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To be shocked by my friend’s outburst and wondering how to deal with it!

49 replies

ilikemethewayiam · 28/07/2019 18:51

Background: We have been friends for over 45 years, since nursery school. I considered her my lifelong best friend. We have always lived within half an hour of each other, have kids the same age, been through lots of life stages and difficulties together Inc. cancer, and see each other once a week at my house. Over the years she has become more nervous and anxious and the result is she talks incessantly without taking a breath. She interrupts constantly, finishes your sentence’s so she can start talking again, hijacks anything you start talking about, is not interest in anything you have to say, goes off on tangents etc. I’ve always taken a deep breath and tried understand as she can’t help it but its exhausting and bloody hard work. she’s always been this way to a degree but has got much worse as she’s got older. She has lost all of her other friends as a result, and neighbours avoid her at all costs as they’ll never get away. She has also become more narrow minded and bigoted too. She goes on rants about everything and everyone. She’s had 2 children but now absolutely hates kids. She always refers to them as little shits! She used to be a really sweet person but not now. She is in a miserable 30 marriage to a tight arsed, ignorant, bigoted, misogynistic man who treats her with total contempt, so I think this has something to do with it. I’ve always been supportive and sympathetic about this even though she chooses to stay. At the end of the day that’s her choice.

My DH and I were both made redundant last year so decided to bring forward our retirement and move down to the west country. We have bought our dream home. I did tell her at the time and she was really unhappy about it but didn’t actually say too much at the time. I think she dismissed it thinking it wouldn’t happen. It has taken a year due to the first house falling through but we finally exchanged contracts on our new one and complete next week. I didn’t bring it up with her again during that year as I could tell she hadn’t taken it well; However, I knew I had to tell her now as it was about to really happen. She became hysterical on the phone, saying, ‘how could you do this to me. if you expect me to say I’m happy for you, you can forget it. I’m Not!’ Then went on to name all the reason why they would not come to visit i.e. 5-hour drive, petrol costs, DH doesn’t like driving etc. I was left shell shocked. Up to this point I was sympathetic but after that comment my feelings changed and she became a stranger to me. She still came to my house the following week but refused to acknowledge it and now I’m really struggling to maintain the friendship. How could a true friend say such a thing! AIBU to cut her off after 45 years or should I be more sympathetic as she is about to lose her lifelong (and possibly only remaining) friend. The house is very rural and there is very poor phone signal so its going to be difficult to keep in touch anyway. I’m not sure if I’ve actually been overlooking her bad points and this has forced me to face that she may not actually be a very nice person after all. She’s always adored me so maybe that’s coloured my view of the real her. I’m really struggling to forgive her but wondering if I’m just not being a very understanding friend! I’m not sure how I will end it if that’s what I decide. I don’t want to ghost her as that’s unkind but she will not take it well if I try tell her no matter how sensitively I put it! I guess its more of a WWYD?

OP posts:
Thequaffle · 28/07/2019 18:54

Well, this friendship has had a very long run. Time for it to end.
Congratulations on the new home, I hope you have a really lovely retirement!

Queenioqueenio · 28/07/2019 18:56

Sounds like you’ve got a good excuse to cool this friendship now. I’d just let it drift naturally as she’s already said they’re not going to visit.

AnastasiaVonBeaverhausen · 28/07/2019 18:59

I think time will tell on this one. It sounds to me like it's run its course but I wonder if you will be able to make the break. I suspect once you move it will naturally fizzle out. Your friend is obviously very scared about you leaving and her out burst is her way of showing that - albeit in a very ill thought out and selfish way! I feel sad for her, her life obviously isn't what she'd hoped. But you know? It's not your problem. You've been there for her through it all but you can't live your life for her. Maybe you leaving will take away her security blanket and force her to make some long overdue changes to her life - she might even become a nicer person for it! But I think you should say your goodbyes and then keep contact to letters, blaming bad signal. See how it goes. And welcome to the West country! There's no where quite like it. You'll love it.

BarbariansMum · 28/07/2019 19:03

I wouldn't end the friendship because of the rant. I could understand the rant - she must be heartbroken. I would however let the friendship end due to her (longterm) self-centred and unpleasant behaviour.

