to think if my ndn were having a row my reaction would not be to record it

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is it even legal?

How could it be illegal?

If my neighbour were Boris Johnson and I could get it into the papers the first thing I’d do is record it

If it happened a lot and was a noise issue you might be encouraged to.

It depends on the situation.

Small disagreement one afternoon when the windows and doors are open, not at all.

Blazing rows on a regular basis then there might be a case for it.

Having briefly lived next to neighbours who would row every other week, door slamming, plate smashing I could probably have hit a point of recording it if I was thinking of raising concerns to the police (which I may well have done if it was more frequent). Their rows would start at 9/10pm but on occasions we were woken up by the yelling in the small hours of the morning.

I would record an argument if it was getting really really aggressive, things were being thrown about and one of the people involved was not leaving when repeatedly asked to do so. You can tell when someone is scared - if so I would call the police and record it in case it was ever needed as part of a statement.

If my neighbour was the next freaking prime minister of great Britain I damned well would. Because I seriously hope that the future prime minister should be able to have a row without smashing things.

Maybe it's happened before, maybe the neighbour thought the ploce wpuld t attend, maybe they were worried about one of them (Carrie /Boris) and they wanted to show them how it sounded to others.

Maybe they wanted to make some money, maybe they're a remainer, a labour supporter or one of the many groups that Bojo has slagged off.

Who knows? The reason for recording doesn't really make any difference to the content, does it?

Why would it not be legal? If this was a common occurrence and someone came on here to ask for advice then I guarantee many posters would suggest recording the commotion. It is hard to evidence domestic abuse and arguments so it could be useful for when the police turned up.

I wouldn't give it to the media and I would most definitely not be talking to the papers.

There's a woman in this situation who might prefer not to air her dirty laundry and save some dignity.

As for Boris, fuck him. But it wasn't just him.

If I thought a woman was at risk of dv and I had already called the police yes I would because I would hope the evidence would help convict the bastard who did it

Ooh, I didn't know it had been recorded!

I think it would only be illegal if you’re hiding in their laundry bin while you’re doing it. If it’s a noise loud enough to hear from your own or public land, then you can crack on.

If I was a future PM I’d probably try to avoid getting into lairy drunken arguments for that reason.

www.dma-law.co.uk/is-it-illegal-to-record-conversations/
'Things change if the matter is addressed with a claim for damages or if the recordings have been shared without the consent of the participants. Even worse, if the recording is sold to third parties or released in public without the consent of the participants then this could be considered a criminal offence.'

It may not be illegal to record but it may be inadmissible in a court of law.
With technology and various methods available, it and anything can be altered.

It SHOULD be legal imho.
FFS, you don't own the sound waves you generate. People should be able to record what they hear in their homes, on their property or in the street.

Ditto with image.

Highly sensitive artificial devices such as microphones or long-distance lenses can have other rules, but not ordinary level noise (or seen with naked eye views). These should be fair game to record.

I might if I feared for someone's safety - it might be needed as evidence

I might if I feared for someone's safety - it might be needed as evidence id phone the police if i feared for someones safety.

I thought they did phone the police too. People might do both conceivably

You can’t usually use covertly obtained recordings in a court of law but your link doesn’t show anything else OP.

In any case it's hardly the ndn fault is it I feel sorry for them being kept awake by it. They must have been really worried to have got up and knocked etc

Why are you asking about something you would NOT do???

id phone the police if i feared for someones safety.

They did call the police. I read it as they called the police and then recorded the argument as they await their arrival.

Agree. They probably got paid for that recording too (although, given it was The Guardian, probably not very much).

I might if they argued regularly and wanted to show them/others e.g. landlord the level of disruption they were causing or if I was worried about either party and wanted to get advice. I can't see how it would be illegal unless I did something illegal (e.g. putting recording equipment in their property) to get the recording.

If someone is at the point to record a neighbours argument then I would mark said neighbours as a massive pain in the arse ajnd deserving of everything they get.

If I were concerned that someone was going to be hurt or that they might later want a recording as evidence, then I would call the police and record it.