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Need to leave abusive husband

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Momofboys2019 · 23/06/2019 09:08

Hello, I don't really know what I'm looking for, but I'm lost and something has just clicked in me the past week and I have opened my eyes. I have been with my partner nearly 8 years. We married less than 12 months ago. I have two children 10yr old from a previous dv relationship, and a 2 year old from my husband. The husband has always had a short temper and I've always known the name calling and swearing is abuse. Such things as spastic, skett, spacka, thick, useless, ugly, fat, whore, and f this and f that. But I have put it down to just in a heated argument for so long, doesn't mean it. He was violent many years ago, he has has spells with alcohol abuse as well. I got pregnant and he changed for the better..things were great. Then we got married and it's been getting worse with the name calling. He says sorry but then says he has s short temper and knows he doesn't mean it so I shouldn't get upset and should just forgive him. Give it few weeks and he either Denys it ever happening or tells me it was my fault that I pushed him to it. He's fallen out with family and friends and had threatened my family to me. All in heated argument. Then there is the lightbulb moment where I'm finally seeing all the manipulation and gas lighting. Such as the denying it. He calls me names directly to my 2year old and in front of the kids. My eldest who is not his can't breath without being told off and our arguments stem from me defending him. Calls him stupid and a Mongol.. he tells me the kids don't like me that my opinion means nothing and no one cares what I think. A disgraceful, disgusting human being. Worthless and should hang myself. He's been off work with depression and had counciling (or so he tells me) he hid his drinking so I can't believe this. My eldest now doesn't want to be at home and I feel like I've let him down. He's not had it easy with his own dad. Here is my problem, I only had 3 months maternity leave, my husband took the rest of the time off with the little one. I was the breadwinner so went back to work. So he has been involved in everything and has an incredible bond with the little one. But since the little one my eldest has been pushed out. Husband had told me no one will want me and if I meet anyone and he's near his son he will but us both in a hole. (I don't want anyone, but the fear of threat is real) he tells me I'm abusive by being moody all the time. That he responds the way I deserve. He's told me he is taking my youngest and the house if we split up. And he has In argument just walked out the door with my youngest. I don't doubt he would take him. But as he's done just as much from birth as Me I can't say I'm a stay at home mom and child should be with me. I'm terrified of losing my baby. I feel torn between my children. How can I choose between them. I just can't.

The house is social housing and in my name only. But apparently he has a legal right to it as well as we are married. The house was given to me and my eldest. We was homless to receive it. Don't claim any benefits. I work and love my job, I've worked really hard for it. Albeit husband tells me I'm not clever and just landed it. Im also a student with working full time.
Everything in the house I've paid for in terms of items. I don't want to give up my home and my eldest home and I don't want to lose my baby. I have no doubt he will cause problems at work as well..he's called my office when we've had disagreements. He's also very good at pretending to the outside world how devoted to me he is. And he can be incredibly nice and tells me he loves me all the time. I feel like I'm going crazy, I know I need out of this relationship and I know it will not be easy. I've done it before. But my ex was obvious abuse I knew that straight away, this time it's manipulation. Constant accused of cheating etc as well. He's very lazy with the house and if I ask him to clean up his mess or to refold the laundry I've just folded rather than knock it all over I get a gob full. We work same hours and bills are a 50/50 split. I do end up covering extra expenses or when he has no money (even though he can buy alcohol,)

So how do I get round staying in the house and making him leave and keeping my son. I'm scared of social services taking my kids until he's gone but I refuse to give up our home. I left it in my name to protect myself and my eldest after everything we went through before. lesson learned from my ex but doesn't seem it makes much a difference. I have some audio recordings as evidence but I always miss the worse bit. Photos of hidden alcohol and some text MSG's evidence. But none of it shows the true extent of it.
I feel so stuipid for getting married, how could I not see it! How could I fail my eldest again!

Lost, failed mom.

