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Who pays what?

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ifoundthebread · 15/07/2019 20:06

As the title suggests. Who pays what in this scenario.

A lends an item off B to be used during an alcohol fuelled 21st birthday party. C breaks this item while drunk. B tells A item cost £100 when it was bought, C gives A £100 to order a new one to give back to B. Item is no longer available and closest one found is £150. Should C cough up the extra £50 to buy a replacement or has C payed enough as that is what the broken item was worth.

OP posts:
19lottie82 · 15/07/2019 20:09

Lends an item off? Do you mean borrowed?

Lazypuppy · 15/07/2019 20:09

What does lends an item off mean? Does it mean borrow?

ShirleyPhallus · 15/07/2019 20:10

£100

What was the item?

VivienneHolt · 15/07/2019 20:11

Assuming A was the one who borrowed the item, I think they should make up the shortfall and pay the remaining £50 to get a new one.

TixieLix · 15/07/2019 20:11

I wouldn't pay more than £100. Unless the item was brand spanking new it would have depreciated. C has done the honourable thing in paying the full purchase amount back to A. A could claim on their insurance for a replacement and the £100 should cover their excess.

Bookworm4 · 15/07/2019 20:12

Ffs ‘lends an item from’?!?
A borrowed an item from B or B loaned A an item.

Bluntness100 · 15/07/2019 20:12

I think if I was b in this instance I'd pay rhe additional fifty myself. It was an accident that c broke it.

And what's with the phrasing police out today? It's very clear she means borrowed. Stop being petty.

Thingsdogetbetter · 15/07/2019 20:12

What the hell was A thinking borrowing a £100 item to be used at a drink fuelled party? Did B know what it was going to be used at? If they did, they are an idiot too.

Responsibly really lies with the person who borrowed it to take care of it. C has paid up as asked, A should pay the rest.

CharityConundrum · 15/07/2019 20:14

Are there any secondhand versions for £100?

forkfun · 15/07/2019 20:14

If A borrowed the item, I think A is responsible for replacing it. They need to sort out if/how they get the money off C.

SavoyCabbage · 15/07/2019 20:15

I wouldn't borrow something that was so expensive for a drunken party without expecting that I would have to replace it if it got broken.

Lazypuppy · 15/07/2019 20:15

@Bluntness100

And what's with the phrasing police out today? It's very clear she means borrowed. Stop being petty.

Maybe to you, but i have never heard that phrase before, and it is not correct, as a pp said.

PurpleDaisies · 15/07/2019 20:16

C needs to replace the item because they were the one that broke it. They need to pay whatever it cost.

DontFundHate · 15/07/2019 20:16

I think A and C could split the difference and pay £25 extra each to keep the peace

Youngandfree · 15/07/2019 20:17

“Lends an item off” 🤦‍♀️

CruellaFeinberg · 15/07/2019 20:18

A borrowed X from B, and C broke it?

C broke it, and needs to give enough money to B to put them in the place they were before. If C cant/wont - then A needs to stump up the remainder

doesn't matter about depreciation, B is the only loser here

constantlyseekinghappiness · 15/07/2019 20:19

I had to read that far too many times to understand what was happening.

“Lends an item off” Hmm

Terrifiedandregretful · 15/07/2019 20:21

'Lends an item off' is standard north east dialect. Are you a Geordie op? I think stumping up the extra £50 would be the ethical thing to do, assuming a cheaper version really can't be found.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 15/07/2019 20:25

B has effectively been refunded. I don't think they can expect another £50.

Several areas use "lends" in this way. It's a bit of a colloquialism. It's clear what was meant. The pretending to not know what it means is quite bizarre.

PurpleDaisies · 15/07/2019 20:27

B has effectively been refunded. I don't think they can expect another £50.

B doesn’t need a refund. She needs a replacement for the broken item. If that costs an extra £50, that’s what needs to be found by the person that broke it.

ifoundthebread · 15/07/2019 20:27

Okay my bad. Sorry to anyone I offended with my mistake. Yes I am from the North East.

OP posts:
PurpleDaisies · 15/07/2019 20:28

Which person are you?

Bluntness100 · 15/07/2019 20:28

Maybe to you, but i have never heard that phrase before, and it is not correct, as a pp said

Yes it's not correct, but really what's the point of everyone sticking it to her, it's very clear what she means.

SagAloojah · 15/07/2019 20:31

Pretty obvious OP meant 'borrowed'. Are we trying to sanitise MN so only people with the 'correct' way of speaking can post?

OP, it really depends on what the item is, how old it was, whether a second hand version is available. Whilst B should receive a replacement, tey shouldn't get £150 for something that was old, for example.

malmi · 15/07/2019 20:35

"Lend" for "Borrow" is not wrong per se, it's just a long-standing regional variation which confuses people who've not heard it used that way. It's listed on the Wikipedia page for Northumbrian dialect en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northumbrian_dialect

You also get "learn" or "larn" meaning "teach" ("She learnt me to play the piano") although that one has a different origin, the same one as the German word lehren, meaning teach.

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