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Paternal grandmother dilemma

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Pcosmum88 · 13/07/2019 18:14

So this is my first thread as I have come to the end of my tether with DD’s grandmother on her dads side.

I’m going to just give facts so people can give unbiased opinions and advice.

In April this year DD was 5 months old. We went to visit his parents.

His mother insisted we walk to a nice pub for a drink after lunch.

On the way we had to cross a very busy road. Vehicles travelling at 50-70mph.

His mother got frustrated with waiting for a safe gap to cross the road and proceeded to run across the road in front of a coach (the type that carry around 45-50 passengers) with my child in the pram.

When DD turned 7 months I agreed to let grandmother take her to the local swimming pool.
I allowed this to happen a few times but eventually put a stop to it as it was causing so much disruption to DD’s routine and grandmother would bring her back 1-2hrs later than agreed, meaning she was always tired and starving.

So a week after I put an end to the swimming, we go and visit them again. (They have 2 houses, one is less than 2 miles from us, the other is an hour and a half away)
So it’s saturday morning and grandmother wants us all to go for a walk with the baby. She decides that me, her son and his dad have to walk over a small mountain to the end point. I insist that I’m not going over a mountain, she tells me I am and that she will walk round the path at the bottom with the pram.
She’s very forceful about it and to save arguments I reluctantly go up the mountain.
When we get to the other side she said “if you hadn’t of come down when you did I was about to ask someone in the beer garden to watch the baby whilst I went to the toilet”
I was horrified. She told me not to be ridiculous because it was the Lake District. I said that doesn’t matter, you can’t just leave my child with a stranger in a pub beer garden!
She said why? I leave her with people I vaguely know when we go swimming so I can have a shower, dry and straighten my hair and get dressed.

That evening I was in the kitchen helping her make dinner and she starts degrading me. She thinks I’m disadvantaged because of my upbringing (because my parents split up when I was a baby and my mum remarried - my relationship with all 3 parents is fine, my mum still regularly checks in on my dad and I’m 31)
She also thinks I should change my career and only work ‘school’ hours. That my 15 year career in hospitality is a waste. (I work in the same restaurant as her son, it’s how we met)
My qualifications in business and administration are “worthless” though so she believes I would struggle to get “a proper job.”

Since DD was born, grandmother has always asked to take her for a few hours. She never comes round for a coffee or to visit her at my house and she always insists on picking the baby up from my house instead of me going up to hers unless we visit their home in the Lake District.

The undermining of my parenting I can get over, snatching DD from me when she is fussing, I can bite my tongue.

But am I overreacting by feeling this woman is putting my precious child in danger?

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Pcosmum88 · 14/07/2019 11:00

LordNibbler - thank you, I’m still learning but I greatly appreciate your words.

Paulhollywoodssexgut- she is kicking off in a big way. She’s aiming it mostly at him, she messages to ask how LO is getting on in nursery and I let her know she’s doing fine, but she slips in a message every time asking when she can have DD and it’s a firm no each time so haven’t heard from her in a week but LOs dad passes on requests he receives for GM to have LO, he gets the same answer too. She’s welcome to see her whenever we are free, but she’s not taking her anywhere unsupervised.

They’ll get the message eventually.

I keep trying to work out why she’s so insistent on only spending time with DD when I’m not around, it’s just so baffling

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LittleOwl153 · 14/07/2019 11:02

Your issue here is going to be that you cannot control what your OH does with your dd on his time. For the moment he is happy coming to yours but don't expect that to last forever. Once he has for alloted time - ewo for example - he will be perfectly entitled to drop her with his mother without even telling you unless you can get a very good child arrangement order in place which excludes him doing that specifically.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 14/07/2019 11:07

keep trying to work out why she’s so insistent on only spending time with DD when I’m not around, it’s just so baffling

And worrying

Rosemary46 · 14/07/2019 11:07

Stop dealing with his family at all, he is your Ex, it’s not your problem. He can facilitate their relationship with his DD On his time, when she is old enough.

notapizzaeater · 14/07/2019 11:08

At some point your ex will be able to have overnights etc and you won't be able to control what happens

Pcosmum88 · 14/07/2019 11:08

Littleowl153: I know, the thought of it is making me ill. He’s been told that if he leaves her with GM unsupervised that he will only see DD supervised as well, which means GM will only be able to see LO with me there.