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Whosorrynow · 23/06/2019 11:45

He doesn't remember things that put him in a bad light because that's what suits his agenda
he may well not consciously remember but our unconscious minds steer us all the time and his unconscious mind works hard to protect his ego and tell him that he is important and always in the right

Whosorrynow · 23/06/2019 11:46

And yes he will try and attack your job because your job represents your success in life your autonomy and independence from him
he will attack anything which stands in his way, anything which undermines his dominance and his control he will try and get rid of it or undermine it

Whosorrynow · 23/06/2019 11:48

All this victim syndrome stuff is just gobshite word salad to confuse you and make him feel like some kind of expert, let it wash over you

Momofboys2019 · 23/06/2019 11:58

I received my first higher level education certificate the other week. At first he was extremely proud, then later it was more a I'm not bright just because I have a piece of paper and it proves nothing. He's not really allowed me to study but I have done it none the less. When I landed me job it went from huge praise to IL fail in 3 months I'm to thick to do it etc. He tells the world how proud he is of me, puts soppy posts on social media etc. Reality is very different.
I'm told I'm a bad mom, I think it hit me when in the middle of the night he made up a song regarding the way I look to our 2 year old. But I had been taking care of myself again gym etc.

He said I know he has a vile mouth and if pushed he will always win. I can see now this was deniel of accountability for his own actions and blaming me for him doing it whilst normalising it all at the same time.
He definitely has ego problems, that one is obvious even to those who don't know him.

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Whosorrynow · 23/06/2019 12:04

Leave while you still can

Mommmytobe19 · 23/06/2019 12:39

Get the police called and ask him to remove him from your house. They won’t take your son away from you and you shouldn’t have to chose between your children - what kind of man who claims to love you would want to make that decision? I’d wait till he’s gone to work pack a bag for him and leave it outside the house or drop it at his mothers and get them locks changed. Tel him you want a divorce it’s highly unlikely a man who can even pay 50/50 bills due to him prioritising alcohol will be granted full custody of a baby. May be a long fight ahead of you but he has conditioned you to make you feel worthless to keep him ‘above’ you but in reality he is so far beneath you. Get him blocked on everything tell your employers if he rings or turns up to threaten to have his removed by the police. Hope you’re okay xx

krankykittykat · 23/06/2019 12:58

Yabvu to stay with somebody who abuses your son.

Momofboys2019 · 23/06/2019 13:03

Because he's threatened to take my other son who is 2. I honestly believed it wasn't abuse that my eldest was being naughty. I'm completely ashamed to the point I feel sick about this. I've told family and friends and I'm taking the next steps to get us away from it. My eldest has been staying at his nans away from it for this reason.

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Mimmi78 · 23/06/2019 13:09

OP there is really good resource your employer can use to support you when you talk. It's called the "domestic violence toolkit for employers". It was developed by The Insurance Charities and government to provide support to women and men who require a range of support in these situations from legal support, counselling and general safeguarding including in the workplace. Please use this when you talk to your employers. ThanksI'm so sorry you are in this position but you have made a brave decision to address it.

Momofboys2019 · 23/06/2019 13:11

Just to clarify I defend my son every time regardless of the stuff I get. I just thought our tolerance levels on what we consider naughty was different.. the husband also tells me my son doesn't like me and thinks I'm moody and horrible. My son never told me how he felt. I've been very stuipid and blind.

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Missingstreetlife · 23/06/2019 13:26

Just get him out. Don't listen to his crap. Tell health visitor, this may help if you need evidence later. Get legal advice free if domestic violence. Don't put up with this, don't choose him, choose your kids and a happy life. Keep away from men and get help. Good luck

Whosorrynow · 23/06/2019 13:35

Now you are seeing the true picture, you are not stupid, you understand what's going on

dottiedodah · 23/06/2019 13:43

Firstly you are NOT a failed Mum! .Not at all ,you have tried to make your marriage work ,but your husband is abusive to you and your DC.Firstly call the DV helpline they should be able to help .If you can make an appt at your GPs, they should be able to put you in touch directly if you have problems getting through.The first steps are the worst, recognising that you are dealing with past problems and this is impacting on your choice of partners .Stay strong, you can get out and be stronger for it .You are not a victim .You are a clever girl with a good job and DC !

Momofboys2019 · 23/06/2019 13:44

When the health visitor notes how much of a rare and strong bond the baby has With dad it's hard to then convince them otherwise. I have not chosen him, I am choosing my kids but if he walks out the door with my youngest I've lost him. And he will as I've stated he shared my maternity leave. I had to go back to work due to finances. He's done everything With my youngest 50/50, doctors and health vistors think he's a great dad so if he takes him it could be months before I get him back. My eldest is not his. So how do I chose between my children. Do I go tell him now it's over get all the abuse and watch him walk out the door with my baby? Or do I let my eldest carry on feeling this way and not want to be at home. I can't just throw him out, he's not like my ex that didn't care about my eldest. Husband is obsessed With my youngest, he will take him. I've been stuipid for 8 years. I'm now going to have to play it smart for a few weeks and get it sorted. I don't want a man, or need one, hence why I am independent and keep everything in my name. But it didn't work as far as the house goes. I want my space, my boys, my home and my career and education, I've worked hard for. That's it!

