Who is BU?

[Gogreen]

3 neighbours in a terrace.

Neighbour 1,2,3.
Neighbour 1 has lived here the longest, a couple, no children, no pets.
Neighbour 2, couple with 2 children and pets.
Neighbour 3, couple with 3 children and pets.

Neighbours 2&3 have noisy hot tubs when the bubbles are on and noisy children. Pets make no noise in either house.

Neighbour one complains to neighbour 2, that it’s noisy with music, bubbles,children as it didn’t all stop until 8:30pm on a Thursday.

Neighbour 3 has bubbles on that are loud until 10pm with kids in garden because school holidays on the same day.

neighbour 2 doesn’t complain to neighbour 3.
No neighbours had work the next day as they don’t work, except neighbours 2. So no early mornings for neighbours 1&3.

Whose being unreasonable?
Do neighbours 1 have the right to complain for noise that stopped at 8:30?
Should neighbours 2 complain to neighbour 3?
Should neighbour 1 also complain to number 3?

Ta.

I understand some of you replying about how it would affect your mental health, or your child, but these circumstances don’t apply in this case.

2 and 3 are much preferable to the sweary loud arguments that go on in the houses behind us. Dr7g and alcohol fuelled at any hour of the day. Unfortunately we can't afford to move as our house isn't worth much now.

Drug*

We was just a bit miffed they classed 8:30 as late

Why were you miffed? They weren't complaining about you!

Maybe neighbours 1 can't hear you as they are further away but right next door to neighbours 2.

Just because they dont work doesnt mean they dont mind the noise.
Just because it was a hot day, doesnt make it acceptable to play music and be loud until 10pm. If anything, you knew what you were doing and that people would have their windows open.
Just because you have school age kids, the excuse of 'the summer holidays' doesnt mean what your doing isnt incosiderate and annoying.
Just because it suits you, doesnt mean neighbour 1 shouldnt have complained.
YABU by being the ones playing music and being inconsideratly loud on a week night. Just because people dont work, doesnt mean they dont have to be up for something.
Your post is infuriating. I hate neighbours like you to be honest.

I think you’ve read the post wrong. No one complained about us, neighbour 1 complained about neighbour 2 who shut the music and bubbles off at 8:30, not 10pm.
They also didn’t need to be up for anything.

Also summer holidays does mean something, as children are not in school...children playing in their own garden outside is not inconsiderate....it’s the summer and they are children. No complaints were made about the children at all, but obviously children can be noisy.

If you are neighbour 3 i would just try to be a bit more considerate to the other neighbours. Same goes for neighbour 2.
Yeah you have kids. Yeah the make noise
But there is a difference between kids making noise or kids being noisy

@isobelRae23 you should get a fan
Or earplugs. Because you can't always control neighbouring noises but you can control how to deal with it. Speaking from a mh background

Neighbour 3 has bubbles on that are loud until 10pm with kids in garden because school holidays on the same day.

Youve just said you are neighbour 3 sooo
Children playing in their own garden is not incosiderate, no, but until 10pm and your reason being because uts the summer hols is inconsiderate. The world doesnt stop because your kids dont have school. When ive next got annual leave, i'll stand in my garden shreiking with some gangsta rap on and expect everyone to be ok with it because IM on annual leave shall i? No, because im not an arsehole. I think youre out of touch with how the world works day to day if you think thats ok because you dont have work and school

Personally you all need to get into the hot tubs and chill out!!!

It's the summer, kids will be up later. So long as there's no noise after say 11pm then what's the drama?

Yes i agree. We are all considerate to each other and all get along. Obviously now and again we upset each other but I think that’s normal.

The kids wasn’t the issue by the way with regards to the complaint. It was music and bubbles and that 8;30 was too late for it to stop.

We stopped at 10, but was a one off and our neighbours really don’t mind, they are very easy and laid back, happy go lucky which is why I think they were abit shocked about it.

No argument has been had, just a eye brow raise from neighbour 2. And I wanted random people’s opinions too.

Thank you to everyone who took time to reply.

N1 was being a bit unreasonable wanting no noise at 8.30pm . But N3 is being totally unreasonble still having kids playing & music on past 10pm (as I expect as N3 is you OP the noise was going on past 10pm.

Also, do you work at all N3, or just not the next day....?

Thegrace.

I think your missing what I’m saying.

Holidays is 6 weeks in the year. So the other 46 weeks of the year most kids are not in the garden gone past 6pm..other than the 6 weeks holiday as it falls in summer when the weather is better enough to be outside.

No one is at work, (apart from neighbours 2) no one needed to be up for anything or went anywhere this morning (apart from neighbours 2)

I find it Inconsiderate you don’t think children should have just a few weeks fun a year...do they not count?

The complaint was NOT about the kids. The kids are fine....you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about the children playing out?

Next week, everyone has work, so after 7 everything will be quite. Today they didn’t have work, so we stayed up late knowing it was ok.

The pets are not noisy?

10.00pm is too late IMO.

Neighbour 1 doesn’t work due to a non fault accident. Neighbour 2 both work. Us, neighbour 3, one is disabled the other works part time but didn’t have work today.

