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Need to leave abusive husband

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Momofboys2019 · 23/06/2019 09:08

Hello, I don't really know what I'm looking for, but I'm lost and something has just clicked in me the past week and I have opened my eyes. I have been with my partner nearly 8 years. We married less than 12 months ago. I have two children 10yr old from a previous dv relationship, and a 2 year old from my husband. The husband has always had a short temper and I've always known the name calling and swearing is abuse. Such things as spastic, skett, spacka, thick, useless, ugly, fat, whore, and f this and f that. But I have put it down to just in a heated argument for so long, doesn't mean it. He was violent many years ago, he has has spells with alcohol abuse as well. I got pregnant and he changed for the better..things were great. Then we got married and it's been getting worse with the name calling. He says sorry but then says he has s short temper and knows he doesn't mean it so I shouldn't get upset and should just forgive him. Give it few weeks and he either Denys it ever happening or tells me it was my fault that I pushed him to it. He's fallen out with family and friends and had threatened my family to me. All in heated argument. Then there is the lightbulb moment where I'm finally seeing all the manipulation and gas lighting. Such as the denying it. He calls me names directly to my 2year old and in front of the kids. My eldest who is not his can't breath without being told off and our arguments stem from me defending him. Calls him stupid and a Mongol.. he tells me the kids don't like me that my opinion means nothing and no one cares what I think. A disgraceful, disgusting human being. Worthless and should hang myself. He's been off work with depression and had counciling (or so he tells me) he hid his drinking so I can't believe this. My eldest now doesn't want to be at home and I feel like I've let him down. He's not had it easy with his own dad. Here is my problem, I only had 3 months maternity leave, my husband took the rest of the time off with the little one. I was the breadwinner so went back to work. So he has been involved in everything and has an incredible bond with the little one. But since the little one my eldest has been pushed out. Husband had told me no one will want me and if I meet anyone and he's near his son he will but us both in a hole. (I don't want anyone, but the fear of threat is real) he tells me I'm abusive by being moody all the time. That he responds the way I deserve. He's told me he is taking my youngest and the house if we split up. And he has In argument just walked out the door with my youngest. I don't doubt he would take him. But as he's done just as much from birth as Me I can't say I'm a stay at home mom and child should be with me. I'm terrified of losing my baby. I feel torn between my children. How can I choose between them. I just can't.

The house is social housing and in my name only. But apparently he has a legal right to it as well as we are married. The house was given to me and my eldest. We was homless to receive it. Don't claim any benefits. I work and love my job, I've worked really hard for it. Albeit husband tells me I'm not clever and just landed it. Im also a student with working full time.
Everything in the house I've paid for in terms of items. I don't want to give up my home and my eldest home and I don't want to lose my baby. I have no doubt he will cause problems at work as well..he's called my office when we've had disagreements. He's also very good at pretending to the outside world how devoted to me he is. And he can be incredibly nice and tells me he loves me all the time. I feel like I'm going crazy, I know I need out of this relationship and I know it will not be easy. I've done it before. But my ex was obvious abuse I knew that straight away, this time it's manipulation. Constant accused of cheating etc as well. He's very lazy with the house and if I ask him to clean up his mess or to refold the laundry I've just folded rather than knock it all over I get a gob full. We work same hours and bills are a 50/50 split. I do end up covering extra expenses or when he has no money (even though he can buy alcohol,)

So how do I get round staying in the house and making him leave and keeping my son. I'm scared of social services taking my kids until he's gone but I refuse to give up our home. I left it in my name to protect myself and my eldest after everything we went through before. lesson learned from my ex but doesn't seem it makes much a difference. I have some audio recordings as evidence but I always miss the worse bit. Photos of hidden alcohol and some text MSG's evidence. But none of it shows the true extent of it.
I feel so stuipid for getting married, how could I not see it! How could I fail my eldest again!

Lost, failed mom.

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Singlenotsingle · 23/06/2019 09:15

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jamoncrumpets · 23/06/2019 09:17

What a judgemental and unhelpful comment @Singlenotsingle. OP you need to speak to Women's Aid, who can provide you with judgement free advice. Please call them. Today.

lippy72 · 23/06/2019 09:19

Please op talk to women's aid they will give you support and a plan you cannot stay with this man he is harming you and your children have faith in yourself and your ability to care for your children without this waste of space x

ChocAuVin · 23/06/2019 09:23

I’m so sorry you’re going through this. It’s utterly shocking when you suddenly wake up and realise the true extent of what is happening. Intellectually you know but you rationalise and make excuses and accept the apologies... over and over, until one day you can’t.

This isn’t your fault. Start to make plans. Get advice about the house. I know how overwhelming it all feels, especially with kids and marriage in the mix, but I’m living proof that there is a whole world of happiness and freedom on the other side.

