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Law Of Attraction

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Whatsername7 · 13/07/2019 08:36

An acquaintance of mine has become a 'Law Of Attraction' coach, charges a substantial fee for coaching, written an expensive book and talks about 'manifesting' and 'sparkly energy'. Ive never really heard of it and find myself curious to know more - just to satisfy my 'is this a real thing or MLM type hocum' wonderings. Ive considered asking my aquaintance but cant afford her fees or be bothered sitting through the marketing trope. Does anyone have an experience? Is it diary writing? Did anyone do it and change their lives?

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Cozytoesandtoast00 · 13/07/2019 10:14

Obviously i'm not saying that being positive cures cancer but it does assist some in their recovery.

TheFormidableMrsC · 13/07/2019 10:19

I'm quite interested in this and have been for many years. You don't need a coach or anything like it and that's just preying on people's vulnerabilities. However, every few months I do sit down and write a list of things, things I want to sort out or hope to attract to my life and basically "ask the universe". Sometimes you hear the term "cosmic ordering". I have no idea why it works but it does. I think it's because subconsciously you make more of an effort or have a subtle change of mindset. I think you do what works for you and what makes you happy, however daft it sounds!

mark090 · 13/07/2019 10:21

I don't believe that it works. I applied it everyday but it doesn't work.

TheChain · 13/07/2019 10:30

@TheFormidableMrsC

I think it's because subconsciously you make more of an effort or have a subtle change of mindset

That’s exactly what happens. It’s not some magical mystery, it’s making a determined effort (even subconsciously) to make something happen

Cozytoesandtoast00 · 13/07/2019 10:41

"Everything is energy and that's all there is to it. Match the frequency of the reality you want and you cannot help but get that reality. It can be no other way. This is not philosophy. This is physics.

  • Albert Einstein

Its harder than it seems to do this in reality though and that is why more often than not, it fails.

Birdrib · 13/07/2019 10:47

It’s basically if you want something, make it happen.

I don’t understand why it needs to be jazzed up or taught by life coaches.

Cozytoesandtoast00 · 13/07/2019 10:51

Birdrib
Not the same!
It's not at all about decisions.

Birdrib · 13/07/2019 10:52

How so?

Cozytoesandtoast00 · 13/07/2019 10:57

Really difficult to explain in a post. I wouldn't do it justice.
It's about feeling and believing that you are already where you want to be. This enables you to attract what you want.
Look into some of the suggestions on this thread but perhaps not starting with Abraham Hicks. The Secret book was not so great..

Honeysuckleandroses · 13/07/2019 11:01

Ask and it is Given is a great book to start with:

www.amazon.co.uk/Ask-Given-Learning-Manifest-Attraction/dp/1401904599?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

The Secret is a very dumbed down version of the Law of Attraction which has been written about and understood for a very long time, it has just been given credence commercially relatively recently. It isn't a simplistic 'ten steps to wealth and happiness' , you really need to understand the concepts which requires a genuine commitment and not a passing interest.

Cozytoesandtoast00 · 13/07/2019 11:08

Also Joe Dispenzer (from a sientific background) : Breaking The Habit Of Being Yourself.
He explains the concept very well.

Cozytoesandtoast00 · 13/07/2019 11:09

*scientific!

Whatsername7 · 13/07/2019 11:19

But it only applies to things within your control? I think, certainly with the baby I lost, part og tge reason I struggled so much was the fact that I had absolutely visualised my child, the perfect 'im pregnant ' reveal to family, telling my dd, everything was so, so right. It was timed to perfection. Telling dh I was pregnant was perfect. Then the baby's heart stopped beating - never in a million years did I see that coming. I wasn't really in control despite all of my positivity. I can see how a positive mindset can help with lots of things, but how do you deal with things when you get a set back or what you want and visualise doesn't happen?

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Birdrib · 13/07/2019 11:20

It's about feeling and believing that you are already where you want to be.

I see that as just making it happen though. Adjusting your mindset to believing that it’s not only possible but inevitable.

Take a career goal for example, maybe becoming a doctor, it’s no use just feeling and believing you’re one already (and this could get you arrested if you started performing surgeries from your kitchen Grin) but believing you’re entirely capable means you’ll make it happen. The assessments will seem doable, you won’t feel inferior around those already qualified etc.

TheChain · 13/07/2019 11:28

@Whatsername7 I’m so sorry for your loss, it must have been terrible. What happened with your miscarriage was medical/ genetic. Of course you had no bearing on the outcome, no amount of positivity can override genetics and their effects.

However, having a more positive outlook on life in general can help you recover from traumatic and upsetting events. When I had my miscarriage I knew there was nothing I had done to cause it or could have done to prevent it. But I took stock of my life and all the positive things in it which didn’t stop me grieving but it put it into perspective and enabled me to dig my way out of a very black hole that I felt was consuming me at the time.
Having a goal... “Today I’m going to get dressed and go out”, when all I wanted to do is stay in bed and cry.

