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Dads contact and his new girlfriend

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Charlie09 · 17/06/2019 11:57

Hi
Basically... my ex has recently introduced his new girlfriend to our children. Admittedly this has been very hard for me and it’s nlt been nice at all. Moreso as his gf has called me ‘fat’ and ugly in the past and generally not been nice. So my feelings towards her are not positive in any way. Also my ex is emotionally abusive and even up until weeks ago still tries it on with me.
When they first met her they went bowling (fine). But she hugged them goodbye (not fine as they don’t know her).
Second time they went to the cinema (fine) but the kids thought it was going to be just them and their dad. He only sees them wednesdays for two hours and every other weekend (sat 10am until Sunday whenever he likes it seems). So that time in between he sees his gf and her kids (and I think he might be living with them or certainly stays every night except for when he has our kids one night). I’ve offered for him to see the kids more but he’s ignored that and tells everyone how much he misses them but then never wants to see them more?! He’d rather just obsess over his gf.

On to the point!... it was obviously Father’s Day yesterday and my weekend. It got until Thursday and no offer of seeing them so I messaged his sister (as I’ve stopped all direct contact due to his games and coming in my house looking through my things etc) and asked if he wanted to see them. He had replied yes. I had said I’d hope he’d respect the kids would want to spend time with just him/ family.
So he picks them up (acts all nice and spoke to me for the first time in a few weeks since I’ve refysed to have sex with him) and said he’d drop them back at 6pm.

Gets to 6.30pm.., kids not home. Try to call my child and nothing. Finally my child calls and says they’re on their way home from Kate’s (his gfs!) where they had been all afternoon for a roast. I was fuming.
They get home gone 7pm.
He hasn’t respected mine or the kids wishes and trying to play happy families with her. The kids have now seen her every time he’s had them since he introduced them which he promised me and the kids wouldn’t be the case. When we were amicable he said he agreed he needs 1-1 time with them as he rarely gets to. Now he doesn’t leave her side or want to do anything without her. It’s unhealthy and their rs is unhealthy and the kids are really affected by seeing her. My eldest sleeps in my bed and my youngest asks for days after when her mum and dad are getting back together. I tell her we won’t and he’s with someone else now but I don’t think she understands why he acts like he does with her and not me and not want to be home with us. It’s horribke for them and that he doesn’t respect their feelings. He doesn’t even give them a choice as to whether to see her or not.

He’s also now doing no contact with me but to the extent that he won’t communicatd about the kids. About money he owes, birthdays etc which are sent via our tp. He’s acting like a child and refuses to coparent. All he thinks about is himself and his horrible selfish gf.
The only response I’ve had since no contact was one his gf clearly sent, so he can’t even write his own messages anymore.
Also she draws up schedules for the holidays, despite me drafting one she does her own and gets him to pass it back. It’s like a control thing. She’s trying to control everything and he’s totally under her spell. I just want him to be a proper dad to his kids and put them first and not her and not be so weak and pathetic to do everything she says or thinks. Neither of them respect anyone else.

I wish I could make it so they didn’t have contact with her but I know I couldn’t.. so what else can I do? I feel powerless! They do whatever they want even when it’s against my parenting morals.

If they keep bringing the kids back late can I do something about that? I wouldn’t ever want them to not have contact with their dad as if anything I wish he wanted more contact with them. It’s just heartbreaking he’s turned out like this and it’s making me depressed and low and not able to move on

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Starlight456 · 17/06/2019 14:08

Then you know you need to change the locks again and not give him the key for any reason .

If you are getting more than the cms minimum then take that but asking for money he won’t give you is pointless. He will enjoy the power of that.

Yes as pp said . He is not your friend . Treat it like a business meeting . Unless it relates to the children don’t discuss it.

If his sister won’t get involved then don’t contact anyone . He can contact you for contact.

Do not let him know he has bothered you , he is far more likely to repeat the behaviour if he knows it bothers you

And yes do the freedom program it will help you understand what he is doing better

PeskyPurdy · 17/06/2019 14:11

I do feel for you OP as I can sense your pain over the break up.

But I'm afraid if my DP's ex tried to dictate to him re me being present with their children.....I would tell her where to go. If that makes sense?

He's moved on, and the games he's playing now are because he's not in control of you like he was.

