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Family situation

36 replies

poopofprettycolours · 27/06/2019 12:33

Long time lurker here. Am going to be honest. Am feeling so low and have a pity party going on and hoping for an honest perspective on a family situation.

My son, partner and grandson live in a different country to me – not far away – a ferry would get you here. They’re in their 30s and been together about 9 years.

My partner took my son on some 20 years ago and treated him as though he was his. Bio father never bothered to set up any contact, had nothing to do with them and didn’t pay a penny towards their keep. No involvement from ExH's family either – from grandparents to siblings. They knew where we lived yet there were no birthday cards, Christmas cards, visits, nothing.

Son and partner now live near her family and see them frequently, as you would expect. The grandparents are lovely people and am glad GS has lots of love and fun in his life.

Now for the dark clouds. Son and partner always broke. We’ve helped out hugely – last year amounted to about £5000. The last grand was to help them move. Not been invited over, not sent any pictures of the house. Like our involvement was purely for money.

We also send nice sums of money for each of their birthdays and Christmas. We sent £150 for the GS’s 3rd birthday recently but never got told what it went on. Had to nag son for pictures of him on his birthday. Asked if they had a party – apparently, they had a small one at grandparents and only invited people ‘round that way’. No pictures or happy updates.

I asked the partner about Instagram and she recently gave me access to an account she’d set up focusing on the GS so I get to see pics that way but the thing is, I just don’t feel we’re special.

We sent money for partner’s birthday and both of us followed up with a message to wish her a happy birthday and ask what she was planning, anything nice, etc. Got a Thanks, probably going somewhere xxx. But my partner’s birthday? Cards but no message. We don’t expect presents but it would be nice if she just sent a personal message. Son sends a message as well and gives us a call.

And recently, more money problems. Always money problems. Always short. The rub is, if they get money from partner’s family, it’s a loan and has to be paid back.

So I tried being a bit tougher and said I was short (which I was – dog and vet bills) and would have to be repaid. He said his partner had savings in an account but had mislaid passbook and was waiting for new one in post and would pay us back as soon as it arrived (approx. 10 days).

Fortnight later, son didn’t know if passbook had come but was now saying he couldn’t afford to pay us back that month… and was still short… so I sent a couple of hundred to help out. Stupid cow me?

I go from being worried about their situation to feeling hurt that we’re not included in their everyday lives. They come over maybe once a year – we pay their travel costs and take them out and about most days they’re here and send them back with presents. They don’t have much money but usually bring us some presents and will buy a bottle of wine to go with our evening meals now and again. I feel like they try to bring us something nice and appreciate that they do this for us.

He always thanks us for money and says what a huge help it is and thank you so much, etc. But then we’ll hardly hear from him for a while. To be fair, he will occasionally send a quick message about something or ask how we are but it’s not frequent.

I’m venting, I suppose, and crying. Am probably a soft twat for worrying about them and wanting to help. I don’t want to buy love, just want to help them get on their feet but it hurts so much to feel outside of their bubble until money worries come up again.

I don’t know how to handle the situation. My heart aches for some love and to have more involvement. My head tells me they’re self-absorbed and selfish. The cynic in me says she doesn’t like us (I am pretty sure she doesn’t) and is quite happy that we’re out of things and we’re mugs to help out so much.

What should I do? He’s my only son and don’t want to alienate him, partner and GS. Are they CFs? Are we mugs? What would you do? Am I being stupidly sensitive and feeling slighted?

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justilou1 · 27/06/2019 12:39

Stop paying. You know you are being taken for granted. If you stop playing this game, they will put MUCH more effort in!

MyOpinionIsValid · 27/06/2019 12:43

Did you move abroad or did they relocate to be near her family ?

newmomof1 · 27/06/2019 12:55

You can't buy his affection - just stop!
You don't need to give your adult son birthday money, especially when you've helped out so much financially.

Send a card and nothing else.
For GS, buy a present and ship it/get it delivered directly to their house.

fedup21 · 27/06/2019 12:57

No more money and tell him why when he asks.

Janedoughnut · 27/06/2019 12:59

You say they come over once a year. Do you go and visit them?

CitadelsofScience · 27/06/2019 13:03

I think we must have the same son. Stop giving them money, I did and although there are times I feel mean, I know I did the right thing.

ViolatedVegan1 · 27/06/2019 13:08

You sound like you are scared that if you stop giving them money you won't hear from them?

Could you arrange to go there and stay nearby?
Could you tell them how you want to be more involved? Ask to facetime with GS maybe so you have more contact with him?

Provincialbelle · 27/06/2019 13:17

I’m sorry but they won’t change anything unless you do. Stop sending money, and say you’d like to see more of GS and otherwise expect something in return

poopofprettycolours · 27/06/2019 13:45

Thank you for your responses.
I have visited them but since they moved just before Christmas they haven't asked. I've hinted.

Yes, am sort of bothered that if I stop helping out with cash I will lose all contact. Thing is, he's my son and think that parents help their kids out if they can. It's just never enough - they lurch from one financal crisis to another.

And I do feel mean when I don't help.

If they borrow money from her parents, the parents have a 'come to Jesus' talk first. I wish I'd been stricter.

