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My brother texting me instructions telling me how to behave!

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EL8888 · 05/07/2019 08:04

I have woken this morning to a text from my brother informing me my godmothers husband has had a stroke (l know this) and instructing me to be nice to our mother this weekend (she is coming to visit me). That’s literally all it says. More than just a little condescending and rude!

I’m fuming. For clarity he lives abroad, does his own thing 24/7 and keeps my Mum at arms length as much as possible. He claims he forgot my Mum’s birthday one year, cue no card / present / phone call. They share the same birthday so no excuse! In terms of our relationship it’s quite on his terms with him going off the radar for a month or weeks at a time. He often visits near where l live which l sometimes find out about after or during. I suggest meeting up but often he doesn’t even reply to my messages

My mother can be rather hard work. Things have to be her way or she escalates very quickly. When my Dad died her behaviour was very poor -arguing with all of his family, verbally abusing me (you didn’t love him, you let him down etc), refusing to go to his funeral as she hated the rest of us etc. They had been apart for 20 years by that point so an unusual reaction in many ways. My mum finds it impossible to see other people’s perspectives which means she can be quite tactless and unfeeling. My DP thinks l have the patience of a saint, just from the 20 line text messages she sends me! I challenge her behaviour when warranted, in contrast my brother feeds into it briefly, then jumps on a plane and disappears. Leaving the rest of us to deal with things

There is a huge back story -as there often is with most families so l am trying to include relevant information but not bombard! I’m trying to take a breath before l fire off a message back to my brother

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AliMonkey · 05/07/2019 12:13

@IvanaPee, between DSis and I, it absolutely would not be patronising and DSis would not read it that way. I guess it all depends on the relationship and whether you tend to read something offensive into the slightest thing.

Presumably you agree it wouldn’t be patronising to let her know about something that might have upset DM that they might not know about? And just saying the fact would feel a bit stark, so saying “be nice” is no different to saying “so she might be feeling fragile” or similar.

Actually in practice I probably wouldn’t text, I’d call. I’m not a big texter as it can so easily be misconstrued when you can’t hear the tone of voice.

I probably would feel a bit offended though if she contacted me to remind me to leave MIL’s house tidy!

PartOstrich · 05/07/2019 12:30

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DobbyLovesSocks · 05/07/2019 12:34

I've developed a thick skin when it comes to 'helpful' advice. My go to response is 'thanks' or 'duly noted' in a Mrs Brown's boys-eque 'that's nice' kind of way.

Someone said to me once that whilst you cannot change what people say to you, you can change how you react to it and so now I just don't rise (or at least I try). I'm trying to relay this to my 8-year old who gets teased at school (he is a tad sensitive bless him)

ACPC · 05/07/2019 12:42

I don't need you to tell me how to treat my own mother thanks. Now fuck off back to elevenerife you jumped off wee prick. *

*more polite ideas available on request

VenusTiger · 05/07/2019 14:03

I’ve just realised something OP - is it possible that your mom has been, to put it as mildly as possible, btchng about you to your bro. If so, he probably thinks you’re mean to her all the time and that’s why he’s said “be nice”.... just wondering

Juells · 05/07/2019 14:10

I had a huge spat with my sister when I was looking after my mother (we don't believe in nursing grievances, we let fly with both barrels 😂 ) and the district nurse told me it was a major cause of family fights. One person is landed with doing all the slogging away day to day, then a relative breezes in and points out how everything should be done differently, why isn't this that or the other being sorted out 😡

It makes the absent relative feel that they're contributing, when in fact they're just being annoying. Help, or piss off.

IABUQueen · 05/07/2019 14:32

I’ve just realised something OP - is it possible that your mom has been, to put it as mildly as possible, btchng about you to your bro.

I thought same thing. I don’t think it’s “bitching as such”, I think some mothers think it’s ok to get one siblings to help the other sibling get perspective on how the mum feels because some mums just have pride.

But yes comes across as unappreciative and taking advantage with the child who actually is putting all the effort while the other one just preaches and feels good about it all.

HollyBollyBooBoo · 05/07/2019 14:54

@EL8888 it works on Ex Husbands as well!

justilou1 · 05/07/2019 15:43

My father was and my brother is a rabid proselytiser. Drives..Me..INSANE!!! Your brother is doing this too. Has no fucking clue what's going on, so decides to control the universe. What a knob.

sanityisamyth · 05/07/2019 21:12

My sister does this. She reminds me when parents birthdays are (I have alerts set up on my calendars on my phone/iPad) and asks if I've sent them cards. Drives me fucking mad. I've now blocked her on Facebook messenger ...

WeeDangerousSpike · 05/07/2019 21:22

Reply 'who dis?' Grin

Juells · 05/07/2019 21:23

Reply 'who dis?

Oh yes! The perfect answer.

