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To be shocked by my friend’s outburst and wondering how to deal with it!

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ilikemethewayiam · 28/07/2019 18:51

Background: We have been friends for over 45 years, since nursery school. I considered her my lifelong best friend. We have always lived within half an hour of each other, have kids the same age, been through lots of life stages and difficulties together Inc. cancer, and see each other once a week at my house. Over the years she has become more nervous and anxious and the result is she talks incessantly without taking a breath. She interrupts constantly, finishes your sentence’s so she can start talking again, hijacks anything you start talking about, is not interest in anything you have to say, goes off on tangents etc. I’ve always taken a deep breath and tried understand as she can’t help it but its exhausting and bloody hard work. she’s always been this way to a degree but has got much worse as she’s got older. She has lost all of her other friends as a result, and neighbours avoid her at all costs as they’ll never get away. She has also become more narrow minded and bigoted too. She goes on rants about everything and everyone. She’s had 2 children but now absolutely hates kids. She always refers to them as little shits! She used to be a really sweet person but not now. She is in a miserable 30 marriage to a tight arsed, ignorant, bigoted, misogynistic man who treats her with total contempt, so I think this has something to do with it. I’ve always been supportive and sympathetic about this even though she chooses to stay. At the end of the day that’s her choice.

My DH and I were both made redundant last year so decided to bring forward our retirement and move down to the west country. We have bought our dream home. I did tell her at the time and she was really unhappy about it but didn’t actually say too much at the time. I think she dismissed it thinking it wouldn’t happen. It has taken a year due to the first house falling through but we finally exchanged contracts on our new one and complete next week. I didn’t bring it up with her again during that year as I could tell she hadn’t taken it well; However, I knew I had to tell her now as it was about to really happen. She became hysterical on the phone, saying, ‘how could you do this to me. if you expect me to say I’m happy for you, you can forget it. I’m Not!’ Then went on to name all the reason why they would not come to visit i.e. 5-hour drive, petrol costs, DH doesn’t like driving etc. I was left shell shocked. Up to this point I was sympathetic but after that comment my feelings changed and she became a stranger to me. She still came to my house the following week but refused to acknowledge it and now I’m really struggling to maintain the friendship. How could a true friend say such a thing! AIBU to cut her off after 45 years or should I be more sympathetic as she is about to lose her lifelong (and possibly only remaining) friend. The house is very rural and there is very poor phone signal so its going to be difficult to keep in touch anyway. I’m not sure if I’ve actually been overlooking her bad points and this has forced me to face that she may not actually be a very nice person after all. She’s always adored me so maybe that’s coloured my view of the real her. I’m really struggling to forgive her but wondering if I’m just not being a very understanding friend! I’m not sure how I will end it if that’s what I decide. I don’t want to ghost her as that’s unkind but she will not take it well if I try tell her no matter how sensitively I put it! I guess its more of a WWYD?

OP posts:
ilikemethewayiam · 28/07/2019 20:40

Thanks for all your kind wishes for our move! we are so excited about it and can't wait to get going. we should be there in the next 3 weeks. We should hopefully get some late summer weather before we set to work on the house.

On the issue of the poor signal, its going to be hard for me coming from an IT background but hey ho, we'll just have to use the old fashioned method of using a landline! Apparently if you go upstairs and wave the mobile around you can sometimes get a signal Lol!

I agree that the friendship will probably fizzle out so i'm not going to have a conversation with her. i'm going to keep the door open and hope that she finds other friends to support her. She might learn to be more independent which might lead to a more balanced friendship if we do keep in contact. I think i will just have to be forgiving of her little outburst.

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BlueJava · 28/07/2019 20:43

Enjoy your retirement and good luck with the move! I think it would be a good time to cool the friendship. I think perhaps you have overlooked her many shortcomings - it's time to move on.

GhostRidersInDisguise · 28/07/2019 20:44

Have a bit of a think about the friendship as it sounds to me like you have an image of it that isn't real at all. You have done all the work to keep it on track. I would let it go now.

I have fallen into the same trap as you OP. I had a certain view of a family member for many years. I have defended her to other family members because of this view but recently I spent a lot more time with this person than I ever have and by Christ I can see what they see. On analysing it I had a romanticised image of her personality (she was kind to my Mum) but she is a nasty bastard and I now know this.

Lllot5 · 28/07/2019 20:50

Like pp have said I think this friendship will probably fizzle out once you move any way.
I’m very jealous would love to ‘go west’. Good luck and enjoy your retirement.

Rosia8608 · 28/07/2019 20:52

Sometimes friendships just become habitual. I appreciate that you've known this woman for basically all of your life. However, you're moving on and whilst I get that she'll miss you, she should be thrilled for you. Enjoy this new chapter in your life!

ilikemethewayiam · 28/07/2019 20:53

@Aquamarine1029 You could have a point about menopause. That could definitely play a part in why she's more nervy and anxious. The timeline kind of matches her worsening symptoms. It could also be a reason why I have less patience Grin

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musicposy · 28/07/2019 20:56

I think that's a sensible response; you've nothing to lose by being forgiving as distance is going to cool the friendship anyway.

I kind of get why she was so upset. I have a group of friends I've known since primary and early secondary school and we are now in our 50s. The thought of one of them getting ill and not being there terrifies me and I have a very happy and fulfilling life aside from them. It's just all that history, and the fact that staying together makes you feel nothing has changed since you were five and the world is a safe place. I think they feel the same too; I breezily mentioned that we'd been looking at property the other end of the country (1/3 of the price, we could retire now and live on the rest for a long time, it's tempting) and the most independent and confident of my friends was quite noticeably upset. She said "but you'd miss all of us and it's a really long way; we'd hardly ever see you".