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poopofprettycolours · 27/06/2019 13:50

I'm going to tell son our money is 'locked up' in some account that would be penalised if accessed it. The bank of mum and dad needs to be shut off.

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NoSauce · 27/06/2019 13:58

Definitely stop giving them money, they don’t sound like they’re really appreciative but rather expectant. It’s hard for you I know but it might make them sit up and realise how selfish they’ve behaved but it might not.

Could you talk to your son and explain how you’re feeling?

user1480880826 · 27/06/2019 14:08

Maybe more visits and less money? You say it’s mot far but it sounds like you hardly ever go. You say you’ve “hinted” about going but perhaps you need to stop being so timid and just tell them you want to visit and suggest a date?

They’re massively taking the mick with asking for money so frequently. They are in their 30s and should not still be dependent on you. It sounds like they need a tough lesson in financial management. Why are they living beyond their means so much? Borrowing from both sets of parents sounds like some pretty shit financial planning.

PutTheBassInYourWalk · 27/06/2019 14:45

Why are you putting the blame on your son's partner, when he is your child, not her? "It would be nice if she sent a personal message" "I asked the partner about Instagram". Why does she need to have more contact with you? Because you've "given" them money (with strings attached)?

If you don't want to give them money, then don't. If you want more contact, speak to your son about it. I'm not sure why it's his partner's responsibility/fault.

MyOpinionIsValid · 27/06/2019 14:53

Di you move away or did they relocate to be near her parents ?

NeedAUsernameGenerator · 27/06/2019 15:04

You should stop giving them money because they're not learning to live within their means. Offer help with budgeting or to look over their finances next time they ask. Relationships sound amicable but you'd like to see them more. How about just asking if it would be convenient to visit in July/August/September some time? Or offer to book them tickets to come to you? I don't send my MIL or FIL a birthday message, DH sends one from all of us and I do the same for my family so I think you're being oversensitive on that matter.

Cismyfatarse1 · 27/06/2019 15:09

My response to any requests for money would be to say, "Maybe but we will need to talk about it when we see you next." or "Let's have a chat about it on Skype when you next call us with GS." You need to teach them how to behave properly. "Oh, I had hoped you had texted to send me some photos of GS. Never mind. Got to go now."

Meyoumeanmeh · 27/06/2019 15:41

£150 for a 3 year olds birthday- no wonder they just assume you have money to hand over!
I wouldn’t send them any more. I think telling them it’s tied up is a good idea.
I don’t understand why you expect her to message your partner on his bday though if DS messages/phones? I’ve been married 20 years and have never felt the need to separately message my in laws. DH sends a card from us and phones them himself & I do the same with my family.
Why are you waiting for or hinting for an invite? Why don’t you just say “we’d love to come over and visit you and DGS, when would be a good time?”

coffeeaddiction · 27/06/2019 15:50

Stop paying and I would suggest you stop making excuses too , just be honest and let them know how used you feel .

Jupiters · 27/06/2019 17:34

Like others have said you need to close down the bank of mum and dad.

Although it should be your son that you look to for maintaining the family bond, not his partner. DH and I have been together 11 years and we've never done seperate birthday wishes. He sends them to his side, I send them to my side, in both of our names.

purplelila2 · 27/06/2019 19:07

It's up to your son to maintain a relationship with you the onus isn't on his partner.

I've never messaged my in laws to say happy birthday and it wouldn't occur to me to do so that's up to my husband.

MyOpinionIsValid · 27/06/2019 19:10

£150 for a 3 year olds birthday- no wonder they just assume you have money to hand over!

That's isn't an unreasonable amount for GPs to spend on a GC

Andylion · 27/06/2019 19:29

He said his partner had savings in an account but had mislaid passbook and was waiting for new one in post and would pay us back as soon as it arrived (approx. 10 days).

Passbook? Is that what we used to call a bank book in Canada? I didn't know they still existed, or if they did, that you'd need them to send money to another person's account.

SuzieQ10 · 27/06/2019 19:40

It sounds like maybe you should visit them. If they have a small house / flat and it's not easy to accommodate, could you stay locally and make a nice break out of it?

The money think sounds uncomfortable but I think it's partly down to you to involve yourself in their lives by going over for short visits. If they come to you once a year could you go there at least once or twice a year to see them and look after grandson. It's likely easier for you to travel than it is for them with a young child. I'm not making excuses for your son, he's clearly not been thoughtful, but it's not black and white.

Leeds2 · 27/06/2019 19:51

Next time they ask for money, tell them that they will be receiving nothing more until they have paid back what they owe. This should at least be the equivalent of the amount relevant to the "missing" passbook incident. And when they plead poverty, ignore. Or tell them you are broke too.
Send your DGS a gift for his birthday, rather than cash. Because I would guess the cash isn't spent on him. Maybe send clothes, and a small toy, as they might find a practical present useful.

swingofthings · 27/06/2019 19:53

What's their situation? Why are they broke? Do they work? Personally I would help financially if they were struggling for genuine reason. If it is that both don't want to work FT, or they chose a house, car, luxuries they can't afford, I would say sorry but I can't keep helping out financially.

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