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Law Of Attraction

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Whatsername7 · 13/07/2019 08:36

An acquaintance of mine has become a 'Law Of Attraction' coach, charges a substantial fee for coaching, written an expensive book and talks about 'manifesting' and 'sparkly energy'. Ive never really heard of it and find myself curious to know more - just to satisfy my 'is this a real thing or MLM type hocum' wonderings. Ive considered asking my aquaintance but cant afford her fees or be bothered sitting through the marketing trope. Does anyone have an experience? Is it diary writing? Did anyone do it and change their lives?

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BelleSausage · 13/07/2019 08:37

MLM hocum. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid!

MissCharleyP · 13/07/2019 08:42

My friend was a big believer in this. She had that book ‘The Secret’ and insisted I read it. I have never laughed so much at a ‘serious’ book in my life! It is an utter load of crap. On a serious note, there does seem to be an element of victim blaming; if you fail at something or are not as successful as others then it’s because “you didn’t want it enough” and if something bad happens “you attracted it with your negative mindset”. As my DH has cancer last year it really pisses me off. And yes, MLMs do use it as part of their victim blaming when people decide to leave and also to encourage you to “invest in your business” and “fake it till you make it” as when others see you being successful (even if you’re not), they’ll be attracted to it and pay you to join your ‘team’ of #bossbabes 🙄

TheChain · 13/07/2019 08:43

I believe it in 100% and it definitely works. However, you don’t need a coach for it! I’ve read the books (a lot of it is cheesy drivel) but it’s basically the principle of what you put out into the universe you get back. It’s simply self affirmation and goal achieving.

Set yourself goals... so every 6 months or so I write down a list of things I want to happen. For me these are things like “develop a better relationship with my stepdaughter”, “achieve distinctions in all my modules at university”.

Then after 6 months go back and read the list and see how many you’ve achieved. Usually all of them!

It’s not rocket science, it’s deciding you want things to happen so you actively make them happen. That’s all.

It’s what life coaches have been doing for decades.

Personally I think life coaches etc are a load of bollocks and not worth the money unless you’ve got really bad low self esteem... in which case your money would be better off being spent seeing a qualified therapist anyway.

Anyway, the Law of Attraction does work if you’re already in a good mindset. It trains you to think more positively and obviously positivity naturally attracts more positive outcomes.

FudgeBrownie2019 · 13/07/2019 08:47

It's hocum designed to empty the pockets of those less confident.

TheChain · 13/07/2019 08:49

Who actually pays to see these people? They’re always vulnerable to begin with otherwise they wouldn’t be considering it. It seems so immoral

User10fuckingmillion · 13/07/2019 08:49

I don’t think I believe that what you put into the world you get back. I know people who have tried incredibly hard to improve other people’s lives and who have been perpetually screwed over in their own, for instance.

TheChain · 13/07/2019 08:55

@User10fuckingmillion it’s not a science is it or exact. But the basic idea that if you walk around through life with negativity and bitterness, or go into job interviews / exams expecting to fail then of course you are more likely to do just that.
A positive mindset is far more likely to attract positive outcomes.
It is also true that when bad things happen to people with a positive mindset they are generally more resilient and less likely to let it negatively affect them.
If you’re already feeling negative about things in general then small set backs can seem huge and overwhelming.

Cozytoesandtoast00 · 13/07/2019 09:14

I think there is an element of truth in it.
Obviously it has its limitations otherwise you would have people winning the lottery all the time! Similarly, having an influence in someone's death, in my view is not possible.
Think about when you have a bad start to a morning and annoying things continue throughout the day or the opposite..
My mother is the most negative person you would meet. It's her set mindset.
She has had the worst luck imaginable and has had lots of sorrow in her life.
Funnily enough I was the opposite and have always imagined and attracted a good life.
It's not about wishing for something. It's enjoying what you have and expecting more.
Some of my old school friends are the same, we came from poor backgrounds, expected a good future but were also happy with what we had. We are all now very comfortable and happy.
Like attracts like. It's not complex or silly it's evident all around you. Similar to the butterfly effect ...
Its working for me 😊

Cozytoesandtoast00 · 13/07/2019 09:19

Also if you're interested in learning more the podcast "the Lively Show" from about episode 188, explains the concept really well and how to implement it into your life. Amazing stuff.

bordellosboheme · 13/07/2019 09:23

Google Abraham Hicks videos on you tube. You will be hooked!!!

Cozytoesandtoast00 · 13/07/2019 09:25

Agreed Bordello!