Neighbour 2 works shifts, so sometimes a weekend party can be a nuisance to them (not that they ever complain but again, we’re not noisy it was a one off) but one on say Tuesday night, could be fine..due to their shift pattern.

Chic, they really are not, mines very old, and doesn’t bark at all, very very docile. Their dog is ok too, just don’t hear it, their active with it though and take it everywhere! Their dog goes out more than we do.

They have cats too, but secured their garden as the cats kept annoying neighbour 1. That’s fair though, no one wants cat poo in their garden.

On the face of it, no one is unreasonable.

How noisy were you? How loud was the music? Were the children screeching, shouting or were they just talking?

The level of noise makes a difference. There's noise that can be acceptable and then there's loud noise that isn't acceptable...one off or not.

They can, just not so late at night. Other peoples lives dont stop because the kids are on hols. Use it as an oppertunity to teach kids about being considerate of others.
Noisey neighbours piss me off because some of us have babies and work. Youre only considering the 3 in your row, not the rest of the street, or the street your garden backs onto (if applicable). I highly doubt your row of 3 is the only houses around but youve just dismissed everyone else.
Did you check if anyone had to be up for anything? Im guessing not, so you dont know that no one had to be up for anything for sure.
Whats happened here is youve posted something which you know is unreasonable, made the mistake of saying which neighbour you were which happened to be the worst one and now you dont like he replys your getting. The way you have worded your op is to ask which set neighbour 1 should be annoyed about when really, what youre getting at is who is being unreasonable, and you dont like that the answer is you. This is demonstrated in your replies to people.

They have the right to complain about anything they like , but it doesn't make their complaint valid
8.30 pm is not late , you also have the right to enjoy your garden
You only complain to number 3 if their actions are unreasonable not because number 1 has made a complaint to you

The grace, your missing the point once again, have you actually read my post?? I’m guessing not.

No issue with us, and it wasn’t a mistake me saying I’m neighbour 3. We’ve had no complaints. Neighbour 2 was absolutely fine with us having the bubbles on and the kids in the garden (we didn’t have music on)

My post was mainly to see if people thought neighbours 2 got it in the ear abit as there the only ones that had work, and stopped all noise at 8:30 anyway

I think they did get it in the ear and it was unfair that neighbour 1 complained to them.

We all get on and talk, they didn’t have anywhere to go or nothing to do, so yes..I do know that!

Also, the kids are very considerate, both mine and neighbours 2 thank you very much!!! The kids have never ever been a reason of complaint and are all lovely children and every neighbour gets on with everyone else’s children.

Also we are the only neighbours as the other house is empty and we are on a dead end side road, so even through we’re a terrace, we don’t have neighbours over the road as it’s brick walls... can you stop assuming every single detail and actually read the post before you comment again, as you really are way off.

I don’t mean to sound rude but your coming up with all these things that are so far off they are pointless and no relevance.

Wait for it....it gets worse!!

The noise was made by the husband, he had 2 friends around, and it was them with the bubbles and music. Wife at work and kids were out for the afternoon- evening at her mothers and stayed there for the night. Wife came home this morning and that’s when the neighbour knocked.

So kids out, husband in 😂 and she had to answer the door to the neighbour having no idea about it before he knocked and said.

Now I feel even more sorry for her!! 😂

know families are noisy compared to a single couple living alone

So a "single couple" has no right to quiet? Your right to make noise is more important because you have children?

YABU

Nobody and I repeat NOBODY should be playing music and running a hot tub with loud bubbles at 10pm and using its summer and very hot as an excuse.

I may not come round and rant if you were my neighbour but you'd go down in my estimation.

I just can't abide people that see hot weather as some excuse to play music in their gardens.

Also summer holidays does mean something, as children are not in school...children playing in their own garden outside is not inconsiderate....it’s the summer and they are children

In the daytime, yes you would expect more noise from kids in the summer holidays, but there's nothing about it being the holidays that makes it more reasonable to be loud late at night. They wouldn't be at school at that time anyway.

You said it's a one off so I would just let it slide, but I do think it's wrong to say the summer holidays makes it ok to be loud outside at 10pm. Neighbour 1 could probably hear noise from both gardens btw without telling the difference, so though they didn't complain to you they were probably complaining about you.

Luckily we’re far enough apart not to have intrusive noise from neighbours but if I lived in a terrace I’d be thinking music blasting out in a garden was wholly unacceptable regardless of the time. The very odd occasion maybe, with prior warning and a bottle of wine to neighbours but generally music should only be heard by those who are choosing to listen.
Children can be noisy but should be required to be considerate past about 6pm with no shrieking or shouting. Too much noise they should come inside. Why should anyone have to tolerate disturbed evenings? Hot tubs aren’t that noisy if people are just sitting talking quietly. I’m guessing that’s not what request for quiet was about though.

*OhtheHillsareAlive

know families are noisy compared to a single couple living alone

So a "single couple" has no right to quiet? Your right to make noise is more important because you have children?

YABU*

Actually, I think this might be the problem, it is always quite around here, so even one offs seem to be a nuisance because everyone is so used to it being quite.
We’re also on a dead end road, so don’t even have traffic noise.

So actually, if your statement was reversed it would be more right.

I still think 8:30 is not late, is at 10pm yes, but not them at 8:30.