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To want a clean bed of my own (at 35!)

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Orchidna · 12/07/2019 22:51

Hello, longtime Mumsnet lurker here. This is my first post.

DH (40) and I (35) are expecting our first baby this autumn. It is a much-wanted baby for us both and we are both delighted about this.

DH is extremely caring in many ways and overall our relationship is a very happy one. I had a difficult pregnancy earlier on and was advised at one point to prepare for the worse, which thankfully did not materialise. As a result of these earlier issues, DH and I agreed that I would not go into a job once my professional training course completed earlier this year. So at the moment, I’m preparing to launch a business within my field, that I can do from home, with young children. DH is therefore taking care of all of the bills, for which I am extremely grateful and I take care to show my gratitude to him.

DH and I are from different cultures – me: British/English. DH is from Eastern Europe. We are very aware of the challenges that our cultural differences have created in our relationship – especially during the first year of living together. Mainly due to differing habits and expectations around meals.

DH and I both purchased properties elsewhere before we met nearly 3 years ago. However, for financial and work-related reasons, we currently live in a furnished rented house, which DH has lived in for around 6 years and which he has been reluctant to move from unless we buy a property in this area. His reluctance to move has been due to financial and practical reasons, as this house has relatively cheap rent for this area (probably due to no central heating upstairs and a bit of a damp/mould problem - mostly under control now). However, he freely admits that he is quite emotionally attached to the house as it holds lots of memories from his bachelor days.

Partly because of DH's work, which often involves lates/nights, we sleep in separate bedrooms. However, even when DH has a day off, we still sleep in separate bedrooms because DH snores (but refuses to see a doctor about it) and his snoring stops me sleeping. When we share a bed on holiday, his snoring is often much better or non-existent - we suspect that this is because a better-quality mattress and bed helps to greatly reduce or eliminate the problem.

As mentioned, the house is furnished. There are two main bedrooms, one with a double divan (which I sleep on, using the mattress that I brought with me when I moved in over 2 years ago). DH sleeps on the kingsize divan and mattress in the other bedroom. We would both like to share a bed, and bedroom. However, DH has been very reluctant to replace one or both beds, as he feels there is “nothing wrong with them”.

Both divans (plus DH’s mattress) are part of the house furnishings and have been here since before DH moved in (he previously shared with a group of male friends, who left one by one to cohabit/get married). So he is the only one left here. DH categorically did not want us to move into a new place together when we agreed to move in together, due to the aforementioned attractions of this house for him.
I brought my own (fairly new) double mattress and metal bedstead when I moved in. However, although I’ve been sleeping in my mattress for most of that time. DH has been very reluctant to replace the existing divan with my bedstead, despite the fact that he never sleeps in that room .

I hate the fact that both divans and DH’s mattress ‘came with the house’, were clearly here long before DH moved in 6 years ago, have definitely been used by quite a few different people (including people neither of us have ever met) and are stained.

I accept that it is DH’s choice which bed he chooses to sleep on. But I firmly believe that it is unreasonable of him to expect me to sleep on his mattress or either divan (even with my relatively new mattress on top), especially when I’m not asking him to spend any money, as my own new bedstead is downstairs in the garage. He is a big guy and has any number of burly bloke mates who would readily help him swap them over. I’ve even said that I’m happy to pay myself for two chaps from a Man With A Van-type outfit to come and do the swap themselves. We have lots of stuff in the garage but room could definitely be created – e.g. we could sell the home gym equipment that DH never uses and which he’s been saying he needs to sell.

Today, I attempted to raise the matter of the divan in my room with DH. I felt I had to do this, as even if I get the ‘Men With a Van’ to do the deed, DH is often at home (or pops in and out) in the daytime/ so it’d be hard for me organise while he’s out.

My experience in raising this with DH today was much the same as last time. He is calm (DH never loses his temper) but I feel like I’m banging my head against a brick wall as he doesn’t seem to see my point of view about it, unless I get really upset. Which I did, today.
I’ve tried to explain that it’s really unnecessary and not OK, in my opinion, for a 35 year old woman (with a baby on the way, to boot) to be expected to sleep, indefinitely, on a stained, old mattress slept on my God-knows-how-many people over the years. DH still says he can’t see what’s wrong with the divan, particularly since he and his mother draped a sheet over it a few months ago (so it wasn’t touching my mattress). To me, this still doesn’t make it OK, as the divan is still the same divan and the outside of the base (the part that would be covered with the skirt of a valance) is stained too. It’s just grim!

I’ve put up with the situation for two years. But it upsets me that our baby’s cot will be in close proximity to the divan. DH says he can’t see any problem, as they won’t be touching. Nevertheless, DH balked when I suggested buying clean, good condition secondhand baby items, such as a cot and pram. He said that “everyone” in his country of origin buys new baby things.

I asked DH whether he thinks it would be OK to expect our young child (once they are old enough to need a proper bed) to sleep on an old, stained divan (and/or mattress) – particularly if we had means to buy new ones, or indeed if we had a new one in the garage. I asked him how he thought his future child would feel in that situation, knowing that her DF didn’t want her to have a nice new bed, yet had the means to provide one. DH went quiet at this point. I’m very sure he would want our child to have a new, clean bed divan and mattress.

