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To think I may never get child maintenance

77 replies

Teasynurse · 29/07/2019 11:03

I have just got off the phone from the CMS again. My case has apparently been moved to yet another team and exP still isn’t talking to them or paying any money for DD. I last had a payment in October last year and since then nothing has happened. They have been discussing a deduction from earnings order since Xmas time but as yet nothing has been actioned!
I’m so frustrated, he currently owes over 12k in arrears as he has never willing paid a bean. Part of me thinks I should just close the case but this is for DD’s future. She’s almost an adult now and I have saved nearly everything I have received to give her when she needs it.

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Tzenl · 30/07/2019 20:24

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MrsTerryPratchett · 30/07/2019 20:29

90% of a people in prison

70% victims of violent crime.

Just have a little think about what those two things mean together. For women. Actually don't because I'm not reading the wall of incomprehensible 12 syllable words it would illicit.

Jasonh · 30/07/2019 20:47

Don’t understand some men. I’d rather starve than think I’d left my child in need of anything. Really shit that we don’t have custodial sentences like they do in the US for unpaid CM.

It should be Like they said in Goodfellas “oh your sick, fuck you pay me, oh your house burnt down, fuck you pay me” lol

I hope it gets resolved for you. I am happily married and live with wife and DD but Just wanted to raise the flag of the many many good men (and women) many of whom I have as close friends who contribute financially and emotionally to a child they don’t live with

Shplot · 30/07/2019 20:50

I was in the exact same boat. Every time they made a deduction of earnings order he changed jobs, every time bailiffs went round he moved house. Finally got liability order in place, it went to court and I’ve been paid for the last 6 months. Still owes about 10k in arrears but it’s something.

Shplot · 30/07/2019 20:54

Trumping the needs of both parents is that of the child
Which is why cafcass is there and they favour the theory that any father is better than no father which is why many women have to leave their children with despicable abusive men.

Tzenl · 30/07/2019 21:09

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Shplot · 30/07/2019 21:11

Tzenl in the nicest possible way you need to have therapy or something, the amount of issues you have is astonishing.

Tzenl · 30/07/2019 21:13

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Shplot · 30/07/2019 21:23

You are basing all of your anger and hatred towards women on your own experiences. I was forced to have contact with my very abusive father, I know women who have to leave their children with abusive men because of what the courts say. I also know a few men who have full custody of their kids. It may have been that courts favour the mother many years ago but that’s not how it is now

YouJustDoYou · 30/07/2019 21:25

www.fathers-4-justice.org/our-campaign/fathers-rights-help-advice-support/

I suggest you go there, @Tznel. Ranting on someone's post who was asking for advice about cm for her child is not healthy. The only reason you are doing this is because you are a very angry man who wants to take it out on women the only way he can. You say you are giving your ex thousand more than you should for your 17 year old - that is not our fault. That is your fault. Please go away and leave us alone.

Tzenl · 30/07/2019 21:58

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Tzenl · 30/07/2019 22:10

Likewise you are espousing yours.
I came to this blog not to troll, nor was it to have a go at women.
This thread showed up on my news feed.

Unusual, ive only been on here once before.

Reading the posts and their one sided view, i felt compelled to evince a different story.

B23M4 · 30/07/2019 22:12

Both the CMA and the CSA before them are appalling. Took them 8 years to get £5 a week off my DS dad and then 2weeks later he signed off benefits for 2 weeks which stopped the deduction. He signed back on benefits and they took another ryear to notice.

CMA took over and I finally, after they accidentally sent this abusive and violent man my personal details then gave me £6 a week. Only if he takes out a crisis loan or budgeting loan I don't get a penny until its paid off as the government prioritise paying themselves back over paying me. He owes me hundreds (DS is 19 soon), but they won't chase it as he is on benefits. This is despite me providing them details of his self employment, including his company back details and where he works.

As soon as DS turns 19 they won't chase a penny of the back debt. It just sits there. I'm furious.

Tzenl · 30/07/2019 22:15

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hairbyhamble · 30/07/2019 22:17

Might I suggest your own thread instead of hijacking the OP's with your obvious bile against your ex-partner @ Tzeni? Very unfair to take over someone's genuine exasperation at the lack of CMS to ensure the father of HER child/children right so pays for their upbringing.

Also, just as an aside, whereby mother's are forced to have contact and make their child have contact with abuse father's - one notable horrifying thread I recall whereby an OP's child was being sexually abused by the father was threatened with her child being removed from her custody into the abusers care - there is an extremely low bar that father's have to meet to make a judge deem contact not in the child's best interest, so I can only assume that there isn't something you are telling us.

But like I said, stop hijacking OP's thread and start your own.

OP - I went to the ombudsman and received an apology from the CSA as it was then, and a substantial payout for their incompetence. Plus ex-partner then had an attachment to earnings order enforced and finally made to pay. Don't give up Flowers

hairbyhamble · 30/07/2019 22:18

Tzenl Tue 30-Jul-19 22:15:23
Statistically women by far abuse children more than men.

Can you back up that rubbish with actual fact?

YouJustDoYou · 30/07/2019 22:19

Took them 8 years to get £5 a week off my DS dad and then 2weeks later he signed off benefits for 2 weeks which stopped the deduction. He signed back on benefits and they took another ryear to notice

Jesus ☹ It's just utterly shit, isn't it?

BananasAreTheSourceOfEvil · 30/07/2019 22:22

Tzeni's posts read like one long terrible teenage poem full of angst and all the long words they know shoved in there for good measure.

Tzenl · 30/07/2019 22:22

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YouJustDoYou · 30/07/2019 22:23

OP - I went to the ombudsman and received an apology from the CSA as it was then, and a substantial payout for their incompetence. Plus ex-partner then had an attachment to earnings order enforced and finally made to pay. Don't give up

^^This.i think this is what my friend managed to get in the end due to the then csa massively fucking up. Exh was FINALLY forced to start paying up, and they gave her small.settlement for being total incompetent fuckwits.

Tzenl · 30/07/2019 22:24

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YouJustDoYou · 30/07/2019 22:26

Like every other post on here. All moaning about there lot

*Their.

lyralalala · 30/07/2019 22:30

Like every other post on here. All moaning about there lot.

Which is exactly what you are doing...

Without any realisation that you should actually be angry with the men being mentioned on this thread. The fact that there are so many shit fathers who dodge maintenance (my father and my ex included) mean that when men start moaning about how hard done by they are I roll my eyes.

You should be posting your own thread. And supporting other wronged people. Not hijacking someone else's thread about for your woe is me rant.

hairbyhamble · 30/07/2019 22:31

Tzenl Tue 30-Jul-19 22:15:23
Statistically women by far abuse children more than men.

Can you back up that rubbish with actual fact?

Waiting Smile