IABUQueen · 05/07/2019 21:33

I think some posters here are OTT. It’s fine for siblings to remind each other of stuff.. just not fine to preach in a condescending way to a sibling that puts much more effort than u

MitziK · 05/07/2019 21:44

My GC DB was similar recently.

My reply was 'Yeah, I'm an arsehole. But I'm not that much of one'.

I never specified if the second part was 'to be nasty to her right now' or 'to be a fucking patronising dick to my sibling who, contrary to maternal despatches issued to said GC, isn't a fucking cunt and is far more concerned about the imminent death of somebody she actually rather liked and liked her'.

Seemed to have the desired effect. He shut the fuck up and left me alone, rather than continuing as the big I'm Da Alpha Male Enforcer.

EL8888 · 05/07/2019 23:33

@Juells yeah it does smack at that! Ironically lm a nurse and that had gone through my head. It reminds of when you admit a patient, they settle into the ward, start to make progress and then the family rock up to tell you are doing everything wrong. Hmm you haven’t seen them in months and until now l didn’t know you existed?!

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EL8888 · 05/07/2019 23:38

@IABUQueen quite possibly. I’m not a fan of feeding into her demanding and over-wrought ways e.g. getting irritable when she re-arranges my property, not replying to her 6 text messages before 6am immediately etc. Which she gets unhappy about me doing then lm “bullying her” and “not doing as she says” -she thinks the dynamic should be lm her child and should always do as she says / commands. Hmm lm nearly 40 and she’s nearly 70?!

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IABUQueen · 06/07/2019 11:54

EL888 quick question.

Do you feel guilty about not being able to make your mum see your worth? About not being able to meet her expectations of you as her daughter? About not being able to make her life better?

If you do then you need to tackle it, then you can have a confident conversation... where you restate the dynamic between you and her and let her realize how much power you have in it, just like she does.

And open channels of communication so that she can tell u directly what she feels instead of going to your brother.

If you don’t tackle your guilt she could be feeling safe in that dynamic because that’s one way to keep you under her wings and never dare question her... it Could be that she is stuck in victim hood mentality and needs people to feel sorry for her constantly and so to achieve that plays on your guilt and on your brothers guilt which brings her more attention. It’s an unhealthy way that some parents developed from childhood because they don’t know how to tune into their feelings of abandonment or whatever, and instead manipulate their way into negative attention.

Sorry I’m getting deep here.. but the point is, the solution to all this is tackling why you feel so “guilty” and whether this is the driving force behind how much you do for your mum.. and only then can you realise that you are stuck in FOG and enabling your life to be in someone else’s control which will soon burn you out.

The healthy dynamic is for you to do as much as you are able to do, communicate that lovingly to your mother, and let her know how much of her expectations don’t work for you so she can find ways to get them from elsewhere. You owe her clarify and you owe yourself to not go beyond your means...

As for your brother, he needs to be questioned on whether he is doing all he can for his mother.. and if not then he should get busy with himself. And if he has issues and can’t do more, then fair enough but let him know you are doing more than your fair share because of him and expect him to acknowledge that.

Furthermore.. as far as it hurts, I think even though it shouldn’t be coming from him... but there might be an element of truth.. if there is lots of resentment and anger in the tone you speak to your mum, then it’s better to tackle that. It is best that you do less for your mum but limit your resentment than do more while sounding resentful. He needs to know he is part of the solution for that if your mum has needs to be met, as if he shares responsibilities then you would feel less exploited and less resentful.

Use this opportunity to open a conversation on your mums needs, and how you all need to discuss how they should be met without one person being exploited beyond their means.

Perhaps he could pay for some services for her? Perhaps he can visit her more? Is he having emotional issues that he needs to deal with which is why he is shutting everyone out?

EL8888 · 06/07/2019 14:11

@IABUQueen no l don’t feel guilty as far as lm aware. My mum always thinks she’s right and gets annoyed when anyone corrects her. She thinks l should take whatever she says as gospel and do as lm told. E.g. last night she was telling DP’s parents about my godmothers husbands bad stroke. He was discharged from hospital yesterday after less than a week, no operations required, no physical weakness, no physiotherapy or speach therapy needed so not a bad stroke (not that there are any good strokes). He’s been told to change his lifestyle -he was guilty of too much good living food and alcohol wise

To be honest l think lm best finishing off setting by brother straight on a few things and keep out of his way -not that that will be difficult! I’ve got lots of other things going on at the moment

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LostInNorfolk · 06/07/2019 16:40

No they do not. And why is ASD nearly always mentioned in such a context?. It shows a complete lack of understanding of what ASD actually is all about (and ASD does not equal abuse nor a personality disorder).

Yes it does. There are things in the OP that suggest autism. I think I understand quite a lot about it thanks.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 07/07/2019 01:57

LostinNorfolk - is this really what you meant to say??

"...(and ASD does not equal abuse nor a personality disorder).

Yes it does. ..."

Because you're seriously out of order, if you did.

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