Expect the abuse to ramp up if you leave so make your plans first. You don’t deserve this.

Sending love and strength.

Momofboys2019 · 23/06/2019 09:24

I married him because he had changed, I had my little family and it was bliss. For s short period of time. I've been embarrassed of a failed marriage in less than 12 months and more than anything terrified of losing my baby. I somehow feel guilty for hurting him, when I have said to him I can't carry on. He breaks down and begs for me to let him fix it. I feel guilt. But maybe that is part of it. That I think we'll it's not that bad and I should be grateful my husband after 8 years wants me and tells me he loves me. Like I said I feel like I'm going crazy.

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RandomMess · 23/06/2019 09:27

No you should not be grateful for him ever!!

Please ring WA as the others have said and get their advice specific to your circumstances. Record all the threats towards you or your DC, dates and times as you may need to get a restraining order against him in the future.

You will be so much happier once he is out of your life Thanks

AlwaysCheddar · 23/06/2019 09:29

Good for you for making this decision. Really hard to do but you MUST LEAVE HIM. Stay strong. Get this moved to relationships for advice on women’s aid and shelter etc.

Babdoc · 23/06/2019 09:31

Please don’t call yourself a “failed mom”. You had the strength to leave a previous abusive relationship. You are being a good parent. It is your husband who is the failure, not you.
Contact Women’s Aid, and take their advice. Your husband is making empty threats about taking your child away. He knows it scares you, and he hopes it will make you stay.
See a solicitor about a divorce, and your legal rights to the house. The first appointment is often free.
Draw on your strength and find your anger, OP. You’ve escaped a worse partner before- you can do this again. Best wishes for a happier future. And when you’re safely out, get counselling to stop you choosing abusive men as partners.

1CantPickAName · 23/06/2019 09:38

I live in social housing, housing Association, when my husband and I separated I was told by the ha and local authority that the house stays with the kids. Whoever has the kids has the house. It’s not like in a situation where you both own the home. In my case my dh moved out and because the house was in his name he either had to sign it over to me or I had to make a legal application for the house to be put in my name. In your case as the house is in your name he would have to make a legal application to have the house put in his name, I don’t know how you would get him to move out first though as it is the marital home. Please contact women’s aid and get out if this relationship as soon as possible.

Sargass0 · 23/06/2019 09:41

Google your local IDVA service (Independent Domestic Abuse Advisor) It's correct that as you are married -your husband has as much right to live in the home as you do even though the tenancy is only your name. However - an IDVA can help you apply for an occupation order which if successful can exclude your husband from the home- if you want to stay in the home that is. Or you can contact National Centre for Domestic Violence who can talk you through your options.
www.ncdv.org.uk/

Onescaredmuma · 23/06/2019 09:42

Please contact women's aid they will be able to advise you. You know this is wrong and you need to get out that's good a lot of women let themselves be talked down and believe what is happening is normal and they deserve it. You and both your DCs deserve better

1CantPickAName · 23/06/2019 09:44

Also, mental abuse is domestic abuse. It is taken seriously, especially if you can prove coercive control such as controlling the money or not allowing you to see friends or family or spend time with your kids. Speak to your closest family, I can guarantee that they will be concerned about you already.

RandomMess · 23/06/2019 09:44

You will get shared care of your youngest therefore 1.5 DC live with you so the house should stay with you and them. Ensure the Child Benefit is in your name Thanks

HopefullyAnonymous · 23/06/2019 09:46

Honestly, if it came to losing the house or having to stay in the marriage for the next 5/10/25 years....

Your kids would rather have a happy mum.

PurpleWithRed · 23/06/2019 09:51

He is also abusing your older child, which is an issue that’s eventually going to be brought to the attention of social services. This may be helpful in getting him out of the house, given the house will stay with the children and your older child will stay with you. But speak to women’s aid, idva, citizens advice, everyone who can help asap. Also if he kicks off consider calling the police, and start keeping a diary of his drinking and abuse.

Singlenotsingle · 23/06/2019 09:55

Not judgmental at all, jamoncrumpets. I know how difficult it is to make the decision to end a relationship and I sympathize entirely with the OP's situation.

Neverender · 23/06/2019 10:01

You are being abused and your children are seeing and hearing things that will cause damage. I know because my abusive DH finally left last Friday. He only went because the police made him and confiscated his keys.

See my other thread...call women's aid.

Neverender · 23/06/2019 10:03

I feel a bit guilty for being happier as H has lost everything, but recognise that this is part of the abuse. You feel sorry for them so you put up with their shit. Mine was depressed and drinking all his money - they're pathetic!

oneforthepain · 23/06/2019 10:34

This guy familiar? m.youtube.com/watch?v=d5NHBn5p9vY

Call Women's Aid: 0808 2000 247

His threats about the children are part of the abuse. It's a very common tactic.