Believing in the law of attraction doesn’t mean bad things will never happen, but it does help equip you with coping strategies which enable you to recover quicker.

TheChain · 13/07/2019 11:36

Ok one example in my life... my dad died very suddenly and unexpectedly at a few years ago. He was only 54 and I found him dead.

I grieved, of course I grieved. But my brother and mother took very different paths to recovery than I did. They became negative for a long time, my brother began drinking to excess and had crashed his car which has permanently damaged his leg.
My mother developed high blood pressure from stress and for many years behaved very selfishly and negatively.

I however decided to focus on the good and not allow myself to go to that dark place. I was overwhelmed with the outpouring of love and kindness from our friends and family, I focused on all the good my dad did in life, what a difference he had made to these people who were grieving him and felt privileged to have known him.

I cried and cried at times because I missed him, but I didn’t let negativity take over my life. In doing that I was better able to support my mother and brother too.

I made life changing decisions in that time and took stock of what I had and what I wanted from life.

Cozytoesandtoast00 · 13/07/2019 11:54

I see that as just making it happen though. Adjusting your mindset to believing that it’s not only possible but inevitable

Yes of course you have to take action to make things happen. But this does not necessarily have be hard drudgery as is often expected in today's society.
Feeling and believing you are a Doctor (for example) gives you the confidence and perhaps the tools to succeed. You may find that you attract situations that make becoming a Doctor easier. Your interest in medicine may attract similar people to socialise with. They may introduce you to others who may help with your career etc etc
I find when I'm in this state of mind, life runs more smoothly..

ooooohbetty · 13/07/2019 12:02

It's a scam. You can read the book, watch it on YouTube without paying anyone. Really it's just positive thinking and hoping things are going to get better. It's harmless if you don't pay a coach.

ooooohbetty · 13/07/2019 12:04

You can will good things to happen but if they don't having a positive mindset can definitely help you deal with life's ups and downs.

CantspellWontspell · 13/07/2019 12:06

Of course lowering cortisol and other stress hormones aids recovery from illness. The mind and body are intimately entwined and a stressed anxious mind creates physiological toxicity in the body, reducing this enables the body to heal itself.

However, you can’t cure cancer with your mind, or “attract” physical health from the universe and people peddling this sort of stuff for £££ are snake oil merchants.

NorthEndGal · 13/07/2019 12:18

The truth is , it's not about willing something to happen. It's about being truly grateful for the good you already have, and for each new good thing that happens.

It's also reality that people are more likely to be helpful and kind towards you, if you act that way yourself.
If you are sullen, always saying why me, people will avoid you.

Bad things happen to good people all the time, but they have good people in their lives to help them face it.

You don't need to pay anyone or buy anything.
Focus on what you truly want, big or small, so you recognize the opportunity to have it when it comes.
Do the work to reach your goals, don't sit around waiting. Be positive in your mindset as you do it.

Cozytoesandtoast00 · 13/07/2019 12:20

However, you can’t cure cancer with your mind, or “attract” physical health from the universe and people peddling this sort of stuff for £££ are snake oil merchants

I agree there are lots of con artists out there and nobody should be selling this stuff..
However, there is huge evidence behind the impact of the placebo effect.
In one Harvard study that comes to mind which looked at treatment for Migraines, the placebo was 50% as effective as the real drug. This is evidence that the mind can really do powerful things for your physical health. This is one of many studies that are currently being researched.

Even if you do not believe in the LOA, the power of the mind should not be downplayed.

Whatsername7 · 13/07/2019 12:56

That makes sense to me @TheChain. I did the same. DH didn't though and he ended up cheating to make himself feel better Hmm. He worked that out in marriage counciling. His negative mindset hurt me amd almost cost him everything. I agree with the positive thinking mantra. Not completely sure about the LOA stuff but greatful for peoples experiences. Thank you.

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breathing · 13/07/2019 13:02

Just be very careful. I have been watching an acquaintance go more and more into this over the last few years and I can see she is heading for HUGE financial strife. She has paid out big for meetups, coaching etc and also for "living the life she wants to attract". Thousands of pounds gone.

SinkGirl · 13/07/2019 13:10

The cult of positivity have a lot to answer for

My mum was a fully paid up member of all this bullshit and all the associated various bullshits, and then she developed terminal cancer age 60. She was the most positive, healthy person you’ve ever met. She then started getting all the victim blaming bollocks, while still forking out close to £50k in her last 18 months to various charlatans because she didn’t believe it was possible she could die after all this stuff. But she did die, just as everyone (correctly) diagnosed with terminal cancer dies.

Lots of people making a lot of money out of selling bullshit. Disgraceful.

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