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Expecting too much from my DP?

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M33r1ts2 · 04/07/2019 17:24

I’m getting confused. I do not know anymore how to ensure that our plans with my DP will come true, without me being the only one keeping these on track. Maybe I'm being unreasonable and expecting too much.. I do not actually know how to explain it. But recently I get this weird feeling that whenever we discuss the issue, it doesn’t get resolved and I’m out of ideas.

The issues occurs regarding any bigger plans. Like deciding to rent a new apartment, renovating a room, planning vacation, building a shelf, taking up a course – you name it.
To be honest, usually I am the one who suggests any bigger goals or plans. Sometimes we generate an idea together. So I talk about something or we come up with an idea and the overall conclusion is – let’s do it. And then everything falls apart if I do not keep it on track.
When I talk about the plan – hey, let’s do this or that or I thought we should proceed like this. He is discussing the topic with me and says yes; or he says that he has not thought about it; or he says he needs more time to think about it; or he just bluntly says it’s not a good time currently let’s do it later (e.g. renting a new apartment, he told me in spring that as he has new job and needs to settle first, then we should think about new apartment in the summer)
Then – nothing happens on his part. He never brings the topic up, never says whether he has thought about it. When I ask again, then he either says what he has thought (sometimes things he has thought about days or even weeks before I asked) or says he has not thought about it and just listens to my proposals again.

I have told him previously that I would like him to show more interest regarding these things, because it is exhausting for me to carry the emotional load all the time and it makes me wonder whether he is interested in these things at all (although at first he says he is) and if I constantly have to ask him then it feels to me as if I’m “nagging”. Also, he has said that I am rather impatient, and it takes him longer to think about things, so I try to control my impatience and wait for him to think things through. All I’m asking is that if he has though about it, then just “check in” and tell me about his thoughts without waiting until I ask. (I would actually like that he would also say “OK, I’ll take care of that part” and then he follows through without me asking again).

So, a few days ago I tried a new tactic and instead of talking, I wrote a few questions down generally about the topic. He thought it was a great idea and answered also by writing. In his answers he said he is very interested in any plans/goals, he is 100% on board every time, he is 100% willing and wants to contribute and also be in charge of things. So I asked him whether he agrees that the answers and the reality that I am experiencing do not really match up. He admitted that in some aspects yes, he agrees. We discussed it again, I again said what I have said previously.

But his answers left a strange feeling inside me… He said that

  • when he thinks about the plans then usually I’m not around at the moment and he cannot tell me about his thoughts (I’ve heard it before and suggested he could write it in messenger to me, and we have also developed a synced notebook for us both to use for such occasions which he could use)
  • and later when I am around, we have other more important things to talk about (we usually talk about our days at work, so I actually do not see how “my colleague said a funny thing” or “I ate broccoli today” could be more important than our joint plans)
  • and so he either forgets (I have suggested to write his thoughts down like he writes everything down at his job)
  • or he cannot find a good moment to talk about the thing (???).

He also said that if I do not ask then it makes him feel like I am not interested (which I heard the first time from his side and it actually feels like he has learned the sentence from me).

So it’s like a vicious circle… and it makes me so confused about what should I do. Is my only option really to become “nagging” partner, always reminding him what do to, always asking hat has he thought about this or that?

Sometimes it feels that it would be easier to do some things alone. But when I do, without involving him, then he basically accuses me of not consulting with him and that I’m impatient and inconsiderate as it is not fair that I decide things on my own and he feels left out.

What am I doing wrong? Am I expecting too much?

For example regarding the apartment that I mentioned in the beginning - is it right that I think that he should bring it up somewhere during the summer because he has set a time limit/condition to it and it depends on his "settling in his new job"? I guess in his books, I should again ask about it, because he forgets to talk about it or doesn't find a right moment or thinks I'm not interested if I do not ask?

OP posts:
sevenoftwelve · 04/07/2019 17:42

He's manipulating you and gaslighting you.

It's pretty much as simple as that.

He won't change.

timeisnotaline · 04/07/2019 17:47

That sounds like a lot of effort. Far too much effort for a healthy relationship.

Bookworm4 · 04/07/2019 17:50

Jeezo I was snoozing reading all that, why is everything analysed to the inth?

DisplayPurposesOnly · 04/07/2019 17:52

Agree with the others.

These aren't joint plans, they are your plans and he is not invested in them.

Time to make some plans that don't feature him at all...

Silverblues · 04/07/2019 17:58

That sounds exhausting. Perhaps you would be happier with someone more like you - I don’t think he’s going to change

ArgyMargy · 04/07/2019 17:59

Good grief he is not gaslighting you. He's just not that into making plans.

onanothertrain · 04/07/2019 17:59

I'm sorry but you sound incessant, maybe stop going on just for a wee while and you might get the response you are looking for. I think I'd stop listening to you to be honest but then you'd start writing me questions instead 🙄

SomewhereInbetween1 · 04/07/2019 18:06

You lost me at synched note pad

SavingSpaces2019 · 04/07/2019 18:09

You're making that classic mistake a lot of women make - taking on the mental load as default because your DP can't be arsed.

LTB. He's not invested in you.

Mintjulia · 04/07/2019 18:11

Maybe he’s absorbed in his job and doesn’t really mind if he moves or not. Anything to keep you happy.