Coercive control is a crime, and that's what he's been doing to you. You could report him to the police.

Make all your plans, sort out everything you need to, then act. Don't warn him what you're doing - if you tell him in advance at best he'll ramp up all the manipulation and emotional pressure, at worst he could become physically violent.

Once you've sorted all the practical stuff, please get yourself on the Freedom Programme. It's info, not therapy. It's confidential, nobody will judge you, and you don't have to share anything about yourself - you can just listen.

But it will help you so much to understand the full extent of what he's done to you, how abnormal it is, how it's affected you and the children, how you'll all heal and how to support the children, how he'll react after the relationship ends, and how you can protect yourself in the future.

Perhaps most importantly it teaches you what healthy relationships look like and early warning signs of abuse (all abusers behave differently, so comparing one abusive man to a new man is not a reliable way to tell) so that you'll never end up in a situation like this again and can live a happier life.

Www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

Momofboys2019 · 23/06/2019 10:39

I have wondered if on his next outburst if the police will remove him and stop him coming back in. My logic is I have a child full time plus another one that would be shared. So with both children the house should stay mine. Or it would be putting me and my eldest homless. Where all 3 of us would have a home if the house stayed with me. Plus he could go to family if needed, I have no where to go at all. I have had the police out before (family called them) but I covered for him. Everything they asked as routine I lied about. The police removed him for the night. Then I had phone calls off his family with how wrong I was that he was removed out the house. That I knew what he was like and married him and he's dealing with a lot.as well. I've had this morning that if I'm moody (ive not been moody just very quiet) then things can't move forward and he wants us to be happy and I should know picking a fight with him doesn't end well and I should stop dwelling. I don't think I do pick fights, maybe this is why I've stayed as I believed I was at fault too for the names etc. My miscommunication and he lashes out so I'm to blame too. I spoke to my mom and closest friend yesterday. He doesn't like my mom anyway and family events with my family has always been an issue. He's said things like hopes my fat mom gets cancer Again and dies. Or IL die a said lonely bitter woman like my mom. I have completely let down my eldest, he's done such s good job of convincing me that he's back chatted or been rude and so got told off. My son is none of those things. I will break free for us, admitting it to family was a big move now I know I have no going back. Thank you for the advice. I will speak to women's aid and my housing officer and then most likely the police.

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MissPollyHadADolly19 · 23/06/2019 10:49

Don't feel trapped in this situation because there are always ways out.
When he kicks off, ring the police and ask for him to be removed, if he comes back then ring the police again - repeat as necessary.
Social services will automatically get involved after the 3rd report as the DC will be classed as a child in need, a CAF form will probably be submitted. I know it does sound daunting but it really is for the best as with SS on your side you can use it to your advantage.
Don't give in to his threats, they are only threats and will most likely never amount to anything.
Take some time off work if you have any paid holiday hours avaliable or get a sick note, you will need the downtime to recover from this and will want to be there for your eldest DC as much as possible.
You have not failed anyone but you have to take control now. Flowers

Theworldcouldbemymollusc · 23/06/2019 10:55

In my experience it is quite hard to get through to women’s aid but most areas have a local advice line. Download the ‘bright sky’ app - it looks like a weather app but is for help and advice with domestic abuse. Good luck op you know you have to leave this abusive bully - if not for you then for your children

Whosorrynow · 23/06/2019 11:06

@Momofboys2019 it's not your fault, the techniques used by abusers and predators are hard to spot if you don't know what to look for, they brainwash you and control you and it can take some time to wake up and see what's happening.
There is a way out and there were people on here with experience of these kinds of things who can help you

Momofboys2019 · 23/06/2019 11:10

Thank you, I think I will talk to my employer. It's a new job, my dream job that I've worked very hard for. I know that will be a target. All bills etc are in my name and my bank. He gives me half the bills and then it goes out my bank. I will be ok financially without him although my credit rating is a mess, month to month I can support me and my children. I know why I chose abusive partners and this comes from my childhood which I thought I dealt with years ago but it's obviously left something to my taste in men. But as my husband points out im a victim or have victim syndrome and apparently so does my eldest. So because of this we are not really victims, we just think we are.
Also part of me thinks he doesn't know he is abusive so it can't really be that bad can it. Or if he doesn't remember it then it did t happen ?

I think I've been completely brainwashed and been to stuipid to see it, and actually sick to my stomach I've left down my eldest and how much longer until my youngest picks up on all this.

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Whosorrynow · 23/06/2019 11:43

he doesn't know he's abusive
What's really going on here though?
I would say that what's really going is he thinks it is fine normal and right to treat you as an inferior person, to always put himself ahead of you, to dominate and control you. He instinctively feels that as a man he has the right to dominate and control you
you and I call that abuse but to him it's just the way that things should be.
He thinks that treating you badly is the right fair and normal thing to do.
His worldview is toxic.