Man-handling climate change protestors

[Leafyhouse]

Anyone else watch with horror as a climate change protestor was forcefully removed by Mark Field from the Mansion House speech? I mean, I'm no fan of political activism, 'direct action' and so on, but she wasn't presenting him with any direct threat, just shouting and being annoying. AIBU to think that his behaviour was totally unacceptable there?

Exactly - he left both her hands bloody free to pull out any weapon she might have had and he did not look threatened by that.

He saw a woman who needed taking down a few pegs and was more than happy to oblige.

Don’t think “trespasser” quite cuts it.

Because trespasser.

It's not in any way his place to remove her for trespassing though is it?

Because trespasser.

When did Mark Field purchase the Mansion House?

Don’t think “trespasser” quite cuts it.

That's all we need! All of the other stuff is superfluous.

Incidentally, I've never spent so long engaged with one thread. It's quite hypnotic how it cycles round and round the same points

Yes if he really did think she was armed why not grab her hands, he's making excuses for his arrogant violent male behaviour by saying he thought she was armed

It's not in any way his place to remove her for trespassing though is it?

He'd claim to be acting on implied authority of the person in possession.

IcedPurple

Right. So if I take a dislike to you and 'fear' you may be a threat to me, I'd be quite right to assault you? Because you never know eh?

Awhile back their was a thread on here about a woman's DH/P who went running on a canal path. He was sprayed with anti attacker dye, basically for the reasons that you have stated yet most of the thread actually agreed with you and some went further and stated that he had probably done something wrong.

He'd claim to be acting on implied authority of the person in possession.

Are you his lawyer? If so, have we dropped the "Your honour I was terrified she was carrying a shotgun in her handbag" line?

Awhile back their was a thread on here about a woman's DH/P who went running on a canal path. He was sprayed with anti attacker dye, basically for the reasons that you have stated yet most of the thread actually agreed with you and some went further and stated that he had probably done something wrong.

Agreed with me on what? I've never read that thread so how can anyone 'agree' with me?

google Airey Neave. Google Brighton Bomb. Or Stephen Timms. Maybe you are too young to remember how nasty shit gets when people use undemocratic means to attack MPs.

I remember all of them (I was in Brighton on the night of the bombing and about 400 yards along the seafront when it happened).

Non-violent climate change activists cannot be compared with jihadists and paramilitary nationalists.

"The woman posed no threat. You know it, I know it and he knew it."
How do we all know this? Without hindsight.
Is it because she was a naice middle class white woman who wouldn't harm a fly.

By the way, this is quite helpful - was posted earlier.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48717002

How do we all know this? Without hindsight.

Oh FFS what's the point? You've obviously got an agenda here and aren't even bothering to read replies to your own posts. I gave several reasons above why this woman was exceedingly unlikely to be armed. Yet here you are again with the same inane questions that have been dealt with many times already.

a naice middle class white woman

What?

So there was no way of knowing that she wasn't about to pull a pistol?

However, you could know her social class, there and then?

Like I say, your agenda is showing.

I really dont think implied authority can work can it? So I can assult a man in public if I fear he may do something to someone when I'm at work? I would have the implied authority apparently. Dont think that will work will it?

Hi Smile, no that wouldn't work.

What if she had been armed with a knife or something. Security services would have treated her little better

What if she'd had snakes for hair like Medusa.

I see that connective thinking has gone out of the window for some posters.

Not that bad?! Wtf kind of lives have you led if you think that's remotely acceptable?

And I speak as the child of a violent alcoholic father!

Mark Field seemed WAY too comfortable, confident and PRACTICED in his actions!

I dread to think how he treats women behind closed doors if this is how he behaves when witnessed!

"Don't understand some of these responses. She was walking past - all he had to do was stand up, block her path and call over security." Exactly! I have several family and friends who are police officers, security workers and they would not have gone straight to physically handling her!

He had absolutely no reason to believe she might be armed that's bullshit! Do people really think that at such a gathering those entering wouldn't have been subjected to searches and bag checks?! I don't for a second believe there was no security presence, they didn't do their job properly it could be argued but no way there was no security whatsoever.

Even IF she had the potential to be violent herself his actions could easily have made that MORE likely not less, he escalated what was happening, he didn't calm the situation.

And as DonkeyHotay says even IF you disagree with the woman's actions, overreacting and behaving appallingly as Field did plays right into the hands of those he/they oppose - total own goal!

"protestors are only ever removed from places by being physically dragged away" rubbish! I've been on many protests when younger and I NEVER had to be physically removed not once.

"YABU. She wasn't injured" how do you know? You ever been grabbed by the neck? I have it bloody hurts!

"So I'm guessing if your daughters were man handled in such a way she'd have deserved it right?

Hang your fucking heads in shame" hear hear!

Pedalleur exactly - not one hand laid on that guy! Despite his being surrounded by FOUR other men!

"Sorry but..." Is NOT an apology it's an excuse!

Shocked and disappointed at some of the mners desperately trying to justify this disgusting behaviour of his.

What if she'd had snakes for hair like Medusa.

@PinkieTuscadero

What if she had been armed with a knife or something.

A knife that slipped through the metal detectors? That fit in her tiny handbag? That she still would have been able to reach since her obviously untrained wannabe bouncer was kind enough to leave both her hands free?

If he thought she had been armed he would have restrained her hands and called/looked around for backup. He didn't do any of these things. He didn't think she was armed.

She was wearing a skin tight dress and carrying leaflets and a mobile phone. She clearly wasn't concealing anything. She was walking calmly and if you watch the full footage it is clear that Field had clocked her and was gunning for her.

He went straight for her neck at the front. Domestic violence workers will tell you that's a major red flag. When DV victims are subjected to grabs around the neck they are far more likely to be killed by their partners. My point is, this doesn't appear to be the action of someone afraid about a weapon, or someone who was just trying to remove a protester. This appears to be a calculated action by a dangerous thug and I hope the full force of the law comes down on him.

This woman is no innocent, search her name and you can see she has been at several protests....
What exactly do you thing she was marching round the tables to do....

Last time I looked, protesting peacefully was not a crime in this country, but assaulting people was.

Of course, the country may have turned into a totalitarian dictatorship while I was busy cutting the grass earlier, but if it hasn't, she is innocent of any crime in this respect.