VenusTiger · 28/07/2019 19:12

I wonder if her incessant chatting is because you’re the only person she gets to speak to once a week (her DH obvs doesn’t want to listen to her), so you’re a soundboard to her now and have been for some time. She is not your responsibility OP, she is your friend and therefore you shouldn’t feel any guilt in your moving away. And if she ever wants to come and stay (for a week!!!) you’ll need to stand firm from day one that she stays in a local b&b.
Go and enjoy your retirement with your DH guilt free.

Aquamarine1029 · 28/07/2019 19:16

Do you think her change in personality could be related to menopause? Some women really go off the rails.

HappyNOTdriving · 28/07/2019 19:21

I think it sounds like this is just the first time you have been on the receiving end of her.

She has consistently been vile about others over a sustained period of time getting worse as she gets older but up until now you haven't been the one to set her off, now you have she is treating you as she has so many others.

Of course the other option is she is in a shitty marriage and over the years that has worn her down and affected her world view which in turn has affected her opinions but she has been unwilling or unable to recognise that or face the truth if she has and now the only person she has left out with that is moving away and she has had a reaction to it.

Whichever one though she has no right to be nasty to her friend of over 45 years!

Enjoy your retirement.

TeeniefaeTroon · 28/07/2019 19:25

Have you posted about this before? It sounds familiar.
She is obviously devastated that you're going and has let her mouth run away with her. If she has no other friends and a miserable marriage then I think it's understandable (but not really your problem). Hopefully once she gets used to idea you can continue a long distance friendship.

Does she have internet? I've got 4 close friends and even though we all live close to each other we're all busy so just touch base and keep in touch through a 'secret' Facebook group.

Nautiloid · 28/07/2019 19:26

A close friend of mine became exactly as you describe after having her first child. She'd always been a bit like it, but it just went to extremes. 15 years down the line she's still the same. Similar marriage too although her DH is a very high earner with no problem with spending or driving!
I couldn't hack it, I'm ashamed to say. We'd only been good friends for about five years and I let things cool off.
I think this may happen naturally with your move. I do understand her sadness but you can't design your life around a friend.

Mummyoflittledragon · 28/07/2019 19:27

You are not a therapist. She has been treating you as one. You can choose to cool the friendship or stop it. Probably easier for the time being to cool it. You don’t have a choice anyway.

RosaWaiting · 28/07/2019 19:32

With a friendship that was good, I would want to talk it over with them.

But I am not sure if you feel the friendship is good. I think sometimes you can chug along without realising that someone has become less of a friend.

She must be really unhappy to say what she said but I appreciate that’s not for you but possibly a therapist.

sonjadog · 28/07/2019 19:33

I wouldn't make a big statement about it, but I would let the friendship cool naturally after the move. Get it down to exchanging Christmas cards with news level.

Ragwort · 28/07/2019 19:34

I have a few friends that I have known ‘forever’ ie; one I met at nursery school & we are both now over 60 Grin. I often think that if we met now we just wouldn’t become friends but we stick together because of our ‘history’. My DM says the same about some of her old friends & they are all in their late 80s!

I would let things cool a little & then maybe invite her to visit in your new home ... maybe she is secretly jealous, I have friends who are retired and lead a very comfortable life whilst I (not complaining, just stating facts) work for barely more than minimum wage. Over the years we’ve all had good times and bad, but managed to stick together as friends but recognise that circumstances vary hugely.

Sunburntnoseandears · 28/07/2019 19:37

I moved even closer to my bff. She still refused to drive that far.
Was less than 10 mins away. Even had my dh collect and drop her off after I had my ds by emcs and left me home alone with other dc because she wouldn't drive...
Her refusal to drive ruined my hen night. I moved 45 mins away and she has been here once. Friendship drifted very rapidly. Been nc for 4 years soon.... New home =new friends op...
Congratulations on your new abode!

Sicario · 28/07/2019 19:40

Sounds like you'll be getting away from her just in time... Enjoy your retirement!

sockatoe · 28/07/2019 19:40

Wow. She really has a lot to lose when you move, hence her outburst. You less so, you're moving on to the next stage of your life, full of happiness and positivity. It sounds like perhaps you are the only positivity in hers. By all means, accept that this friendship may have run its course and in the very least, will change. Out of love for what was, is there anything you can do to ease the transition for her? Are her kids involved in her life much? Could you go to some social clubs/classes with her near her before you go to help her find a new social scene?
All the best with your move and exciting new beginnings!

