Who are the ‘ranty far left’?

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On the Boris thread there is reference to the ranty far left. I can’t think who they are or what they say? Maybe this is because I am one of them?!

If your stereotypical far-right ranter goes on about making Britain ‘british’ again, PC gone mad, health and safety gone mad, brussels red tape, rule britania sovreignity forever, family values etc etc

... what is it that ‘hard left’ say that right wingers take issue with?

I think it probably refers to the virtue signalling lefty types who belittle anyone who thinks differently from them.

Treating people in a fair and equal manner - seems to really piss them off!

The right wingers that is. . .

Anything not agreeing with Boris/Farage?

Anyone who thinks Boris is a charlatan or a deceitful windbag is 'far left'.

Apparently.

Go on Twitter to review how the Panorama expose of Anti-semitism in the Labour party went down. You'll find loads of Momentum ranty hard-left extremists. You'll also find blatant anti-semitism.

I think it probably refers to the virtue signalling lefty types who belittle anyone who thinks differently from them.

Like the pp who called Remainders deranged? Oh, wait...

I feel a bit rangy sometimes. About inequality mainly. About people blaming the disabled for not being able to work or needing reasonable adjustments and some top up benefits. About schooling depending on your ability to pay to move house. About addiction and health inequality. About society generally lacking compassion.
Yep. I can rant all right.

A term usually used by people who are upset they can’t express racist/homophobic/misogynistic/classist/xenophobic views without being pulled up on it.

Its usually aimed at people who need to point out how tolerant and accepting they are. That is until you dare have a different view/opinion to them.

I think it refers to the (as pp said) virtue signalling lefty types who call everyone who doesn't agree with them a bigot, an -ist or a -phobe.

Only ever about things that don't directly impact them though...

I don’t get the ‘virtue signalling’ accusation at all.
It seems to translate as “Stop going on about occupying the moral high ground”
Which basically acknowledges that the virtue-signallers are correct (albeit annoying) ?

There are loads of them OP. I foolishly joined a few Facebook groups which I thought were forums for discussions about socialism (I'm a socialist, hence doing so) and found myself surrounded by them screaming about how the government are literal murderers, anyone who doesn't agree with them is a racist fascist who is simultaneously a supporter of Zionist supremacy, no one who has no stake in oppression bingo has any business commenting on anything at all (quite amusing seeing the contortions people get into to prove said oppression), anyone who doesn't think Corbyn is an actual Messiah should be drummed out of the party but ofc religion itself is inherently fascist and only adhered to by the blinkered and simple minded ... All with an overtone of aggression, entitlement and, yes, intolerance. It was quite the eye opener.

From memory (I left them all long ago), if you really want to see this kind of behaviour in action I'd suggest joining FB groups like 'red labour', 'we support Jeremy Corbyn' and 'the Tony Benn appreciation society'.

Thanks @Fuma that’s really interesting I’ll check them out.

Woolly soap dodging tree hugging Vegans that fight against prejudice and inequality unless the prejudice and inequality is aimed at Jews or the poor working classes who they consider ‘gammon’ and ‘thick’.

Oh and far from being mere keyboard warriors, the people on these groups are active labour party members who campaign at local level to get rid of councillors and even in some instances MPs who don't subscribe to their version of aggressive wokeness. When Red Labour started off its stated aim was to place hard left members into local politics. This was the beginnings of Momentum.

Virtue signalling is not occupying the moral highground

@missgiddypants What is it then? Because to me being virtuous means being good? And signalling means just showing off about it? So if you call somebody out for virtue-signalling you have to acknowledge on some level that they are right??

I don’t get the ‘virtue signalling’ accusation at all.

What I mean by it is when you get (for example) people who are vocal about the rights of immigrants and refugees entering the country, whilst knowing damn well that it's not going to be their doctors who have to take on the patients so they can't get an appointment or their children's education taking a back seat while the school has to blow its budget on extra support for the children who join them.

The minute the "gypsies" set up camp on the local park however....

I think you have misunderstood virtue signalling OP

What Milk said.

I take it to mean people who can say certain things but are not in a position to need to worry about them.

FastandCurious Your post is an examplar of right wing hyperbole at its most ridiculous and poisonous.

So hypocrites?
Thing is though, does anyone know that it won’t be their shool or surgery that’s affected? I can’t think how anyone might campain for a
national issue while knowing it wouldn’t affect them?

Your post is an examplar of right wing hyperbole at its most ridiculous and poisonous

That response is a perfect example of someone who thinks everyone who isn’t left wing must be a right winger.

As a black woman it never ceases to amaze me that these people who so ferociously claim to ‘fight against racism’ actually have no friends other than their white toff friends who try to talk to me about their fucking white dreadlocks like it’s going to make us bond. They have no idea about racism and when they get chatting their own racism comes shining through albeit dressed up in fluffy patronising speak.

It’s not hyperbole, these are the people in my face most days in London. You sound like one of them.

When I think off the far left I think of arseholes like Matthew Harrison
And his comments about Simon Weston back in 2016.