Shooturlocalmethdealer · 04/07/2019 18:11

This was exhausting to read. I can imagine how your DP feels. Dont be so analytical dear. Life is to short.

hazell42 · 04/07/2019 18:12

I think he has one foot on the brake at all times. He says what he thinks you want to hear but doesnt really have any intention of following through.
You are clearly a go getting sort of person who will go far.
He isnt
One of you is going to dump the other very very soon.
Why not get in first

Missingstreetlife · 04/07/2019 18:13

He doesn't like change. If you want thing different it's your job to organise it. If you can manage that he'll go along with what you want.

Dontsweatthelittlestuff · 04/07/2019 18:14

Sounds all a bit stage managed to me. Who plans putting up a shelf? You see you need one, buy it and put it up so where does the planning come in?
Maybe if you only tried planning the larger things like a flat move or holiday he might engage more as I would switch off if there was too much trivia and miss the larger items.

QforCucumber · 04/07/2019 18:18

Isn't how you act how most people are? I make most suggestions about redecorating or holidays as they just don't interest dp and he wouldn't choose to arrange most things

WhereYouLeftIt · 04/07/2019 18:18

He wants you to do all the work. He doesn't bring things up in conversation, because that forces you to ask him and he then feels that he is in control with you running after him looking for his approval.

This is not a relationship between equals.

You have two choices :

  1. Continue as you are, with him.
  2. Find someone more in tune with you.

I know that sounds drastic, but really, this is a fundamental attitude-to-life mismatch. HE IS NEVER GOING TO CHANGE. It will always be like this, with him drifting aimlessly and you doing all the heavy lifting whilst being made to feel guilty.

Personally, I'd go with 2.

Nearlythere1 · 04/07/2019 18:24

Do you already live with him and are just considering a new place together or do you currently live separately? If the latter I think he is stalling because he doesnt want to.

If the former, I had a boyfriend like that once who was just happy to coast along. It was infuriating and we didnt work out, partly for that reason.

SandyY2K · 04/07/2019 18:30

Maybe you need to accept that you're not compatible.

You can't make him the person you want him to be and this will only get worse from your POV.

Dating is the time to assess suitably for a long term partnership... he's not the one...it's like trying to fit a square shape in a round hole.

freshasthebrightbluesky · 04/07/2019 19:00

Do people really plan every little thing together in such detail? Maybe I'm just a coaster but dh & I don't ever discuss plans in that way or "generate ideas". When we needed to move house it was just a case of saying we ought to put in for a transfer and then things just happened. Same as when we decided to get married - we didn't have any big sit-down discussions. I did some things and he did others. If he didn't show any interest in what I wanted to do, e.g. putting up a shelf or going on holiday, I'd just do it anyway and present it as a done deal.

In your shoes, if you're this annoyed by him not wanting to make such intricate plans, leave him because you'll end up spending your life either doing everything, nagging him or feeling like nothing gets done and like you're wasting all of your time.

MitziK · 04/07/2019 19:05

Maybe this might help

You say ---> He thinks

We should move I don't want to
We should redecorate I don't want to
We should go on vacation I don't want to
We should put up a shelf I don't want to
We should study I don't want to

We should talk I don't want to
We should message I don't want to

He just doesn't want to do these things. Any of them. So he forgets them, pushes them out of his head, doesn't talk about, puts conditions on to put them off. Anything but tell you the truth, which is that he doesn't want to do any of them.

Shitonthebloodything · 04/07/2019 19:18

You are a planner, he is not.

It's that simple. You are being left with the "mental load" or "wife work" or whatever because he's simply not interested enough to make it a priority.

If you are the sort of person that needs everything planned and detailed to the nth degree then it doesn't sound like you're compatible. Most people don't have synced notebooks to generate ideas together so if that's what you want, you need to look elsewhere. I was knackered just reading your post!

I think saying he's gaslighting is way over dramatic!

Swellerellamoo · 04/07/2019 19:33

Sometimes you just have to say- we are not compatible enough to have an easy , happy life together without daily struggles. It will be intolerable over the long run.

Motoko · 04/07/2019 19:48

Synced notebooks? Never heard of the like. I don't even stick to using just one notebook, I use whichever is nearest.

However, He just doesn't want to do these things. Any of them. So he forgets them, pushes them out of his head, doesn't talk about, puts conditions on to put them @MitziK has hit the nail on the head. He may agree with you, and act enthusiastic when you suggest something, but he's lazy, he really can't be bothered with it, because it's hassle, and more work for him. So, he doesn't mention it again, in the hopes that you will forget about it.

It's blindingly obvious.

So you need to decide what to do, leave him, or carry on being the one who always arranges everything, all the while, your resentment builds.

No point in trying to warn him his attitude is in danger of making you leave, he'll protest, tell you he doesn't want to split up (he doesn't, it would be more hassle than putting up with you "nagging" him) and promise to try harder. He may try harder for a few weeks, but he'll slowly slip back to his happy place. And then it will all start over again.

steff13 · 04/07/2019 19:50

He sounds kind of lazy, but you sound kind of full-on. I think you might just be incompatible.

geekone · 04/07/2019 19:59

You sound exhausting Confused

Maybe I am more like your DP but that level of ‘planning’ in my real life and not my work would do my head in.

Sorry.