Grandparents are moving up to the lakes full time in September so hopefully it will all settled down once there is a bigger distance

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notapizzaeater · 14/07/2019 11:09

: I know, the thought of it is making me ill. He’s been told that if he leaves her with GM unsupervised that he will only see DD supervised

You won't be able to insist on this 😢

Pcosmum88 · 14/07/2019 11:10

Notapizzaeater no overnights until she’s talking...

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Pcosmum88 · 14/07/2019 11:11

Notapizzaeater, I can insist, and I think if they try and take me to court then I’d have good grounds

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Drum2018 · 14/07/2019 11:12

Make sure the nursery is aware that your ex MIL/FIL are not to collect dd, as they could try to do that. As pointed out, when your Dh has his access time once you have formally separated and he stops coming around to the house, you won't have any control over him bringing baby to his parents and MIL taking baby out. Dh isn't likely to tell you if and when this happens.

Pcosmum88 · 14/07/2019 11:22

Drum2018: I’ve already changed the password for collecting her, they won’t let anyone collect her unless I give them permission to release her to anyone else and the person collecting knows password

Tbh I don’t think her dad would want her overnight, he hadn’t been particularly interested or involved since I got pregnant. I personally think his parents told him he had to come live here and be with his family. I know all too well that he would dump DD on GM without a care, he did it when I was in hospital in March. I was annoyed but that was before any of this had happened.

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funnylittlefloozie · 14/07/2019 12:48

But as your DD gets older, how will you stop your ex from letting his mum have alone time with DD when he has her for weekends?

Pcosmum88 · 14/07/2019 13:05

funnylittlefloozie Firstly I doubt he would have her at weekends as I don’t work them and he does, he works most days.

As I said previously, they will be moving away in September, until then, if I find out that her dad has left DD with them unsupervised then he will be on supervised visits.

I’ve told him this and he didn’t seem particularly bothered.

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Pcosmum88 · 14/07/2019 13:08

My main point is that I am not stopping anyone from spending time with her, my priority is keeping her safe.
If they don’t want me to be there then it’s tough really isn’t it. I’m her mum, it’s unreasonable for anyone to expect me to leave my 8 month old in their care

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Pcosmum88 · 18/07/2019 07:34

So on Tuesday morning, GM came to my work and proceeded to follow me around the restaurant, whilst I was looking after guests, training a member of staff, answering the phone, she hovered.

That night she sends me a long nasty text message and I snap and list everything she has done to cause this.

She replied last night and has completely missed the point about leaving my child with strangers and says I’m blowing things out of proportion because the place where she took LO swimming was members only.
I know it’s members only, I work on the other side of the complex, we have over 7000 members and i don’t know them all so they are still strangers!!

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usersouthcoast · 18/07/2019 07:45

I'd just ignore from here on in any nasty texts or pushing back to your reasonings. You've said it multiple times now.
If she stops getting an answer and reactions from you, she will have to go through her son instead.

WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 18/07/2019 08:53

OP, make sure you document all the crazy stuff she is doing in case you need it for a custody order one day.

-keep a diary. A good way to do this is to create an email address and then email it when she does something odd/dangerous etc. then you have a list of dated incidents ready to go if you need it.

-tell other people who will keep records in real time. GP, counsellor etc.

  • get evidence from other people who can corroborate what you're saying.

Coming to your place of work and lurking around you is seriously strange. Did you tell her to leave?

I'd be sending her an email so it's all in writing 'dear ex-mil, it's not appropriate to show up at my workplace or any place myself or DD will be without an invitation. Do not do this again.'

Pcosmum88 · 18/07/2019 20:35

WishingILivedOnAnIsland
Bloody good idea, I hadn’t actually considered documenting what she had done but looking at her more recent behaviour I’d better knuckle down and get it all put in one place. I have dates because she always uses text messages to communicate.

I did stop and ask her what she was waiting for but because I had 2 staff stood with me she got flustered and asked how work was going and could we talk, I said no, as you can see I’m really busy and walked into the back. I messaged LOs dad and told him to deal with it, he’s our general manager so it was in his interests to deal with the problem.

I’ve spoken to nursery manager and she’s not going to let grandmother through the door and if dad turns up she’s going to ring me and warn me before she lets him into the building, she can’t stop him from taking LO without a court order but considering GMs behaviour, if he consistently drops LO with her Instead of spending time with her himself then I can’t see it being that hard to get permission to put him on supervised visits

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