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Paternal grandmother dilemma

43 replies

Pcosmum88 · 13/07/2019 18:14

So this is my first thread as I have come to the end of my tether with DD’s grandmother on her dads side.

I’m going to just give facts so people can give unbiased opinions and advice.

In April this year DD was 5 months old. We went to visit his parents.

His mother insisted we walk to a nice pub for a drink after lunch.

On the way we had to cross a very busy road. Vehicles travelling at 50-70mph.

His mother got frustrated with waiting for a safe gap to cross the road and proceeded to run across the road in front of a coach (the type that carry around 45-50 passengers) with my child in the pram.

When DD turned 7 months I agreed to let grandmother take her to the local swimming pool.
I allowed this to happen a few times but eventually put a stop to it as it was causing so much disruption to DD’s routine and grandmother would bring her back 1-2hrs later than agreed, meaning she was always tired and starving.

So a week after I put an end to the swimming, we go and visit them again. (They have 2 houses, one is less than 2 miles from us, the other is an hour and a half away)
So it’s saturday morning and grandmother wants us all to go for a walk with the baby. She decides that me, her son and his dad have to walk over a small mountain to the end point. I insist that I’m not going over a mountain, she tells me I am and that she will walk round the path at the bottom with the pram.
She’s very forceful about it and to save arguments I reluctantly go up the mountain.
When we get to the other side she said “if you hadn’t of come down when you did I was about to ask someone in the beer garden to watch the baby whilst I went to the toilet”
I was horrified. She told me not to be ridiculous because it was the Lake District. I said that doesn’t matter, you can’t just leave my child with a stranger in a pub beer garden!
She said why? I leave her with people I vaguely know when we go swimming so I can have a shower, dry and straighten my hair and get dressed.

That evening I was in the kitchen helping her make dinner and she starts degrading me. She thinks I’m disadvantaged because of my upbringing (because my parents split up when I was a baby and my mum remarried - my relationship with all 3 parents is fine, my mum still regularly checks in on my dad and I’m 31)
She also thinks I should change my career and only work ‘school’ hours. That my 15 year career in hospitality is a waste. (I work in the same restaurant as her son, it’s how we met)
My qualifications in business and administration are “worthless” though so she believes I would struggle to get “a proper job.”

Since DD was born, grandmother has always asked to take her for a few hours. She never comes round for a coffee or to visit her at my house and she always insists on picking the baby up from my house instead of me going up to hers unless we visit their home in the Lake District.

The undermining of my parenting I can get over, snatching DD from me when she is fussing, I can bite my tongue.

But am I overreacting by feeling this woman is putting my precious child in danger?

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TheDandyHighwayman · 13/07/2019 18:20

No.

You've got the power as you have what she wants.

I saw someone one post the three dos.

Do you love your grandchild?
Do you want a relationship with them?
Do as your told.

Alsohuman · 13/07/2019 18:20

It’s hard to say which of you is the most bonkers. Her for recklessly putting your child in danger or you for letting her.

Sunshine93 · 13/07/2019 18:22

Yanbu just dont leave her with her unsupervised again. If asked why say you are uncomfortable with her being left with strangers as she has quite clearly told you she does this.

Also sorry to say this but saying yes to something you dont want to do to avoid an argument then being annoyed about it is a bit pathetic. It's not avoiding an argument if you are secretly storing up resentment . Next time just say " No i am not walking up a mountain" or " no you cannot take dd" it really is as simple as that. In the short term it might cause some minor conflict but in the long term your relationship with this woman will be less unequally balanced and you will feel much happier.

Tink1990 · 13/07/2019 18:27

Wow. I cant get over the fact you were forced to walk up a mountain, wtaf!? Thats just bonkers. Just tell the woman no when you want/need to!

Pcosmum88 · 13/07/2019 18:41

I’ve tried to let her have a relationship with DD but I’ve already put my foot down and stopped letting her see her unsupervised.

The woman is super controlling.

Until the last visit with them I was unaware of what had been going on. (minus the incident with the coach, which I had already said my piece on to her when it happened)

Grandmother used to work in a school so I assumed she would take the safeguarding of my child seriously.

‘Alsohuman’ if I’m not aware of what’s going on how am I supposed to take action to prevent it?

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Alsohuman · 13/07/2019 18:45

The coach incident would have been enough for me. My heart was in my mouth just reading that.

QueenBeee · 13/07/2019 18:48

There will be many years for DGM to spend time with DD once DD is older. She doesn't seem to have much idea with a baby.

Lllot5 · 13/07/2019 18:52

How can someone make you walk up a mountain?
You need to stand up to her just say no.

Pcosmum88 · 13/07/2019 19:04

Alsohuman to be honest, me in tears yelling at her when it happened, I assumed would have made her take more care.
Now I believe she just decided to hide things she was doing.

The majority of the points in this post happened across 1 weekend.