DH is now saying that we can perhaps look to buy a new kingsize bed and mattress that we can both sleep on. So perhaps what I’ve said has sunk in. However, this whole thing has really upset me, as we have the financial means to buy a new kingsize divan (and mattress) for us both. It just feels that DH can’t be bothered or doesn’t think somehow that I am deserving of what to me is an incredibly basic thing – a clean bed of ones own.

After having it out with him (unfortunately, I was raging), DH said the reason he doesn’t want me to use my own bedstead is because it is black and metal, as aesthetically he doesn’t like it. (Yet we have some of our own black metal furniture items in the living room that we chose together and which he likes).

What makes all of this feel even worse is that DH recently spent over £2K (on 0% finance) on a (big, black) sound system for downstairs, even though the existing speakers still worked OK. He returned the largest speakers, costing £1K for the pair, thanks to some encouragement/pushing from myself, as it was obvious that they were way too large/powerful for our living room. This wasn’t just my opinion – online tech advice websites said exactly the same thing. He agreed he had made a mistake in buying them.

DH says that his standards/expectations around the divan issue would be shared by anybody from his home country (really??) However, I’ve said it’s not at all OK for here.

What upsets me even more is that DH’s property in his home country (which his MIL and FIL now live in, having sold DH’s childhood home) looks like something out of a magazine, or at least the Next catalogue! All nice, new, spotless furniture. DH says this is because it’s a relatively newly purchased/renovated property and he had to furnish it from scratch. DH says though that MIL and FIL wouldn’t have a problem sleeping on old divans/mattresses like we have here, were they in the same circumstances as us (again, really??)

Either way, I have said to DH that the situation with the divan is not acceptable to me and I don’t know anyone (amongst my family and friends, at least) who would be OK with it. As far as I know, it’s something you’d ‘accept’ only if you were in desperate circumstances or had little choice due to accommodation restrictions – e.g. homeless, asylum seeker or student.

DH is now saying that he never said I couldn’t have a new bedstead. If that’s the case, why, over 2 years on from me moving in, are we still having this conversation and I feel like I have to get really upset and angry before he takes what I’m saying seriously? I feel completely unsupported by him on this. To make matters worse, whilst I’ve had a few truly crap relationships in the past, I can’t think of a single ex who wouldn’t have agreed that (particularly post-student days), I need, from Day 1 of moving into whatever property, a nice, clean bed of my own. And I’m sorry to say that I told DH this.

I would be grateful for others’ thoughts on this. Not sure if pregnancy hormones are getting the better of me (hence the rage) or whether DH truly is behavingly crappily on this point.

OP posts:
PooWillyBumBum · 12/07/2019 23:16

He never gets angry and sounds like a generally nice guy apart from weird beliefs surrounding furniture. For goodness sake just organise a man with van and do the switch whilst he's out.

bingbongnoise · 12/07/2019 23:18

@Orchidna

Impossibly long post WTAF? Confused Did it seriously need to be that long? I assume from your thread title that you want your own bed??? That's all you had to say.

You're a grown woman in your 30s. Of COURSE you can have your own bloody bed..

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 12/07/2019 23:20

Can you summarise that for us, really concisely, OP?

Because I too lost the will after paragraph 3.

AnotheChinHair · 12/07/2019 23:20

wow, some people have read this?

lavenderbluedilly · 12/07/2019 23:20

Get it replaced when he is out/at work 🤷🏼‍♀️

Stick a valance sheet over it and he’ll be none the wiser. I’m sure the landlord won’t mind an old dirty divan being replaced with a new one

Mistley · 12/07/2019 23:21

I don't know why you didn't just set the bed ypu brought with you up yourself 2 years ago.Why let it drag on this long?!

TroubleWithNargles · 12/07/2019 23:22

Look. Just go and buy another bed. Ask the bed company to take the old one away.

The end.

PickAChew · 12/07/2019 23:22

Don't you perhaps feel that you've rather rushed into marriage and starting a family with a guy who doesn't share your values?

Currently it's manky beds. You have 18 more years of various flavours of this shit ahead of you.

TalkingOrmer · 12/07/2019 23:24

@RB68 could you please link to those boots remedies? Thanks

Tooner · 12/07/2019 23:25

He's emotionally attached to the (cold,damp, mouldy)house and emotionally attached to the manky bed/mattress, he's either got emotional issues or just talking complete bullshit

PaintingOwls · 12/07/2019 23:25

Sorry OP but this is hilarious. I read the whole thing. Firstly, may I ask how on earth an English woman ever got into a relationship with an Eastern European man?

You need to take control and do it yourself or pay someone to do it. You're wasting energy trying to reason with him. My advice is that if you want to stay with him you talk about things 2-3 times and if he doesn't shift his arse into gear you take control and make it happen. For your sanity. He may eventually learn that you mean business. Right now you're teaching him that you'll nag him but nothing will happen.