Stay strong, change your locks!

You may not like the new woman, but appreciate the fact that she wants to spend time with your children, don't you want them to have fun when they're not with you?

Princessfaffalot · 17/06/2019 14:12

Your bitterness and hanging on to every little put down or thing he’s said to you in the past, obsessing about his new relationship and telling tales to his sister (I mean really, what was the point in that?) will damage your children.

I know it’s hard, I know you’re hurting and emotional but for your sanity’s sake and your kids sake you need to let go and move on.

Jellybeansincognito · 17/06/2019 14:14

I’d go as far as speaking to the police too about his behaviour as that’s concerning- I’m assuming the photos are of a naked nature?

He is harassing you.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 17/06/2019 14:16

He is not committing an offence if he has pictures taken with permission.

purpleboy · 17/06/2019 14:18

Op I have been in a very similar situation for 13 years.
DD was 3 when exh and I split. He has had a string of new Gf within that time and has always put them first. He has had dd probably 3 times on his own without one of the gf's or hers kids being there. It has ended up with her going no contact after he refused to see her alone on her 16th bday. He has always put other people's needs before hers and she has seen him for what he is, a spineless twat.
So I understand you wanting him to spend 1:1 time however I highly doubt this will happen. It's not right but it's his decision. For as long as the kids are happy then there isn't much you can do about it.

You can't change him, but you can change the way you deal with this situation.

Charlie09 · 17/06/2019 14:25

Princessfaffot.. I told his sister as he sent a message via her asking me to nlt contact him or his gf by any means. It came out of weeks of no contact so made no sense. It was to make him appear like he was the victim. That’s why I responded with screenshots of the calls and coming into the house etc. To show it wasn’t me like he was making out. She put ‘I don’t know what to say about that’ after seeing all the evidence. I have never done that before and wouldn’t have had he not done wha he had. I think maybe if you understand my position more and having panic attacks, anxiety, feeling low and feeling controlled etc you might be more understanding. There so much more I haven’t said (like waking up to him on the end of my bed at 2am after his gfs had kicked him out after a fight). So when you sit back and take it for so long with him telling everyone lies to make him loom good I think me telling his sister was nothing and far from petty!!

Yes the pictures are from when we together. When we split he sent them to me as if to say ‘I’ve still got them and power over you’. I’ve been told I can’t do anything about him having them, so long as he doesn’t share them etc.

Also obsessing about the past? This is the present!! It’s onoing! The last hurl of abuse wasn’t so long ago! It was weeks!!!

Like I said, I’ll try grey rock and calming down and not letting my emotions take over. I’ll let him get on with whatever he wants with his new gf (like I have!). I merely wanted more respect and empathy but I guess I’m still the person he enjoys blaming and wearing down. Hopefully he’ll get bored with me and she’ll be his new target. It’s draining being blamed for nothing and everything! I’m glad I don’t have to hear it daily anymore

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alligatorsmile · 17/06/2019 14:31

Oh I love it when these useless sperm donors announce that they can't contribute this month because they're skint. Because everyone knows that food is free and paying the mortgage is optional and the lovely energy companies will let you off because you're a bit short.

OP you're clearly hurting so much, I do feel for you.

Charlie09 · 17/06/2019 14:37

Thank you alligatorsmile .. it has been the hardest thing I’ve ever been through and I’m trying to u derstand the cycle and the abuse and trauma bonding etc. I’m better than I was last year... way better.
That’s my point!! I’ve paid our huge mortgage which he still expects half of as we weren’t married but are joint owners and I pay all the bills including clubs for the kids so we BOTH can work and when I asked for half I was met with ‘I’m skint’. Well I am too but if I don’t pay the clubs I can’t work and then I can’t lay the mortgage and the kids don’t have a home. He could afford pizza and bowling though with his gf and the kids. I can’t afford that as bills are a priority! Maybe he should have taken them to the park and made them a picnic? But I’m sure he spent the same amount I wAs asking for!

It’s so infuriating as I can’t nlt pay them but he can! He has no responsibilities living with his mum (well I think now his gf in her and her exes home) so he pays no bills etc!!

