To feel outraged at my friends re charity salaries?

[Pissedoffandbored]

Have a group chat going with a load of my girlfriends. There have been some additions to the group chat this week, some I know well and others are just acquaintances. One girl I don’t know sent a link to published salaries for charities. Girl didn’t know I work for a National Charity in a senior position and slated the amount I earn saying people don’t deserve to earn more than PM. At this point I interjected making her aware of my position and she proceeded to have a go at me. I defended my position but most of my friends agreed I earned too much since I worked for a charity.

So AIBU to be pissed off? Also, is this the general consensus or are my mates just dick heads?

You get paid over £150,000 - what do you actually DO that makes you feel you’re ‘worth’ that much money?

But to answer your question... I think it’s obscene that people who can barely afford to eat donate money to charity then do much is spent on salaries like that

Do you genuinely believe that your job of running a charity deserves better pay than the job of running the country?! YABVVVVVVU

If a large charity were raising £10m a year, and a new CEO comes in, and because of their previous success in business or politics, they had the contacts and the ability to increase the donations from £10m to £25m a year, why wouldn't you pay them £1m a year?

I don't understand why anyone would have an issue with that.

The other thing about the charity sector is that there is so much transparency. All the big ones publish very detailed reports showing exactly where the money is going. Staff salaries are public record.

Unlike private sector organisations which dont have to tell you anything.

But everyone e has a story about how they know someone biting up whole streets of property or boasting about having the temerity to earn a salary. Probably the same people who know for a fact that volunteers are either all stealing stuff from the charity or forced to be there against their will.

I will only donate to local charities.
There are a number of reasons and one is that I do not donate my meagre hard earned money to pay high salaries
two is that I won't donate to any charity that advertises on TV - another waste of money
And 3, My sister died in the Royal Marsden. When visiting I noticed they had a bespoke carpet in large areas with the logo woven in - again something my money isn't going to fund.
You may have 'turned your charity round' - all that really means is that money that people were going to donate anyway now goes towards your salary rather than other charities, some of which put a far bigger proportion of income to the actual cause rather than inflated salaries, tv advertising or bespoke items.

The amount people chose to donate is one factor that remains pretty static, all that changes is the charity they donate to.

If a CEO genuinely makes things happen and creates way way way more money than previously/comparatively etc then yes I can see how big bucks would work

I'd be livid if I gave Money to a Charity where there were fat cats bathing in cream though - truly good CEO yes - doesn't perform
Well one financially year - the boot - that's what the big bucks are about - perform and good stuff, fail then sacked

Because @Lifecraft, they should be doing it for tuppence hapenny because it's charity.

Kummerspeck
The reason will be something like this:
Business is traditionally a man's world.Being CEO is traditionally a man's world. Therefore these jobs need to pay well.

Teaching, social work, nursing, child care, care work, learning support etc are traditionally feminised roles and therefore people (women) do these jobs out of the goodness of their hearts and so wouldn t need higher pay.

I agree with the previous poster up thread who said they get low pay in a charity. They will do, because the front line work is often working with service users, supporting, building relationships etc and this makes it a feminised role traditionally. First rule about feminised roles is that people will have a good caring instinct and so don't need to paid properly.

"I defended my position but most of my friends agreed I earned too much since I worked for a charity.

So AIBU to be pissed off? Also, is this the general consensus or are my mates just dick heads"

BTW I smell bullshit....you work in a senior role in a charity and hadn't heard this before some 'girlfiends' talked about it on a whatsapp group?

Bollocks.

Probably a reverse.

I would suggest that people go to find out what top salaries what charities are paid.
For example Oxfam is the one most complained about here, but if you look at the Third Sector Comparison of top salaries it's near the bottom of the top 100. Buying up multiple houses my arse.
My charity pays our CEO more but I think that's fair. He works many many hours more than he should and has a huge load on his shoulders. He's also expected to be responsible for raising (though lots of ways not just old ladies giving 50p) millions AND use those millions to advance the cause.
I think of it as a donation. So I could earn double. Instead I work for charity and basically donate half the salary I could be earning into that charity.
And I work bloody hard because I know where my salary is coming from

Wow. I think YABU

I think its rude for a stranger to join a group and start having a go at people

Ignore them sorry id rather you earn that than the PM anyday

I'd say it's the general consensus. You can't have thickos running charities though if they want to be successful

I’ve made a point this year of donating more to charity and I would be frustrated if a charitable organisation DIDN’T make investments in it’s people. There are areas that really are a false economy to make savings in and I think key people is one of them. If you’re good OP, I want you making money and delivering results for charities that matter to me, not for investors (although... please deliver results for my pension, thank you please).

Lifecraft
If they had that sort of impact AND ensured those on the front line had reasomable pay and conditions, weren't pushing people to volunteer in the hope of a job which gets dangled as a carrot but never materialised etc then they could have the £1 million.

I'm not convinced the top dogs do ensure those on the front line are properly paid and valued for their skills though.

I did some pro bono work at a charity and I wasn't impressed. I'm sure a lot of senior bods are just in it for the MBE.

I don't have an opinion on your salary but why on earth were you admitting to a bunch of strangers on the internet that you earn such a high salary. That was never going to go down well...

I think you have 'outraged' MN with your salary...anyway when someone told me how much charities spend on admin they also said it was better to donate one's time or help someone directly rather than give to said charities, which seems sensible.

I think most people would be outraged by your salary and the way you have come across doesn't do you any favors. However, if most people here had your skillset to turn around a failing company, honestly, would they give up such a large salary??? If one had worked hard for years to get to that level, would you work for 40k as a CEO? Would you ever consider donating half your salary to your own charity?

Blooming Heck.
150K working for a charity - I hope it's a bloody big charity with a bloody small staff.

It's a bit like the church imv your doing the work for higher purposes - and therefore shouldn't earn as much as others in teh private sector.
Will reduce my donations (minimal now) further.
And 'increases donations to the charity' as mentioned above is scrounging more from the rest of society - not inventing a life saving drug so no, they don't deserve more.

It would depend upon what percentage of proceeds went to the charity, how much you bring in (personally and not just the team underneath you) and how much training and experience you have. So, if you have trained harder and for longer years than a Dr/consultant, or put in the hours that a prime minister does (having spent years climbing your way up through a cabinet), then possibly. But, personally I doubt it. I'm sure that you do a good job and work hard, but are you really worth twice that of a Dr? Of course you want to justify your salary. Why would n't you. I feel as though the salaries are too high. I feel this way about bankers too and many other financial jobs. My old CE ran a department of 800 staff in the civil service and did a truly excellent job. Worked all hours. Never stopped. She earned less than you appear to.

I dont think its A-ok that the private sector CEOs earn loads, especially if they make that money by misrepresenting what they do to people with nothing and make them think theyre giving to a good cause. I think its shit because its ultra capitalism, but theyre not on here writing a thread trying to justify themselves as helping people either

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEO_compensation_among_charities_in_the_United_Kingdom

This is interesting! I'm wondering if OP is one of this.

Your username is an odd choice for someone at CEO level

Sorry, but in the private sector, pay someone £1m and they bring in £5m and everyone's happy. But in the charity sector, earn above minimum wage and they are pariahs regardless of the the return on investment. Charity sector needs those who are educated, smart and quick. Not fuckwits who are unable to compete, bring income generation ideas to the table and raise the bar, especially if charities need money- to make a difference.

@Kummerspeck so true!