Flupibass · 28/07/2019 19:41

I don’t think you need do anything because by moving so far away the friendship will naturally fizzle out. You couldn’t possibly see each other weekly and it sounds like she won’t visit without her dh and you won’t want him ! I shouldn’t get trapped into long phone conversations if you manage to get a signal. Just move and email?

SaraNade · 28/07/2019 19:49

I think your friend is quite selfish and clearly can't see that she is pushing everyone away. She has just shown her true colours to you. I think you are better off without her as a friend.

I must say though I am confused why you would deliberately choose to move somewhere with very poor phone signal. That seems a very odd thing to do. Especially if you are nearing retirement age. One day you may have a medical emergency and need to call for help. It's not really the stage of your life that you should be moving to a remote location with very poor phone reception.

TatianaLarina · 28/07/2019 19:57

It sounds like she’s totally panicked and attacking you because she can’t cope with the idea of losing you. It sounds like you’re her lifeline. Whether you want to continue to be her lifeline is the question. But personally I’d try to be the bigger person.

The distance and the rural location will largely protect you from her. So I’d send her Christmas and birthday cards and leave it at that.

And get a landline! Poor phone reception will drive you nuts.

Belenus · 28/07/2019 19:59

I would leave the door open on the friendship but no more than that. Let her know where you're going and how to stay in touch. She sounds very unhappy and much of that may be down to her marriage. As pp have said she is not your responsibility. One day she may need a friend and need a bolt hole if she gets away from her husband. But move with a clear conscience and let her be.

bobsyourauntie · 28/07/2019 20:05

I can understand her being upset OP. Last year one of my good friend/neighbour moved away and this year the other one is. I feel devastated, sad, abandoned, left behind and friendless. Yes we will still be friends, but it won't be the same because they won't be there to pop across the road etc. No impromptu bbq's or bottles of wine, it's very hard for me after 10 years and my DD growing up with their DC.

But I don't expect my friends to live their life for me and you have to do what is right for you. I think you need to explain to your friend how you plan to keep in touch via messaging or whatever and say that it will be great to chat on the phone etc, I presume that you can get a landline where signal isn't a problem?

Find out where the nearest station is, tell her you can pick her up from there, arrange a first visit now, there is lots of things you can do to help make this easier for her. However if you don't want to be her friend any more, then be honest with her and make a clean break.

My friend moved to a house with a poor signal, non existent in fact, but she has a landline and broadband, which means that things like Messenger and other apps still work...... I guess you can get broadband where you are, although some areas have bad phone lines and still aren't fibre optic......

I have gone to stay with my friends and stay in regular contact so of course it is doable, she is just suffering from panic.

Boysey45 · 28/07/2019 20:08

As you wont be seeing her anyway things will come to a natural end.I wouldn't worry too much, its upto her to start doing new things and meeting new people. Sounds like she has depression to be that bad, though I know loads of people who are only interested in themselves, its really common.

Butchyrestingface · 28/07/2019 20:09

I wouldn't end the friendship because of the rant. I could understand the rant - she must be heartbroken. I would however let the friendship end due to her (longterm) self-centred and unpleasant behaviour.

Agree with this. The rant sounds very vanilla in the grand scheme of things and no doubt born from a place of panic. Her marriage sounds shit. She's lost all her friends. Her neighbours run a mile. Her bad, of course, but I doubt that makes it feel any better. 🤷‍♀

The house is very rural and there is very poor phone signal so its going to be difficult to keep in touch anyway.

How exactly are you planning to stay in touch with people not her?

Belenus · 28/07/2019 20:20

We have broadband in the west country, and landlines. It's rural, it's not the 19th century. OK the broadband isn't fast enough to watch films and mobile signals can be dependent on how near to a mast you are but don't be thinking these are bad things. Sometimes it's nice to be able to say "nope, your email is not here, nope, cannot get email on my phone, no, no, no, just phone the landline like it's 1992".

RavenLG · 28/07/2019 20:26

DPs childhood friend moved around 5 hours away. We don’t visit a lot but we try as a couple at least 2 times a year, and him another couple of times maybe. Doesn’t cost that much in petrol, yes it’s a long drive but it’s nice to catch up and see them. They come here too, and stay with us ir his family. Sorry your friend is an arsehole.

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