We were supposed to stay an extra 2 days but I had the car packed to leave after finding out about her leaving my child with strangers.

I’ve only ever left DD with her dad and her up until she started nursery last week. According to grandmother this is the same thing..
Except it’s not, these are people who I’ve employed to help care for my child! We went to several places before I settled on this nursery

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Alsohuman · 13/07/2019 19:10

Sorry, my first reply was unnecessarily abrasive. You’ve been more than fair to her. She’s not fit to look after your child. It’s got to stop, hasn’t it?

LordNibbler · 13/07/2019 19:15

And what has your OH had to say about all this?

cptartapp · 13/07/2019 19:25

Whilst PIL have been in charge of our DC or nephews, we have had head injuries, black eyes, major abrasions and two broken wrists. They were also obsessed with stuffing them all with huge adult sized chocolate puddings. I know accidents happen etc, but I'm sorry to say neither us or my SIL left our DC with them alone ever again after the latter incident.
Your MIl sounds overinvolved anyway. Don't be so passive. See them two or three times a month with you present.

Pcosmum88 · 13/07/2019 19:30

LordNibbler, he’s not my OH as of quite recently as he sided with his mother. He still sees DD daily, work permitting.

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Pcosmum88 · 13/07/2019 19:35

cptartapp I’m already having a break down, I think I’d be out for blood if she had ever come back with visible injuries!

I don’t feel at the moment like i’ll leave her alone with anyone other than nursery for quite some years to come.

Alsohuman, appreciate your opinions and thank you

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NoSauce · 13/07/2019 19:39

Stand up for yourself. This is your baby. It doesn’t matter if MIL doesn’t like it, not one bit. What’s your DH’s take on all of this?

NoSauce · 13/07/2019 19:40

So you’re not together with the father now?

womaninthedark · 13/07/2019 19:42

Definitely you are in the right to stop/have stopped this woman having unsupervised access to your child. Keep saying no.

"Do you love your grandchild?
Do you want a relationship with them?
Do as your told."
I've never seen this before but it's right. And it's the principle I apply as a grandmother^. I'm not the child's parent, inevitably I'll get things wrong, but I try to support the parents in the way they bring up the child. There's no need for these grandmothers to be so stroppy. They'll achieve more by being compliant.

Cherrysoup · 13/07/2019 19:45

Your (ex) OH agreed with his mother?! What an idiot! I certainly wouldn’t allow the grandmother to have sole charge again. She doesn’t sound like she has a clue.

EKGEMS · 13/07/2019 19:58

You're the baby's mother and whatever you have to do to prevent this batshit woman from being in charge of your baby do it. She's shown tremendously poor judgement and honestly needs a thorough medical/psychological evaluation and so does the child's father if he sees nothing wrong with her behavior.
I'd probably have strangled her right on that other side of the road tbh!

Pcosmum88 · 13/07/2019 20:07

Womaninthedark, nice to have a grandparents view on this also, thank you.

I do agree mistakes and accidents can happen.

Thank you all for your comments.

I needed it after DDs dad agreed with his mum. They have been trying to tell me I’m being ridiculous and unreasonable. Now I feel like I’ve reacted appropriately for DDs safety and well-being.

I haven’t stopped anyone from seeing her, I’ve just said that his parents will have to visit her here at home.

Her dad sees her here without any issues, he comes straight from work, he has a cuddle, gives her her bedtime bottle and puts her to bed.

Hopefully he’ll speak to someone other than me and his mother and realises the error of judgement.

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Pcosmum88 · 13/07/2019 20:08

EKGEMS i considered wrapping the pram around her head when she let slip about leaving my child with strangers!

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Ayemama · 13/07/2019 23:28

Wow this woman is unbelievable.
You've done the right thing stopping her from having your DD unsupervised.
She sounds bat crap crazy!

LordNibbler · 14/07/2019 10:32

You know you don't have to let her see your dc don't you. She's your child not hers. I'm a GM and I know that my relationship with my GS is a privilege not a right. I ask his mother how she does things with him, and I do it her way. Because I love them both dearly and I respect her parenting.
I'm very sorry your OH has decided to side with his mother. He will be the one losing out in the long run. Stick to your guns here, you are your daughters advocate, and you sound a great mum.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 14/07/2019 10:40

Holy moly, you’ve got enough going on with your seperation from DDs dad, never mind having to accept the actions of this dickwad.

In one sense having split from OH should almost make it easier to give the GPs a resounding “no” as you want have to risk hurting his feelings - he’s proven himself to be idiotic enough to side with his mother and I don’t blame you if that was instrumental in the seperation.

In the other she could fly off the handle and claim you’re trying to take her grandchild away from her as the second line after her dad (you know what I mean, I’m not articulating well). Does she know you and her DS have split?

Side note: I’m getting overtones of Meryl Streep in Pretty Little Lies here.

OP this is your child and granny has proven herself not fit to take care.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 14/07/2019 10:47

*Big Little Lies ffs

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