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AIBU?

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To not want my neighbours to dismantle my fencing?

132 replies

lipslovelylips · 25/06/2019 19:50

I live on the end of a terrace with no access to neighbours gardens apart from through my side gate. My neighbours have a large wooden building in their garden that they put in a couple of years ago and took my fence down to get it in, the gate was never put back properly and now doesn't bolt properly. They have now put a note though my door today telling me they now wish to remove it and will need to take my fence down at 9am tomorrow, I'm not even going to be in! I responded saying that that's not convenient for me and I want to be in if they do it and that won't be until Friday. I would rather them not do it all tbh. Then about half an hour ago they were knocking loudly on my door for about five minutes and I ignored it. Aibu? I don't even think my fencing will withstand being taken down again.

OP posts:
Bookworm4 · 26/06/2019 10:17

@Enko
Your post is truly ridiculous,you didn’t want your neighbours dad in your garden cutting back a tree? Did you think he was going to break in and attack your teenagers?
Jesus wept, I really worry what future adults will be like if this is their bizarre parents 🙄

HostessTrolley · 26/06/2019 10:17

But right of access through the garden, if it exists, still isnt the right to dismantle the fence...

ScaryBunnyPainting · 26/06/2019 10:21

OP you’re getting a hard time here.
The next door neighbours are asking for a favour, they shouldn’t have put in place arrangements for a trailer until they had your OK that it was permissible for them to tamper with your property. They should have allowed more than a day for you to give your permission, what if you had been away?

You have the say over when you do or don’t answer the door to your house. Perhaps you hadn’t made up your mind in the short time between the note and them coming banging last night, you shouldn’t have been put on the spot. You are not on call to answer their enquiries as and when they please because they are making demands.

It is dealt with thus. You tell them they damaged your gate last time and you have no guarantee that they won’t further damage your gate and fence. If they wish to lodge a deposit with you, then they can go ahead with their works, if not they can find an alternative route.

As to the people insisting there must be an easement or right to access, I live in an end terrace and have neither of these over my property. They are common in some areas and not in others.

CatG85 · 26/06/2019 10:27

I'm really shocked at all the people who think YABU.
They didn't really ask your permission did they, they told you as it was already booked. Personally I don't think YABU at all, it's your fence which you've let them take down twice before and it's not been put up properly afterwards.
You DO NOT need to answer your door if it's not suitable for you. They left you a note, you replied the same way. They shouldn't have assumed it was ok and booked the trailer (regardless if it was the only day they could do or not, so what?!) until they had agreement from you that it was ok. If you want to be there but have work, that surely takes president. You didn't say no, you tried to be flexible, they haven't.
They are CF's and I hope you've told them so in a round about way when you've got home.

PepsiLola · 26/06/2019 10:37

If it's not convenient for you they should break it down in their garden and bring it through their house/front door!

It's not your responsibility

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 26/06/2019 10:41

Your post is truly ridiculous,you didn’t want your neighbours dad in your garden cutting back a tree? Did you think he was going to break in and attack your teenagers?
Jesus wept, I really worry what future adults will be like if this is their bizarre parents 🙄

I'm not Enko, but they are perfecty in their right not to want anyone in their garden cutting their trees? Surely?

HolyMilkBoobiesBatman · 26/06/2019 10:48

@TheInvestigator I quite agree and my posts have all been defending the OP for making the same decision. It’s other posters such as @CassianAndor who seem to believe OP was in the wrong.

PeoniesarePink · 26/06/2019 10:51

Given they didn't place it back properly last time, it would be a massive no from me and a solicitors letter.

SlothMama · 26/06/2019 10:54

They are being very cheeky, to give you a days notice and not ask permission would massively piss me off. Did you tell them that they caused damage last time?

Snowy81 · 26/06/2019 11:01

If they left the gate in an unfit state last time, what did you did to get them to rectify it? Spoke to them? Asked them? Or said nothing and just whinged?