So I get it in a way. Your friend is probably terrified and handling that fear very badly, hoping that if she makes enough fuss you won't go. But you don't owe anyone else - you have to do what makes you happy. I'd enjoy your lovely new life, and leave the door open for her. Not having you there as a crutch might just be the shake up she needs.

Aquamarine1029 · 28/07/2019 21:03

@ilikemethewayiam

When I mentioned menopause, I should have clarified that it in no way excuses her shit behaviour, but it could definitely be a factor. If she is struggling with other areas of her life, menopause could make everything go nuclear.

Silvercatowner · 28/07/2019 21:04

hey ho, we'll just have to use the old fashioned method of using a landline! Apparently if you go upstairs and wave the mobile around you can sometimes get a signal Lol!

But surely you'll make calls at home using your wifi??

ilikemethewayiam · 28/07/2019 21:05

@GhostRidersInDisguise You could well be right. People over the years have told me what a self absorbed pain in the butt she is which is why they avoid her but i've always magnified the good in her and ignored that side of her.

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ilikemethewayiam · 28/07/2019 21:13

@Silvercatowner

But surely you'll make calls at home using your wifi??

Indeed we will. BT have just put superfast BB in at the end of the road but i doubt the infrastructure is there from the box to the house. Hopefully it will be good enough for WiFi and FT calls. I tend to talk to my Mum via FT so i'm hoping i still can.

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mathanxiety · 28/07/2019 21:21

When I was reading the first half of your OP I thought you were asking advice on how to stop the weekly visits and cut this angry pita out of your life.

Congratulations on the new chapter in your life. Hope your new house is everything you wish for and also that your signal will never improve.

Maybe the two of you will discover the delights of Facebook?

JontyDoggle37 · 28/07/2019 21:24

You’re the only friend she has left, she has anxiety, and you’ve told her you’re leaving. Of course she would react badly. She’s going to miss you horribly and now be even more trapped in her horrible marriage. She’s reacting negatively because it’s the only way she knows how. I would try to offer patience and understanding of you can.

pamplemoussed · 28/07/2019 21:28

I find this very odd indeed:
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How can you plan such a life changing move, see your oldest lifelong friend every week and NOT mention it? She does sound difficult but she is probably very shocked indeed and may even feel like you have done this almost in secret. It is very harsh on her too.

PickAChew · 28/07/2019 21:28

I think she's been getting more out of this friendship than you have, for a long time. Hopefully, rather than blame you for the coming changes, which i expect she feels somewhat bereaved by, she'll be able to examine just why she was so upset by the change and try to find a way out of her mess.

That's all for her to be doing, though.

letsdolunch321 · 28/07/2019 21:57

Oh dear your friend is not happy, she sounds like a negative person. Leave her be, whatever happens in her world will all be negative. Hurtful
as it is do what others have suggested cool off the friendship. If she messages you after moving message back and be civil. She is putting obstacles in the way not to come and visit 😕

Congratulations to you and hubby for finding a new home that will create a new chapter and happy memories fir you both 💐

Ragwort · 28/07/2019 22:08

How quaint to think that those of us with poor mobile reception etc can’t keep in touch with friends .... there are still landlines available Hmm, it’s not like the 1970s where we had ‘party lines’ (remember them?) and queued for the pay phones when we were students making our weekly calls home Grin.

Nautiloid · 29/07/2019 06:05

@pamplemoussed makes a good point actually. Do you think she could have not realised it was happening... genuinely thought you'd changed your minds?

stayathomer · 29/07/2019 06:13

I’m not sure if I’ve actually been overlooking her bad points OP you've listed them all, said she's hard work etc. It sounds like you're not even friends and you put up with her which nobody needs. I think you should let this end for both of your sakes

Oblomov19 · 29/07/2019 06:34

Some people value old friendships and the safety it gives you. A pp mentioned that it gives her the security of feeling as though nothing has changed since she was 5.

But OP doesn't feel that way. So as others have said, this will just die, fizzle out naturally.

Weirdwonders · 29/07/2019 06:56

I don’t think you sound very sympathetic. You clearly don’t like her. She’s stuck in a marriage to a man that doesn’t sound very nice, you’re moving on to your better life so I guess this is an easy point to ditch your friend because of her rant, which to me sounds like she’s panicking. It’s up to you really isn’t it? But for the record - I’ve moved to the West Country and I’ve really missed my friends. So maybe don’t burn your bridges just yet, you don’t know whether you might need her as much as she needs you.

JemimaPuddlePeacock · 29/07/2019 06:59

You posted about this quite a while ago didn’t you? Are you the same person?

zafferana · 29/07/2019 07:14

Do you think her change in personality could be related to menopause? Some women really go off the rails.

Yes, I wondered this too. This woman is presumably around 50 years old, it would fit. My DM was pretty vile for the 10 years around her menopause (though not as bad as your friend - my DM managed to keep her friends even if she was awful to live with). If you do still care about this woman at all I'd urge her to go and see her GP as she seems very unhappy indeed.

Booboo66 · 29/07/2019 08:42

I think the move will help it naturally cool off without the need for you to make any official decisions/statements. Sounds like the best thing all round. I advise not giving her the landline number as it's likely you'll get caught on the phone for hours just listening and not getting a word in. Use the poor signal as an excuse and stick to email contact. Good luck with the move, sounds lovely!

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