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To not want my neighbours to dismantle my fencing?

132 replies

lipslovelylips · 25/06/2019 19:50

I live on the end of a terrace with no access to neighbours gardens apart from through my side gate. My neighbours have a large wooden building in their garden that they put in a couple of years ago and took my fence down to get it in, the gate was never put back properly and now doesn't bolt properly. They have now put a note though my door today telling me they now wish to remove it and will need to take my fence down at 9am tomorrow, I'm not even going to be in! I responded saying that that's not convenient for me and I want to be in if they do it and that won't be until Friday. I would rather them not do it all tbh. Then about half an hour ago they were knocking loudly on my door for about five minutes and I ignored it. Aibu? I don't even think my fencing will withstand being taken down again.

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GabriellaMontez · 26/06/2019 08:27

"They gave you a chance"!!!!

It's the other way round grumios. They are the ones who need a favour. Not the OP. There are plenty of good reasons inc the op's why 12 hours notice is just not enough.

diddl · 26/06/2019 08:34

They had obviously decided that they were doing it today & just informing Op.

Presumably there was no way of leaving it all locked up so that there was no access for them?

springydaff · 26/06/2019 08:34

Talk to the police. 101. They are great with issues like this.

YANBU. At all, in any way. They are bullies. Are you a single woman? Me too and neighbours think they have the right to trample all over me and my property. No amount of reasonable discussion went anywhere which is why I had to get the police onto it. I don't get any trouble now.

Meyoumeanmeh · 26/06/2019 08:38

If my fence collapses who's going to pay for it?

That’s what I would want to know!

Moondancer73 · 26/06/2019 08:45

I think you've been more than reasonable and if I was your DD I'd ignore them and make them wait until Friday.
Either that or if you have to leave work I'd be billing them for loss of earnings, they're being totally unreasonable and sound more than a bit belligerent to be honest.

chuttypicks · 26/06/2019 08:46

Are you home yet op? Any news?

legoqueen · 26/06/2019 08:46

What difference would have more notice made? From your other comments, you still wouldn't have been keen on this.

charlestonchaplin · 26/06/2019 08:55

You should just refuse to allow them to take down your fence a second time. Unless that fence is quite new it could well not survive being messed about a second time. Even if you get their agreement to make it good in writing, you can only enforce that by going to court. From their behaviour now it is likely that once they’ve got what they want from you, they won’t care if you are unhappy about the state of your fence once they’re done with it. When they bought their house, they knew its limitations.

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 26/06/2019 08:55

YANBU at all. Especially given the damage caused to your gate last time. That's something you should bring up with them, along with the fact they should be asking you for permission not informing you and the need to give appropriate notice.

FamilyOfAliens · 26/06/2019 08:58

What difference would have more notice made? From your other comments, you still wouldn't have been keen on this.

The OP said she’s given permission for her neighbours to do this twice previously. Both times the fence was damaged. Too right she’s not keen.

Brefugee · 26/06/2019 08:59

They had obviously arranged the trailer etc and were telling you rather than asking. So I'd be bringing that up with them.
You offered Friday - if that wasn't convenient to them, they should have replied with a counter offer. They can't expect you to arrange a day off work with nearly no notice, so I'd also be pointing out to them that it is a great inconvenience that you have had to leave work to suit them.

And then check your deeds to make sure about the access issue. If they have access, I'm guessing there is some kind of "regulation" about how and when and how much notice has to be given.

Hope your fence/garden/DD are ok.

tenlittlecygnets · 26/06/2019 09:01

They are very U. They gave you hardly any notice and have not been flexible about changing the date to the one you suggested. You could have been out last night or away for a few days. They should not have left it until then to contact you.

Who does this without speaking to their neighbour properly first?? Beyond cheeky and rude.

Hope you get it sorted. Update us when you can...

tenlittlecygnets · 26/06/2019 09:02

Agree with others - check the access issue. Do they have an easement or are they being cheeky? Tell them about the damage to the fence last time and ask them to pay to make good.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 26/06/2019 09:06

gree with others - check the access issue. Do they have an easement or are they being cheeky? Already answered, way back. No easement, no right of way, just CFers expecting her to say yes as she has done twice befre, when they caused some damage!

Pinkyyy · 26/06/2019 09:06

Don't let them lay a finger on your fence until you have it IN WRITING that they are liable to pay for any damages.

But like @grumiosmum said, you didn't make an agreement for Friday. You said that Friday would suit you, they didn't confirm that so there was no agreement.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 26/06/2019 09:08

They are being cheeky by just assuming it was OK and obv hiring a trailer in advance. But if you'd answered the door last night, you could have discussed this instead of having to now leave work to sort it out.

blushmelikeyou · 26/06/2019 09:09

Yes they are been CFs and should of asked permission way before but you should of talked to them last night.

tenlittlecygnets · 26/06/2019 09:10

Oops, sorry Samphire, I didn't see that. In that case, they are unfeasibly cheeky.

But if you'd answered the door last night

But OP could have been out last night, or away on holiday. Neighbours left it far too late to speak to her.

eddielizzard · 26/06/2019 09:15

They're being bloody inconsiderate and should have asked you with adequate notice.

Poloshot · 26/06/2019 09:15

Phone the police if they take your fence down without your consent

TheInvestigator · 26/06/2019 09:19

The problem is that you've allowed them to do this twice already, so they now think they are entitled to do as they please. You just have to keep saying no, and you need to point out that they actually broke it on one of those occasions so now your gate doesn't close properly. It's your fence, they have no right of way and you don't want them trailing things through your garden or dismantling your fence. Just keep saying no; because they will come back and want to do something else!

CassianAndor · 26/06/2019 09:20

Obviously the neighbours are completely in the wrong but you have been really flimflammy, OP. You should have simply said 'NO' right at the beginning, instead of giving them a way in by saying nothing is to happen unless you're there. And yes, you should have sorted this out yesterday evening, in daylight, at a perfectly respectable time.

Isatis · 26/06/2019 09:24

If my fence collapses who's going to pay for it?

Maybe that's one of the things they wanted to talk to you about last night?

IncrediblySadToo · 26/06/2019 09:25

YWBVU not to have answered when they knocked yesterday evening 7:30 is hardly an unsociable hour. If you were that uncomfortable talking to your neighbour in your PJ’s You could have got dressed and then gone next door. You’ve brought this mornings episide on yourself.

Would it have really hurt you to say ‘yeah, that’s fine but this time it needs to be out back properly , it wasn’t last time’

You’re making mountains out of molehills

Maybe today was the only day his mate was off work & could help, you don’t know ‘why today’ because you didn’t bother to speak to them.

HolyMilkBoobiesBatman · 26/06/2019 09:27

I really don’t understand all the posters implying this is OPs fault for not ‘sorting it’ yesterday evening. OP didn’t feel comfortable to talk with them at the time they came over. She already said she tried to talk to theM but got no answer which is why she put the note through.

OP made her feelings clear to the neighbours in her note stating that she didn’t want this to happen whilst she was out, offered them Friday instead. She has been perfectly reasonable with them but the CF neighbours next door gave her 12 hours notice and are barrelling ahead with their work despite knowing that OP hasn’t agreed to this and yet OP is in the wrong? Confused

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