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Neighbour dispute - council properties

43 replies

Thump · 11/07/2019 17:17

AIBU to think that this is malicious?

About 6 months ago I got a phone call from the council re a complaint about noise coming from my flat.

The flat in question is one I have reported to the police on 3 occasions over the past 12 months for domestic violence?/disputes.

I gave him short shrift and said are they taking the piss as they are the ones who are making noise etc.

6 weeks ago a council person sent a letter telling me that THEY have complained about ME and came out to discuss the complaint. Would I consider mediation. I said that I wouldn't as there is no issue on my part and that I believed it to be a malicious complaint in revenge.

Yesterday I received an email from the council closing the complaint. I presume neighbour received similar email/correspondence.

Today!! I receive an email from the council saying that they've received a further complaint about me and could I come in for a meeting or blah blah they could escalate issue etc.

I have replied saying that A. I live on my own, whenever I'm watching tv it's Netflix with headphones in and that whatever complaints are being made are malicious, untrue and harassment at this stage.

Haven't heard back from the council - emailed about 12pm today.

AIBU to think that as these neighbours have children, that perhaps social services have become involved and they are launching a vendetta against me?

In the absence of being able to speak to the council person today - missed call, then received his email, I have no notion of what alleged complaints they have made about me.

I make no noise here as I live alone!

AIBU to launch a counter complaint for malicious harassment and if so, do I do that via the council or the police?

Thanks

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Thump · 11/07/2019 17:19

I don't have pets, I've laminate flooring and wear flipflops. So there is no way there can be any noise coming from my flat.

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Thump · 11/07/2019 17:21

That should read that the flat in question from where the complaint came............ is one I've reported

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Hairyheadphones · 11/07/2019 17:22

I would agree to meet to find out the exact nature of the complaints and to put my side across.

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Thump · 11/07/2019 17:24

I've emailed saying that I will not meet, that I want all correspondence in writing from now on and that once he provides me with details of the complaint I will seek legal advice depending on the content of the complaint.

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Tulipvase · 11/07/2019 17:26

It does sound like revenge. I imagine they may ask to put recording equipment in their/your flat to monitor noise.

The only thing I would question is the laminate flooring - certainly in our privately owned flats, any flats above ground floor aren’t supposed to have wood/laminate flooring due to the noise.

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Thump · 11/07/2019 17:29

Sorry, my mistake, not laminate, lino!!!

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LittleLongDog · 11/07/2019 17:29

I would want to meet to find out exactly what’s going on and to explain my side accurately.

I thought they give you a recording device to prove the noise? Did you do this? Do you know if your neighbours do this?

I've laminate flooring and wear flipflops
To be fair that is probably noisey for whoever is underneath you. Is that where the complaint is from?

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Thump · 11/07/2019 17:30

Yes, we're not allowed laminate unless we get council approved underlay.

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Omzlas · 11/07/2019 17:31

Although I see why you've declined mediation and to meet someone, that almost sounds like you've refused these actions as you have something to hide.

I'd have agreed to the meeting and taken sound recordings along yo back up my version of events.

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Thump · 11/07/2019 17:37

As I said, it's vinyl/lino - I get mixed up with laminate.

For reference, I'm here over 2 years, no complaint was ever made about me (same family), prior to me reporting the domestic incidents to the police. There is also a flat above me and they would surely hear any noise more than them? If there was any.............

I'm just wondering what can I do about a revenge/malicious/lying bastards complaint!!??

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Thump · 11/07/2019 17:40

I met the council in the first instance. Now that he has closed it, they've made further allegations about me! How the fuck can you defend yourself against lies - I've literally replied that I believe it to be malicious and they are welcome to escalate it to a more formal process as they threatened/intimated they would if I didn't cooperate.

There is ZERO noise coming from my flat! None!!

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LittleLongDog · 11/07/2019 17:41

As I said, it's vinyl/lino - I get mixed up with laminate.
If you look at the time you’ll see it was a xpost. (Although they can probably still hear you walking on that.)

I'm just wondering what can I do about a revenge/malicious/lying bastards complaint!!??
Agree to meet with the officials and see what they can do about it. Ask for a recording device to prove you have a genuine noise complaint and suggest that they also give one to downstairs so see if they have any ‘proof’ too.

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Thump · 11/07/2019 17:41

I tried to take sound recordings and tried to let the police overhear the screaming/shouting/roaring etc. but the phone just won't pick it up!

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ohhelloitsyou · 11/07/2019 17:42

Go to CAB and see what they think the best course of action is.

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Thump · 11/07/2019 17:43

Since the 3rd complaint to the police where the police came out, they haven't made any noise/zero arguments/I think the man has left - that was pre Christmas.

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ImNotYourGranny · 11/07/2019 17:43

You absolutely should not go to mediation with a violent neighbour who you have had to report to the police.

I think you need to make it clear to the council that this is revenge for reporting them and that they are being used to harass you by proxy. Tell them that unless they have independent evidence of you being a nuisance neighbour then they need to leave you in peace and stop doing the dirty work of your scumbag neighbour.

GabriellaMontez · 11/07/2019 17:44

Yanbu. Summoning you to a meeting without even telling you what it's about.?! Shock Time wasters. Let them escalate the issue.

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Thump · 11/07/2019 17:46

The police came out on all 3 occasions - just in case that wasn't clear by how I phrased that sentence. But there has been no noise since then - December last year.
But now they're reporting me!

Unless I'm arguing with myself unknown to myself it's completely malicious and I've fuck all clue what to do about it!

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Pollywollydolly · 11/07/2019 17:50

Is the council your landlord?

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Thump · 11/07/2019 17:50

(Although they can probably still hear you walking on that.)

I don't hear the neighbour above me so I don't think so.

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Thump · 11/07/2019 17:50

Yes, the council is my landlord.

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Hahaha88 · 11/07/2019 17:57

You look like an absolute pita tenant by refusing to meet to discuss it. Just go have the meeting with the council and discuss the issues

Hahaha88 · 11/07/2019 17:58

Pita from the council's view I mean. Which is likely to make them think the complaints are true

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Thump · 11/07/2019 18:00

Pain in the ass though I may be - I welcomed the council man into my house to discuss the initial complaint! I'm fucked if I'm going to be at the dance and song of some malicious cunts! They can take it to a formal process/court if they fucking like! No skin off my nose! I've done nothing wrong. I'm as quiet as a mouse. Half the day I'm not even here!

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Thump · 11/07/2019 18:04

For e.g. right now - I'm listening to music in my headphones and typing on MN.... That's pretty typical of what I do any time I'm here. I've no-one to talk to as I live alone so there's not even voices, never mind raised voices. I just can't wait to hear what shit they have complained about.

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