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Magdalene11 · 23/06/2019 13:47

Hi Momoofboys, this is the first step to believing you are worth more. He knows he is abusing you and your son and you have a choice. You have a good job a home and two children and now you are starting to love yourself. If you were 10 years in the future looking back what advise would you give to yourself now?

I don't know if you are aware but psychological abuse is illegal; perhaps you could talk to the police I am very sure they will provide you with information on this.

All the very best update us on when you have moved on.

Whosorrynow · 23/06/2019 13:55

I'm not suggesting that you should test him or call his bluff but do you think he will really walk out with the baby do you think he will really want the burden of a child to care for on his own

He's been very manipulative with the children, using them to gaslights you and manipulating you with the implied threat that he will take the youngest one hostage.
You can play it smart here, for the time being just humour him and don't tip him off but start keeping a detailed log of everything he does

imnotcheryl · 23/06/2019 14:04

Don't tell him you want him to leave. Obviously you can't have him walking out with the baby. Call the police and have him removed. Or, call Women's Aid. If it were me I'd also consider presenting to a women's shelter. Being safe with the kids is more important than the house.

Hithere12 · 23/06/2019 14:04

My eldest who is not his can't breath without being told off and our arguments stem from me defending him. Calls him stupid and a Mongol

Sorry but if you let your son grow up in this horrible environment then you complicit. If my parent had of stayed with someone who treated me like this I’d forever go NC. Can he stay with grandparents or live with someone else?!

imnotcheryl · 23/06/2019 14:05

Download the app The Keep. It looks like a reminder app but it's actually for keeping a log of behaviour secret and storing evidence.

GreatOne · 23/06/2019 14:23

This us what I did...
I went to my local police desk and told them I needed to talk to some about DV, that I needed help to remove him from the house. He was removed that evening.

They were amazingly helpful.
I only had bits of 'evidence' on my phone too.

You won't lose your kids or your home.
Good luck

MushroomTree · 23/06/2019 15:07

OP please also consider yourself and your children moving to a women's refuge.

I understand not wanting to leave your home but you really do need to consider your safety.

Where are you based? If it's Hampshire please call Stop Domestic Abuse on 0330 016 5112.

They'll run through an assessment with you and be able to offer advice on how to proceed. From the basics you've written here that will probably be a suggestion of moving into refuge.

I know that seems terrifying but in the long run your safety and freedom will make it worth it. Good luck Flowers

RandomMess · 23/06/2019 18:02

Even if your H gets more than 50% care your son is entitled to a relationship and contact with you and his older brother. If he fights this it will look bad on him in court and work in your favour. You need to accept that it may take time to get things in place etc. But in the long run separating is i the best interests of both your sons otherwise they will see domestic abuse as normal and perpetuate the behaviour.

Momofboys2019 · 23/06/2019 18:16

I have already taken steps since my original post this morning. Thank you everyone. Sometimes hearing you are not crazy from those on the outside helps. I'm sure I'm in for a tough ride. But no going back now. I have spoken to my eldest. It broke my heart but I have the strength now. He just didn't want to hurt his mum, so much weight on little shoulders.

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Whosorrynow · 23/06/2019 18:31

Sometimes hearing you are not crazy from those on the outside helps
totally!
Power to you OP!

NaviSprite · 23/06/2019 20:07

I can only repeat advice to contact women’s aid, when my mum was in a similar situation when she had my half brother and sister.

To back herself up with Social Services, Police etc. she hid a dictaphone in the rooms where arguments/threats/abuse were most likely to happen. This can be risky as the other person can find them if they have a habit of going through your things, but if you have the facility to do something similar (without putting yourself or DC at risk) it might help? But I’d suggest you speak to women’s aid first and get their advice as they’re much more capable than I am.

Like your husband- my mums partner at the time was very good at putting on a show for the outside world. Thankfully SS and the Council saw/heard the evidence my mum had and she kept the house and my brother and sister. The council also moved her (at her request) quite quickly. This was about 10 years ago now but don’t lose hope that you can get through this OP.

I wish you the best of luck and happiness for your future Flowers

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