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to be upset and rious and to want to take further action

43 replies

theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 16:02

I am actually looking for advice, posting here for traffic and because I am not sure what topic this fits into!

The essence of the story is that a company has potentially lost something very precious to me, although it has little monetary value, and I wonder if people have views (including maybe from people who know the legalities better than I do) on what I can do.

The longer version: My engagement ring is not worth much in money terms (silver not gold, no precious stone), but of course, being my engagement ring, it has great sentimental value to me. But also, very importantly, because of where it came from and the circumstances surrounding its purchase, it is completely irreplacable.

It needed some repairs and I found a company online that repairs this very specific type of jewellery. They said they could help, seemed very clued-up and responsive, and so I posted it to them. They emailed me back the next day confirming receipt and even attaching a picture of the ring to show they had it. They were going to get the jeweller to look at it and then give me a quote for repair.

Two weeks went by and I didn't hear from them so I emailed them to ask what was happening. After three days (and repeated emails from me) they emailed teling me that they had posted the ring (Royal Mail tracked) to their repair lab or whatever, but it had been lost in the post. They were trying to find out from Royal Mail what had happened and they hoped to find it, but right now it was lost.

This was incredibly upsetting, obviously. If they do not find it, what are my options? In money value it probably is not even worth more than a hundred pounds, but it is worth much much more to me, of course. I could, I presume, demand that they pay me out the value of the ring, but that does not even start to compensate me for what has been lost.

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HarperIsBazaar · 23/06/2019 16:04

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theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 16:04

Sorry, heading should have said upset and furious!

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theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 16:05

That's what they say, yes

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Omzlas · 23/06/2019 16:07

The company hasn't lost your ring, Royal Mail had

Its frustrating nonetheless, but your frustrations are directed at the wrong company

DaisyCarrington · 23/06/2019 16:07

I would think the repair company is liable (not Royal Mail) as OP's contract is with the company.
However I also think that compensation would be limited to the monetary value.

DaisyCarrington · 23/06/2019 16:09

The problems with Royal Mail are not OP's problems. She entered a contract with the repair company and if an agent of theirs (RM in this case) lost it, they are liable.
They will subsequently be able to claim compensation from RM if they insured the delivery.

Pipandmum · 23/06/2019 16:10

If it was tracked they’d have a receipt. But you will only get the value of the ring back.

theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 16:10

OK, but then how do I go about doing something about this with Royal Mail? I didn't post it, the company did, so I don't have the tracking details etc. Should I be getting those details from them? I don't know if the company insured it in the post, and if they did it would not be for much, as I have said, it is not really valuable in money terms. Does anyone have any experience of what Royal Mail will do if they have lost something?

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theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 16:11

So I will not be able to get anything other than the actual monetary value of the ring?

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bridgetreilly · 23/06/2019 16:12

You can't insure things according to their 'sentimental value'. You can insure them for their monetary value. You should claim that from the repair company and it's up to them to claim from Royal Mail. But you can't, and in fact shouldn't, expect more than it's monetary value. If it was too precious to you to lose in the post, you should never have sent it away.

theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 16:12

And I have no way of proving the value anyway...

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DaisyCarrington · 23/06/2019 16:14

No, the repair company will have to deal with Royal Mail. You just write to them and tell them you want to be reimbursed for the value of the ring. If they refuse, threaten them will small claims court.

You have a contract with the repair company which was breached.

The repair company has a contract with RM which was breached.

Claims for breach of contract are normally limited to monetary damages unless you have a psychiatric condition.

Proteinshakesandtears · 23/06/2019 16:15

You may need some specialist advice.

By going to an online company you accept the ring would be posted.

They have put it in the postman tracked as I assume their website says they will.

They should have insured it for the correct amount though.

theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 16:15

I can't prove it had any value at all, really, so I suppose I will have to accept that I wil get nothing. You are right, with hindsight I should not have sent it away. I so wish I had not. But the very specialised nature of the repair needed meant that there were very few places where it could be done, and none near me...and it wasn't lost between me and the compnay but between them and someone else. Even if I had gone all the way to their office and dropped it of presumably they would still have posted it to the other place...

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DaisyCarrington · 23/06/2019 16:16

Get an estimate for having an idential ring hand-made for you if it is not possible to get a replacement from a shop etc and submit that to the repair company.

DaisyCarrington · 23/06/2019 16:17

identical

theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 16:18

They did send it tracked (they have sent me copy of a "claim" they are making against Royal Mail. But they would not have insured it for much. It had practically no monetary value and was even broken. The value was probably the value of a couple of grams of silver. And I have no way to prove anything, even that it was real silver (which it was). I have pictures of it but that doesn't prove anything I suppose.

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DaisyCarrington · 23/06/2019 16:18

You have a photo of it so send that to a silversmith and ask how much it would cost to make one exactly the same.

DaisyCarrington · 23/06/2019 16:19

Silver doesn't cost very much so the replacement value will be the cost getting a craftsman to make one for you.

theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 16:20

Replacement is not possible, it came from somewhere you cannot go to. The idea of having an identical one made is however a nice idea, at leasr it would remind me of how I came by my original ring, even if I don't have it. I do have pictures of it, so could be copied. I will have a think about that, thanks.

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DaisyCarrington · 23/06/2019 16:23

Google "bespoke silver ring"—you'll find lots of options. Good luck! Hope your original one turns up though.

caughtinanet · 23/06/2019 16:24

Have you actually got the tracking number?

It's quite possible maybe even likely it will turn up. I wouldn't worry about the legal contract position, get the number and contact RM on a public form of SM, tell them your story and ask for their help. Only the hardest hearted jobsworth wouldn't help you. I bet you'll get it back

topcat2014 · 23/06/2019 16:24

Like all insurance etc, you will (hopefully) get the monetary value.

The rest is 'consequential loss'.

Doesn't make it better though,

BritInUS1 · 23/06/2019 16:27

Where is it from that you cannot go to?

theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 16:28

OK thank you for all the advice, I do feel a bit better now. I will try the Royal Mail route (which social media would be good?), and also look into bespoke rings.

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