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To think we can take our country back?

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wheresmymojo · 27/06/2019 07:12

Here we are - stuck in some kind of batshittery where we're going to have Boris Johnson as our PM, we're going to leave the EU and our only 'friend' will be a man with a shit toupee who thinks sexual assaulting women is something to brag about.

I've been watching it all unfold and feeling helpless while the country I love descends into madness at the hands of a bunch of mainly white, rich, male arseholes who don't even know what the truth is anymore.

But it's occurred to me that there are only 160,000 Conservative party members. In the whole scheme of things that's nothing compared to the number of Mumsnetters!

I know the Tories have been shysters but imagine if we could join the party and push it towards compassionate Conservatism.

I realise this still wouldn't be everyone's bag - but surely it would be better to have a party of compassionate Conservatives than the shite we currently have moving ever further to the right.

It's too late to avoid Brexit and too late to avoid Boris but if anyone on Mumsnet who has ever previously voted Conservative joined the party we could organise, join forces with lovely Rory the Tory, put our best 'stern Mother'* faces on and tell the hard righters to fuck off to some horrible little niche party which will never get into power.

It's £2 a month to join - together we could actually make a huge difference to the country while putting the gender balance to rights at the same time.

Isn't it worth it just to see the faces of Mark Francois, The Mogg et al?

Imagine what we could do to turn around the party's education policies!

Think Momentum but made up of nicer human beings with fairer tactics and better hair.

What do you think?

*You don't need to be a mother to do a stern mother face, I don't have children yet as TTC

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honeygirlz · 27/06/2019 07:15

Would I be allowed to vote for next Tory leader as a member?

BogglesGoggles · 27/06/2019 07:16

The conservatives are already left of centre. How much more ‘compassionate’ do you want them to be. I’m not a fan of BJ but would rather live in a country with a prime minister like that than a country with only a choice between socialist parties. But then again I have the luxury of choice and the benefit of experience. Maybe someone who has lived here all there lives sees it differently.

BogglesGoggles · 27/06/2019 07:16

@honeygirlz yes

FourEyesGood · 27/06/2019 07:16

As I understand it, new members can’t vote.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 27/06/2019 07:17

It's too late to join for the purpose of electing the next leader.

I could never join the conservatives.

AlaskanOilBaron · 27/06/2019 07:17

Would I be allowed to vote for next Tory leader as a member?

No, you have to be a member for a period of time, I think three months, before an election transpires. Too late. Sorry!

You can lobby me to sway my vote, if you wish. Wink

FourEyesGood · 27/06/2019 07:19

Just checked - yep, three months.

To think we can take our country back?
FourEyesGood · 27/06/2019 07:22

By the way, I know no-one here knows me in real life or anything, but I’m suddenly a bit panicked at the idea that you might all think I’m a Tory. I’m not, and never will be.
I’m a member of the Green Party.

ShinyMe · 27/06/2019 07:25

Don't forget OP, Boris Johnson would be able to claim that it's his influence causing this huge rush of membership, and he would likely stay as leader even longer. And a load of new members will have no influence at all over future direction of the party against the power of the public schoolboy mobs.

Not that I will ever vote Tory or have anything to do with them anyway, but I don't think it's a workable plan.

ScreamingValenta · 27/06/2019 07:34

I think the problems in the UK at the moment are bigger than any one party, sadly. I'd join any non-extremist party if I thought it would help, but I think it's gone beyond that now.

marvellousnightforamooncup · 27/06/2019 07:38

The Conservatives are already left of centre 😂😂😂😂😂🤔

Bezalelle · 27/06/2019 07:41

I would rather gouge my eyes out with hot kebab-sticks and feed them to hounds than join the Conservative party.

Lifeover · 27/06/2019 07:42

Biscuit my first ever op!

You know what you will never stop Brexit. If all people had united behind the choice of the people in the first place we would be out now with boris not knocking on the door of number ten with TM able to actually have time to consider other things rather than managing power hungry people holding themselves out as morally and intellectually superior.

derxa · 27/06/2019 07:47

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leckford · 27/06/2019 07:49

Momentum are an extremely nasty group, mostly I guess the usual suspects who protest about everything, who want communism for some reason. Also anti Jewish people.

AnAC12UCOinanOCG · 27/06/2019 07:52

leckford I don't protest about everything, I don't want communism, and I'm not anti-Jewish.

vampirethriller · 27/06/2019 07:52

I'm never going to vote tory.

wheresmymojo · 27/06/2019 07:55

Don't forget OP, Boris Johnson would be able to claim that it's his influence causing this huge rush of membership

We would tie up with Rory the Tory and do media pieces to make it clear that's not the case

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wheresmymojo · 27/06/2019 07:57

I'd join any non-extremist party if I thought it would help, but I think it's gone beyond that now.

This has a chance of helping, doing nothing is the best route to not helping at all isn't it?

You know what the saying is about bad things happening when good people stay silent

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wheresmymojo · 27/06/2019 07:58

@Lifeover

My first ever biscuit!!! Thanks, it's almost like an honour WinkGrin

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 27/06/2019 08:00

The conservatives are already left of centre.

Fucking hell. Presumably you think Hitler, Mussolini and Franco were only slightly right of centre then?

wheresmymojo · 27/06/2019 08:01

You know what you will never stop Brexit

This isn't about stopping Brexit, it's too late for that. This is about stopping the move to the harder right.

And having a party with policies that make sense...

You know maybe with educational policies developed by people who have worked in schools. And a Minister for Health that's...shock horror...worked in the NHS.

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pepperpot99 · 27/06/2019 08:02

Electing Boris Johnson is the UK's Trump moment. His election to this high office is symptomatic of the way that more generally, worldwide, we have allowed lies to become truth and for there to be no moral absolutes anymore. Truth has become entirely subjective and merely 'alternative facts' (thanks, KellyAnne).

It's about the personality as well isn't it? My NDN for example, couldn't give a stuff about BoJo's vile racism and perpetual dishonesty, as she just 'likes his personality'. Go figure. I see politics these days as a TV reality show where you vote for the one who makes you gasp/laugh/ stare the most.

Labour and Tory is no longer merely about left Vs right; it's also- perhaps more importantly for a lot of folk - about anti Semitism Vs anti Islam. Politics is now inextricably interwoven with race. Labour is tainted by anti Semitism and Tories by Islamophobia. I want no part of that.

What to do? dunno. It is profoundly depressing.

NasiGoreng · 27/06/2019 08:06

I’m a Tory. I’m not, and never will be.
I’m a member of the Green Party.

Clearly you missed the whole Caroline Lucas throwing women under a bus shambles last year. I'd rather be a callous, cold hearted Tory than vote for Caroline Lucas who is the biggest virtue signaller and hypocrite on the planet.

wheresmymojo · 27/06/2019 08:07

We can't change them from the outside.

There are only 160k members....if even 1% of MNers joined we could force an inquiry into Islamaphobia

We don't need to be helpless.

And I'm not suggesting people who would never vote Conservative in a million years even if it was a compassionate/One Nation Tory party join.

But there are loads of us in the centre who might have voted Tory once upon a time before austerity and the current dog whistle politics.

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