My parents are Eastern European.

My dad decorated 90% of the house 20 years ago. He didn't get round to putting up the kitchen cabinet glass panes for 6 years despite my mother asking, pleading, begging, shouting. The glass was bubble wrapped in the corner the whole time.

They have a hole where the fireplace should go and he refuses to get anything to put there.

There's a broken fridge on the balcony that needs removing but is still there...

My brother sleeps on a single bed despite being well over 6 feet tall and too big for a single duvet.

My mum is like you and wants him to agree with her before she does anything, or preferably for him to do it, and of course he never does, and so she never changes anything!

And yes funnily enough his house "back home" is a labour of love Smile he just doesn't like and can't be bothered with England, sees everything here as temporary and therefore not in need of the same level of dedication. I can't say whether your DH feels the same? There are also different standards. If you go to England you're expected to demonstrate how rich you are and how well you've done. It would be an embarrassment to have anything other than new everything. Your neighbors and society would judge, and social pressure and presentation is MUCH more important there than it is here. Here no one will see or care what his house looks like. Over there it could cause a scandal Wink

And p.s. the sentimental attachment to the house... is that from shagging random women there by any chance?

I would be moving out, with or without him. Fuck having a baby in a mouldy house. Do your research on the impact mould and mould spores have on newborns.

justforthisnow · 12/07/2019 23:26

Who would want to sleep on someone elses mattress at that age, with good incomes and no children? Why?

Cherrysherbet · 12/07/2019 23:27

That is possibly the longest post I’ve ever seen on MN.

Just get the bed.

HollowTalk · 12/07/2019 23:27

OK tomorrow just say "Look, I've had enough. I want a new bed, just as you wanted new speakers. I'm going to go shopping and buy one."

No negotiation. Nothing. Just go out and buy the bed.

Oh and tell him to either see a doctor about his snoring or to accept he'll never have sex with you again.

Jesus, these fucking men!

ExpeditionEverest · 12/07/2019 23:28

I've just realised how much I hate the word 'divan'

Please don't say it any more.

FlamedToACrisp · 12/07/2019 23:29

I'm 57, and I've never had a new bed, always had fairly nice condition cast-offs/second-hand, although we did buy a new mattress once in a sale, about 15 years ago. But we've never been able to afford one - it's not been an option. And now we can afford one, but if I wait a few months, there will be a virtually-new one available free from my Mum's guest bedroom, so we'll wait. As long as the sheets are clean, after all these years, why would I care?

But the point is, you do care. Your DH can afford it. Your request is reasonable.

Find the bed you want. Tell him it costs £x and ask him for the money. Not 'perhaps' or 'later', but yes or no? If he won't pay, buy it yourself or install the one in the garage. Tell him you won't have your baby snuggling up with you on a dirty bed, and you're not prepared to carry on using it either. If he doesn't like your metal bedstead, he can buy you a different one.

MyKingdomForBrie · 12/07/2019 23:29

irstly, may I ask how on earth an English woman ever got into a relationship with an Eastern European man?

Eh??

BernardsarenotalwaysSaints · 12/07/2019 23:29

20 odd paragraphs? Really?

I think although I did glaze over in parts the TLDR is the op doesn’t want to sleep on the divan that came with the house (although her mattress may well be on top of it) her OH isn’t keen on her buying a new one but has possibly come round to the idea. Is she being unreasonable to want to buy a new one.

Cheby · 12/07/2019 23:29

You’ll likely end up bed sharing with the baby at some point; almost everyone does. Safest thing is to have a new, clean, firm mattress, no memory foam or pillow top. Just buy one and get it delivered.

SeaToSki · 12/07/2019 23:30

Why are you deferring to him on this? Why is he the boss of you? Sorry for the phrasing, but it's late...

You are a grown woman take control of your home. If it's not your home then re assess your relationship, why are you bringing a DC home to a place that is not your home.

PaintingOwls · 12/07/2019 23:33

MyKingdomForBrie

Eastern European men, particular those of a certain age, are very patriarchal and rigid in their views of gender roles and how women should behave.

Ontheboardwalk · 12/07/2019 23:35

Sorry couldn’t read it all

If I get the point of the thread buy a new bed.

Life is way too short to be in a bad bed

RosaWaiting · 12/07/2019 23:35

TLDR

Is the short version “I want a new bed”? Then get one.

Butchyrestingface · 12/07/2019 23:36

Firstly, may I ask how on earth an English woman ever got into a relationship with an Eastern European man?

Because she cut school on the day Mein Kampf was being read out. 🤷‍♀

tomatostottie · 12/07/2019 23:36

I have no idea why you haven't already organized some friends or the men with a van or somebody to move the bed from the garage upstairs.
If that's not possible - find somewhere to buy a bed which will deliver the bed and remove the old one.
Hell's Bells - I wouldn't be sleeping in someone else's dirty bed either.

BTW, the OP was far too long to read. I just skimmed it to get a vague idea about what it was about it but still lost the will to live half way through the skimming.