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theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 16:02

I am actually looking for advice, posting here for traffic and because I am not sure what topic this fits into!

The essence of the story is that a company has potentially lost something very precious to me, although it has little monetary value, and I wonder if people have views (including maybe from people who know the legalities better than I do) on what I can do.

The longer version: My engagement ring is not worth much in money terms (silver not gold, no precious stone), but of course, being my engagement ring, it has great sentimental value to me. But also, very importantly, because of where it came from and the circumstances surrounding its purchase, it is completely irreplacable.

It needed some repairs and I found a company online that repairs this very specific type of jewellery. They said they could help, seemed very clued-up and responsive, and so I posted it to them. They emailed me back the next day confirming receipt and even attaching a picture of the ring to show they had it. They were going to get the jeweller to look at it and then give me a quote for repair.

Two weeks went by and I didn't hear from them so I emailed them to ask what was happening. After three days (and repeated emails from me) they emailed teling me that they had posted the ring (Royal Mail tracked) to their repair lab or whatever, but it had been lost in the post. They were trying to find out from Royal Mail what had happened and they hoped to find it, but right now it was lost.

This was incredibly upsetting, obviously. If they do not find it, what are my options? In money value it probably is not even worth more than a hundred pounds, but it is worth much much more to me, of course. I could, I presume, demand that they pay me out the value of the ring, but that does not even start to compensate me for what has been lost.

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TheInvestigator · 23/06/2019 16:31

Jewellery isn't insured in recorded delivery. They need to have posted it special delivery tracked. Make sure that's what they did... however, it doesn't really matter. They need to pay you for the loss; their claim with royal mail is nothing to do with you. They need to pay you for the loss; even if royal mail don't pay them.

theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 16:32

A war zone

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SusieOwl4 · 23/06/2019 16:38

Did they give you the tracking number and have you checked with royal mail that its genuine? Sorry I really feel for you I lost my wedding and engagement ring and a sentimental bracelet in a burglary - and then to top it all off I found out I was not insured . ticked a wrong box ( and I used to work for an insurance company) but I misunderstood the wording . But the money would not have helped anyway .

dammit88 · 23/06/2019 16:39

Im not sure how more money can make a difference to be honest. Sentimental value can't be bought back.

TheInebriati · 23/06/2019 16:41

Start by asking them for the tracking number. You can use that online to check its genuine.

Vibiano · 23/06/2019 16:43

As you have pictures can you not get the company to make a copy?
Or another jeweller?

rollingpine · 23/06/2019 16:48

You only have their word that they posted it - I suspect that they are lying through their teeth.

Even if they send you proof of posting something to this other place, you have no proof that your ring was actually in that particular parcel, do you?

Have you already paid them for the repair?

theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 16:48

Asking them whether they can make a copy or have one made is a good idea. If it is lost then nothing can be done about the actual value to me, I realise that that. But another very similar ring would certainly help...

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theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 16:54

I have not paid them anything at all yet, they were supposed to be sending me a quote for the repair first.

And what would they gain by prentending they have posted it and it has been lost? It's really not worth stealing, it was a broken silver ring with no precious stone and missing marcasites. It would not even have been worth fixing were it not for its sentimental and emotional value to me. They have nothing at all to gain by not getting it back to me. I am obviously not going to give them good reviews etc and they are therefore risking reputational damage for the potential gain of a ring that is worth nothing on the market.

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lemonjumper · 23/06/2019 17:20

There is no point in you trying to engage with Royal Mail, as you are neither the sender nor the recipient of the missing package.

Your claim is with the jewellery company. How much time has passed since they said it was lost and that they were looking into it with Royal Mail?

Whatsername7 · 23/06/2019 17:21

Was is a one off? You might find there are others in circulation for sale. In which case, you can get a price forvthe ring and a replacement. Would it be worth posting a picture on the off chance someone might recognise it?

21daysofsummer · 23/06/2019 17:27

I don’t think for a second that they have actually posted it.

theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 17:33

They told me on Friday that it was lost.

There cannot be others "in circulation", it was made individually and bought in a place which is not accessible. But it could be copied, of course.

I can't imagine any reason why they would tell me that they posted it if they didn't? Unless they have lost it themselves, and are trying to get me to blame Royal Mail? But as others have pointed out, they are the ones who need to reimburse me, not Royal Mail. So why would they lie?

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theDudesmummy · 23/06/2019 17:38

The only value the ring has is in the circumstances in which it was bought. It has very little monetary value and wasn't of particularly high quaility etc (it was pretty, but not particularly well-made when you looked closely). So even if there were other similar ones around, they would not have the same value to me. So, given that if I had a replica made it would be superior (in craftsmanship and materials probably) to the original, I would be better off having one made rather than looking for a similar one, if it is actually lost, I think...

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WillLokireturn · 23/06/2019 17:42

Get a quote from a bespoke company to have it remade/replaced in silver. Then give the jewellery company the quote/price for them to compensate you. Then get your ring remade. It won't be the same but it'll remind you of it.

maddening · 23/06/2019 17:57

I would suggest they have a replica made of the ring. Imo the repair company are liable to you and the royal mail are liable to the repair company.

wheelywheelynice · 23/06/2019 18:05

The person who purchased the postage (jewellery company) is the one who has to claim from Royal Mail, but that is not relevant - what you need to do is read the T & Cs on the company website to see what you agreed to by entering into a contract with them ie. by sending them your ring.

theDudesmummy · 27/06/2019 17:41

Thanks for everyone who contributed. Well they have now offered to make me a new ring, after I told them I would have a new one made and bill them. They wanted details of the purchase, weight etc of the old ring, but when I explained there was absolutely no way to get that, given where and when it was purchased, they accepted that. It is still pretty devastating to have lost it but if I get one that looks similar (and will in honesty probably be of better quality) then I will be satisfied with that...

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