EleanorOalike · 13/07/2019 09:25

I ghosted a friend because when I was going through a difficult time (housebound due to an autoimmune condition, mother in hospital with heart attack, another close relative was dying) she told me “this is all happening hun because you are such a negative person. You are attracting all of this into your life through The Law of Attraction because your (sic) always thinking negative thoughts and bringing negativity into your life. If you use The Secret, things will improve x”.

I’ve put a lot of good into this world. More than most people ever do for others. I’ve had rotten luck and a lot of shitty things happen throughout my life. It’s incredibly insulting to insinuate that terrible things that can happen to people are their fault because of the way they think. I’ve seen too much to believe in things like Karma anymore.

NameChangeNugget · 13/07/2019 09:26

It’s cheese but, there’s definitely something to it.

LotusInspired · 13/07/2019 09:26

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Cozytoesandtoast00 · 13/07/2019 09:27

Although, starting with Abraham Hicks may be a bit out there for most people!

Whatsername7 · 13/07/2019 09:49

See thats where I start to feel like it is hocum - I am a positive 'lets go for it' type person. I work hard and im kind. It doesnt take much to make me happy and I have a successful career. When I got pregnant for the second time, everything was perfect - everything I'd worked hard to manifest (for want of a better word) was happening. Then I miscarried at 13 weeks. It hit me like a tonne of bricks because I never thought it would happen. I really struggled to cope and instead of the support I had put out into the world coming back, my family pushed me to move on and my husband responded to my sadness by having an emotional affair. I didn't see that coming either. Im still a positive, glass half full person, but I don't think I will ever be quite as shiny as I once was. This idea of willing good things to happen seems illogical to me. I work hard for good things to happen and accept that, along with the good, there will be bad too. Surely that is just life?

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CantspellWontspell · 13/07/2019 09:57

It’s 99.9% utter bollocks.

The only part of it I like is the idea that it is never the actual thing that you are reaching for but the feeling you think the thing will give you and that if you work on cultivating the feeling (joy, security, excitement etc) then it often is irrelevant as to whether the actual thing manifests anyway.

You don’t need to pay someone thousands of pounds to learn that though - it’s a swindle.

TheChain · 13/07/2019 10:00

This idea of willing good things to happen seems illogical to me. I work hard for good things to happen

It’s not willing things to happen, it’s actively pursuing those things you want to happen with a positive attitude and assuming you will reach your goal in the end. Nothing happens just by thinking about it, you still have to act.
By setting those goals and being determined then you’re a hell of a lot more likely to achieve them.
It’s the foundation of every business plan / weight loss group / sports team etc that’s ever been successful. It’s not hocum, it’s self management, self belief and positivity that’s all.
The Law of Attraction just spells it out in a way that’s easy to understand and helped me organise my thoughts better.

CantspellWontspell · 13/07/2019 10:00

Just to note, I categorically don’t mean in relationship to things like health and pregnancy etc. Obviously the outcome does matter and a negative outcome is traumatizing and you can’t “positive think” your way through those experiences.

PizzaTaste · 13/07/2019 10:02

TheChain has given a very thoughtful answer so I’m just going to say ‘I echo that’.

I love it. It works for me

TheChain · 13/07/2019 10:04

It’s 99.9% utter bollocks

The delivery may be cheesy and very Americanised but it’s definitely not bollocks. All they’ve done is given it a catchy name and repackaged it as something people can purchase (which is wrong and immoral).

The techniques they describe have been used in so many business training and staff programmes. KPI, quarterly reviews, interviewing techniques etc all use this principle under different names

Cozytoesandtoast00 · 13/07/2019 10:06

Whatsername7
It doesn't mean bad stuff doesn't happen.
Jess lively explains it all really well(Podcast from episode 188 onwards)
She's a really intelligent person, who thrashes out all the arguments against the LOA.
Also "working hard" doesn't necessarily = attraction.
People who tend to believe it tend to have better lives. If its a placebo affect, so be it. I'm all over it!

TheChain · 13/07/2019 10:06

What is bollocks is saying if you think positively you can avoid cancer / disease etc. A lot of those illnesses are genetic.
However, there is irrefutable medical and psychology proof that a positive mindset aids recovery.

Sarcelle · 13/07/2019 10:06

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Cozytoesandtoast00 · 13/07/2019 10:11

TheChain
I agree with you.
My best friend had stage 4 cancer. She is one of the most happy, positive people I know. She's fully recovered by the way.

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