If you’d answered the door last night, like most normal people do to their neighbours, you could have sorted it properly. They were probably asking because they’d managed to get a trailer last minute, and some help, and therefore Friday they would have been unable too. No good complaining they woke your daughter this morning, they tried to talk to you about it last night.

Whatever happened to neighbourly relations?

Nesssie · 26/06/2019 11:20

What @Snowy81 said. Yes, technically you don't have to let them through your garden, but I think you have made this into a bigger thing than it had to be. They aren't being cheeky asking to dismantle the fence as they've asked before and you said yes!

TantricTwist · 26/06/2019 11:22

They can just take it through their own house like normal people.

No need to dismantle your fence Confused

Do take photos.

TantricTwist · 26/06/2019 11:24

I'd be really annoyed that they didn't fix the gate first time round and certainly wouldnt let them do it again.

Veryveryouting · 26/06/2019 11:25

The OP isn't at fault because she never said "no" the first. That is irrelevant because last time it wasn't fixed back 100% correctly when she probably assumed it would be. So it is fair enough if OP does not want to risk that again.

It is also not up to the OP to be available to talk to them and answer her door when they've made the decision to ask (actually, it sounds like they didn't ask) that the OP allows them to do so in less than 24 hours.

I can't understand how in any way that the OP is at fault here.

MulticolourMophead · 26/06/2019 11:26

Neighbourly relations doesn't mean rolling over and being a doormat.

The neighbours should have come along and asked permission. They told OP in the first note, they didnt ask. They are the ones in the wrong.

lipslovelylips · 26/06/2019 11:36

Well I came home and went round, it's a bit of a sad situation really. The lady who lives there was in a bit of a state, her husband has upped and left her for her friend and she has ran up debts as she is waiting for universal credit payments. She has decided to sell this thing in her garden to raise some money and the buyers had in fact paid for the trailer to be moved and this was arranged 2 weeks ago, however she failed to tell me. I begrudgingly agreed to let them do it and I'm just hoping I still have a fence when I get home. I am not a heartless bastard and I do feel sorry for her but I did explain that her domestic situation is not really my problem.

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Nesssie · 26/06/2019 11:37

But did she tell them it wasn't put back correctly? How would they know or have the chance to fix it if they weren't told?

In their heads - neighbour kindly let us go through her garden to install this building. All fine, no problem, lovely neighbour. Now need to remove it (presumably too big to go through house) - obvious answer is to ask the neighbour to go through the garden again.

Nesssie · 26/06/2019 11:38

the buyers had in fact paid for the trailer to be moved and this was arranged 2 weeks ago, however she failed to tell me This is where the neighbour is in the wrong.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 26/06/2019 11:39

I think I would have done the same, begrudgingly.

But she should have told you about this 2 weeks ago, and if she doesn't replace your fence in perfect working order then she needs to either mend it or replace it. Hope all's OK when you get home later!

TheInvestigator · 26/06/2019 11:39

Did she explain why she didn't bother to ask you? And dies she realise she can't "tell you" but she actually needs to ask.

CassianAndor · 26/06/2019 11:41

lips that is a sad tale. Fingers crossed your fence is OK. Regardless of her circumstances, she will be responsible for making good any damage.

lipslovelylips · 26/06/2019 11:41

She said she thought she had already spoken to me about it but she must have got confused as she had so much going on but she was a bit sheepish.

OP posts:
PepsiLola · 26/06/2019 11:45

Let's hope this is the last of it.

Your neighbour is in the wrong but I would have agreed given the circumstances too

WhereDoesThisToiletGo · 26/06/2019 11:45

You're being really nice OP.
Kudos to you

Pinkyyy · 26/06/2019 11:50

OP you really should have got something in writing. Is she's struggling for money then she's not going to pay for damages. Of course you can be sympathetic to her, but it shouldn't cost you anything.

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