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Neighbour dispute - council properties

43 replies

Thump · 11/07/2019 17:17

AIBU to think that this is malicious?

About 6 months ago I got a phone call from the council re a complaint about noise coming from my flat.

The flat in question is one I have reported to the police on 3 occasions over the past 12 months for domestic violence?/disputes.

I gave him short shrift and said are they taking the piss as they are the ones who are making noise etc.

6 weeks ago a council person sent a letter telling me that THEY have complained about ME and came out to discuss the complaint. Would I consider mediation. I said that I wouldn't as there is no issue on my part and that I believed it to be a malicious complaint in revenge.

Yesterday I received an email from the council closing the complaint. I presume neighbour received similar email/correspondence.

Today!! I receive an email from the council saying that they've received a further complaint about me and could I come in for a meeting or blah blah they could escalate issue etc.

I have replied saying that A. I live on my own, whenever I'm watching tv it's Netflix with headphones in and that whatever complaints are being made are malicious, untrue and harassment at this stage.

Haven't heard back from the council - emailed about 12pm today.

AIBU to think that as these neighbours have children, that perhaps social services have become involved and they are launching a vendetta against me?

In the absence of being able to speak to the council person today - missed call, then received his email, I have no notion of what alleged complaints they have made about me.

I make no noise here as I live alone!

AIBU to launch a counter complaint for malicious harassment and if so, do I do that via the council or the police?

Thanks

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LittleLongDog · 11/07/2019 19:21

Well, do nothing then OP and wait for the next stage or for them to drop it.

Thump · 11/07/2019 19:32

Yes - I know I've done absolutely nothing so they can bring IT ON!
What else can you do?
When I see whatever the fabricated complaint is, I will immediately lodge a complaint with the council re harassment.
It's way too stressful.

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Bookworm4 · 11/07/2019 19:34

I would be accommodating and invite council person round and be pleasant and co operative but explain due to previous police involvement that mediation is out of the question. Present yourself as the better person.

Aj63 · 11/07/2019 19:44

I would check if you have any tenancy support agencies local to you
Shelter Wallich and Nacro are the main ones in my area. You can get help to argue your case with the council. Take yourself out of the equation

Thump · 11/07/2019 20:56

Thanks. I guess I have to wait for the council to tell me what the actual complaint is first before I can do anything.

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JudgeFlounceRedRugBlah · 11/07/2019 21:17

Meet the council and ask that they are helped to install sound recording equipment to record the noise from your flat. That way you are being complicit in the investigation whilst ensuring the prove there's no problem. If they record any problems you can feel with them. End of problem.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 11/07/2019 21:24

Say no to the mediation, however advise them they are welcome to put noise monitoring equipment into you home.

Surfskatefamily · 11/07/2019 21:24

It really is in your best interest to cooperate . You will be able to get the complaint closed. If you don't it won't help your case at all

Aj63 · 11/07/2019 21:50

You don't have to wait
An advocate from a tenancy support agency can speak to the council on your behalf and get the facts of the complaint.

Cherrysoup · 11/07/2019 21:55

Report to police. My tenant has had this with the neighbour making absolute batshit allegations. He was offered mediation via the council, pointless as the neighbour wouldn’t engage. The police have basically given her a warning and told the tenant that they know she’s making up bollocks (wild accusations that simply couldn’t be true) and she quietens down but then starts up again. It’s very upsetting for my tenant, but he tries to ignore her.

Anyway, you can involve the police

Redkatagain · 11/07/2019 21:56

You also have the option of seeking advice from your local councillors.

They can speak to the council officers and try to get to the bottom of what is going on

TotheletterofthelawTHELETTER · 11/07/2019 21:59

Did the council tell you which neighbour had complained or have you assumed it must be the one you have complained about?

Pollywollydolly · 11/07/2019 22:01

They do have a duty to investigate complaints. I know it's annoying but you would be better off co-operating with the council otherwise they won't know the complaints are groundless.

BlueSkiesLies · 11/07/2019 22:18

Agree to discuss with the council but not mediation.

State you had to report the neighbour to the police and the police attended three times. This is a revenge complaint and you do not feel safe at mediation.

SavingSpaces2019 · 11/07/2019 22:20

All you need to do for now is ask for details of the complaint and who complained.
Deny any allegations.....then tell the council to install a noise monitor in the complainant's flat to record the noise level.
They hate having to do that but is is procedure in noise complaints like this.
The only time i'd enter mediation is after the council have accepted - in writing - that you are not responsible for the noise or that the noise they hear is not unreasonable.

My ex-neighbors had a relative and a few friends working in the council and tried this tactic with me....they wanted me out so they could their own family in Hmm

Thump · 11/07/2019 22:27

I don't even know if it's a noise complaint - just that it's a complaint!

The council guy wouldn't tell me who made the complaint but said 'you know who it is'. That was when he was here 6 weeks ago.

The email today says we'ver received another complaint from your neighbour.

You don't need to be Einstein to work out who has a problem with me.

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Thump · 11/07/2019 22:34

I've replied by email saying that whatever allegations of whatever nature are being made are malicious and untrue. Apart from living in my house, alone, there is literally not a thing I am doing that could ever be perceived as worthy of complaint - assuming breathing is allowed.
I've asked him to put anything further in writing and that I will not co-operate with a meeting but am happy for him to escalate it as he sees fit.
I again reiterated the history and that this is a campaign of revenge on me.
I've said that this is stressing me and that I will put a complaint of harassment in against them once I receive the evidence of this complaint and that I will seek legal advice in such an event.
I'm not going to be harassed by these utter cunts.

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Thump · 12/07/2019 15:48

Just thought I'd update. The council guy rang again today.
So the complaint she has made is that I have been abusive to her and her daughter using swear words.

I swear on my daughter's life, that I haven't even bumped into them in 6 months and I have always said Hi and she just ignores me.

It transpires that police have reported her to social services, her husband/partner has moved out.

And I am target NO. 1.

I told the council man that he can take it to whatever process he wishes as I know I've never even passed them on the stairs in 6 months so she can do her worst. I told him that I wish to launch a counter complaint for harassment. So he is to send me an email detailing both complaints.

She believes the complaints I've made to police are malicious. No. It sounded like her daughter was being beaten on two occasions.

So there we are.

I'm less stressed today as what she has alleged is so nonsensical 'that I was abusive to her in front of her daughter' to not even require consideration.

So they can fuck off to the far side of fuck as far as I'm concerned. I've never spoken to the cunt once apart from when I took in a parcel for her when I moved in here over 2 years ago.

Walking cunt. She's making lies up about the wrong woman.

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