowhere to live and I was worried she would go back to her old life, so I paid her.

2 weeks later she phoned in tears saying she had no money for food and could I advance her 2 weeks money. Again, I thought she might be tempted back if she was skint.

I think you can guess where this is going.

She has called in sick for the last two weeks. I also discovered that when she last cleaned she did around £100 worth of damage, which she knows about but hasn't apologised for.

I feel stupid, but she was so grateful for me giving her the job, and SO grateful when I gave her the money in advance. I trusted her daughter who used to clean for me implicitly. But I know I have been really gullible. I am £600 down which I just can't afford really.

My dad controlled my mum horribly, which I think is why I felt I needed to help her. She has had a terrible time and I'm sure she hasn't set out to fleece me. But the fact still remains that I have lost money! I feel really stupid.

OP posts:
SouthWestmom · 29/07/2019 18:48

How much are you paying that you are £600 down? If that's six weeks money are you paying £100 a week ?

LittlefairyMum · 29/07/2019 18:49

Would you ask the daughter to work off her mums debt ?

She 'sold' her to you at the end of the day. She must have known what she was like!

Not fair on you OPThanks

Pjsandbaileys · 29/07/2019 18:50

Bless you and your kind heart 💓 it think you may have to chalk this one up to experience, I hope it doesn't cloud your judgement of people going forward you sound like such a nice person.

wizzywig · 29/07/2019 18:51

Is this something the police can deal with? To prevent others getting scammed like you? You were taken advantage of, how cruel of her to do that

Movinghouseatlast · 29/07/2019 18:55

Noeuf it is only 6 hours work on one day, not a full time job! I also had to replace what she broke.

OP posts:
BusterGonad · 29/07/2019 18:58

I'm sorry that doing a good turn has ended badly for you.
Just out of interest what did she break???

HermioneWeasley · 29/07/2019 19:03

You sound very kind. Expensive lesson I’m afraid

nettie434 · 29/07/2019 19:09

You are not stupid, just kind. I wouldn’t like to think the mother was forced to go back to prostitution and an abusive partner because I didn’t help her. This way your conscience is clear, as others say.

Going forward, it doesn’t look as if the mother is really up to the job. Not telling you about the breakage is bad too. I think I’d write this off as a bad experience. What about finding a cooperative cleaning company as you are clearly a nice person who wants to treat people fairly?

HollowTalk · 29/07/2019 19:15

I wouldn't want her to clean again. If she's got no money, for whatever reason, and she's cheated you out of £600, you can't be sure she won't take things to sell.

I'm really sorry but agree with the others - you will have to write this off.

AcrossthePond55 · 29/07/2019 19:17

I think you're lovely for wanting to help her, but sometimes help hurts more than it helps.

Just chalk it up to experience and let her know that her services are no longer needed. Let her daughter know the truth out of courtesy (explain that you don't expect her to pay you anything) so she doesn't try to get her mum other jobs. It's not good for the daughter's reputation.

TheresWaldo · 29/07/2019 19:18

Sorry - but you were extremely naïve here. But what you can you do? Learn from it and move on. You are unlikely to see your money again. Being kind is lovely but there are piss takers out there and I think you have been had.

Idontwanttotalk · 29/07/2019 19:24

Just write it off and move on. You have been taken for a fool so just don't be taken in again.

I wouldn't let her work off the debt because she may damage something else or help herself to something. She has already proved she is not trustworthy. Clean yourself or, if you do get a new cleaner, make sure you never give an advance again.

NationMcKinley · 29/07/2019 19:28

You’re obviously super kind. Such a shame it’s backfired on you Flowers

Number3or4 · 29/07/2019 19:38

She took advantage of your kindness op. It's not her daughter's fault. Well done, for trying to keep someone from an abusive relationship and/ or prostitution.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 29/07/2019 19:41

You have been very kind and taken a chance on helping someone who was in a bad way.
I think you've helped her enough now and should draw a line under it.

I would tell her daughter though.
I'm sorry this has happened to you.

BoomBoomsCousin · 29/07/2019 19:45

I wouldn't want her to clean again. If she's got no money, for whatever reason, and she's cheated you out of £600, you can't be sure she won't take things to sell.

I think this is a real risk in the circumstances.

SouthWestmom · 29/07/2019 19:56

So 36 hours was £500? Is that 13£ an hour?

SouthWestmom · 29/07/2019 19:57

Just nosy for hourly rate. I definitely wouldn't be writing £600 off

Juells · 29/07/2019 20:34

Could you speak to her about whats going to happen going forward.

I wouldn't let her inside my door again. It would be stealing, next. A friend's mother always had a sob tale that her daughter fell for every time - her purse was 'stolen' several times, always with her week's money in it. Friend's husband used to empty the silver coins from his pocket into a box in the wardrobe all year, when it came time to go on holiday there could be a couple of hundred or more in it. One year (the last year he did it!) when they got the box down the weight was right, but it was full of copper coins Grin She stole the money her teenage grandson had been saving for a pair of shoes. No conscience, absolutely brazen, deny deny deny. Your cleaner's mother is cut from the same cloth, seems to me. Always some tragedy that costs everyone else money.

Warpdrive · 29/07/2019 20:44

Im afraid youll have to chalk it up to experience and recoup some other way. I personally wouldnt want this person to clean for me (whether she owed.me.or not) as the trust has gone.
I also wouldnt mention to the daughter - it isnt her debt and there's no need to share it, it would just shame her.
Its a costly experience but you have to consider it a lesson learnt and you wont make that mistake again will you?

I feel sorry for you.

15YemenRoad · 30/07/2019 02:52

OP, you have been kind, but the truth is - you shouldn't write this off. What they have done is disgraceful and in all honesty you do not know whether what has been said to you is actually true or not.

Do not write this off, contact her and say unless she completes her paid work you will be taking this to a small claims court and ensuring you get your money back. Also inform her you will be reporting this to the police. I know it sounds harsh, but there is no reason you should be taken advantage of like this.

Please text her and state the same and also inform her daughter what she has done as you took her on as per her recommendation. Tell the daughter the consequences if your money is not returned or if the work is not completed.

Also make it a point that you have been exceptionally kind, and have been disrespected and have had damage done to your property, yet you have been patient up until now. Tell the daughter that her mum has abused your kind nature and you are hurt by their actions.

Seriously, do not write this off and not chase it. Get on both of their cases, this is wrong, if they've done it to you, they could be doing it to others.

Please do stand up for yourself.

Best wishes!

Cosentyx · 30/07/2019 03:29

I agree with 15Yemen here. Good advise.

Cosentyx · 30/07/2019 03:38

Advice, sorry.

Jeremybearimybaby · 30/07/2019 04:22

I'm quite cynical, and wonder if this is a well oiled scam by mother and daughter....
I assume the money tap has now been firmly switched off, and when if she phones again with another crisis you won't be giving her any money, and will be pointing her towards her daughter who has a new lucrative career?
Lessons in life are sometimes expensive, and I agree with Yemen about pursuing it further. Not sure how successful it would be, but even the threat of it might save the next person being fleeced by her.

DCICarolJordan · 30/07/2019 04:33

I would certainly be bringing this up with the daughter and holding both accountable until I got my money back. What is to stop her setting her mother up to scam future clients?