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Charlie09 · 17/06/2019 14:40

OH ANd he can afford two weeks in Spain in the summer holidays with his new gf and her two kids 🙄 can’t buy our kids new clothes or pay for their clubs etc though. Won’t even contribute towards our child’s birthday party 😕

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Itssosunny · 17/06/2019 14:41

How about not asking him via his sister if he wants to see his children? Don't initiate anything. If by court order he hasn't planned anything then, excuse me, you go out and have fun with your children. He can't expect that he can have them at any time.
Also, plan something for yourself. If he has children you go to the gym or do a hobby. Bringing children after 7pm isn't that late as long as they're not hungry. That would annoy me.

Charlie09 · 17/06/2019 14:46

Yeah I’ve learned my lesson. I feel I’m constantly pushing/ striving for him to pay them more attention/ care more. I’ve been way too nice in the circumstances and had I not asked if he wanted to see them, he wouldn’t have! So from now on I won’t. It’s our child’s birthday soon but I don’t see when he’s seeing him as he’s not asked and we are away the weekend before and on his birthday I’m taking him and some of his friends to airhop after school. So I guess he’s not seeing him. Up until now I’ve worried it’ll affect the children so I’m the one to ask but I guess I need to stop asking. It’s always me trying to coparent and sort things for the kids with him and I’m met with no response to any of it! And he doesn’t ask via his sister.. he goes through our child!! And it shouldn’t be him putting our kids in that situation but if I say anything I’m the horrible ex!

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ColdTattyWaitingForSummer · 17/06/2019 14:56

I think you need to accept that you can’t be friends with someone who does / has abused you. Any communication between you should be simple, emotionless, and purely about the dc. (Easier said than done, I know.) Consider seeing a solicitor and getting contact put on a more official footing. Not court or anything, but a simple written agreement. Unfortunately though you can’t dictate who he sees on his time (obviously unless you have child protection concerns). I do get it, because I’m sure my own ds would prefer 1-1 with his dad, but I grit my teeth and try to speak positively about the gf.
And change your locks ASAP!

Starlight456 · 17/06/2019 15:15

Is his name on the mortgage ? You need legal advice if so .

Charlie09 · 17/06/2019 16:25

Yes it is and I can’t afford to have the mortgage in just my name (well I can afford it as I’m paying it alone) but they wouldn’t put one in just my name. The best I could do is get a court order agreed by a judge that he’s only entitled to half from when he stopped paying. Unfortunately it costs money to get a court order and so I can’t afford that right now!

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Goldmandra · 17/06/2019 19:32

You all say his gf will be around for a long time but really?

It doesn't matter.

NameChangeNugget · 17/06/2019 19:38

Just want to give you a massive unMumsnetty hug OP Flowers

He sounds like a right wanker, he’s playing you like a fiddle as I think he knows if he clicked his fingers you’d go back.

Be brave and look to the future. Without that prick

tinyvulture · 17/06/2019 21:25

You poor thing - sounds horrible! Maybe you should see your GP? You might, very understandably, be struggling to cope now, and they may be able to help? Sorry, don’t mean to be rude at all, it is just that you are in an awful situation right now, and need to look after yourself.

As for your ex, if you can, just let him go, in your heart! In time you will meet someone truly deserving of you, I’m sure.

Just so sorry you are going through all this.......

FancyAPint · 17/06/2019 21:49

OP stop torturing yourself - easier said than done I know. You would be wise to get counselling via your GP or local IAPT agency if you have one (google it).

Also do the Freedom Programme to address the years of abuse;

freedomprogramme.co.uk/online.php

Very glad to see you are going to change your locks.

You need to take a step back but get support to do this via the above.

You will get through this Flowers

ChickenTikkaTellMeWhatsWrong · 18/06/2019 07:23

I'm going through this at the moment, me and my ex split a year ago and he has a new gf of about 6 months and our kids have been introduced to her.
We don't have any problems with him having the kids and we are amicable for them, but he's at that stage now were most of the time they are with their dad and his gf and her kids, it used to really bother me, but I don't let it bother me no more. They are also going abroad in October, which was hard to hear, but I've realised I had to get used to it as there's nothing I can do.
I know it's so hard and there were times I wanted to say, can you not spend time with the kids on your own, but realised I've got no right to say that to him and if I get a bf or even you in the future, it could be exactly the same for us.
We also kept together once about 2 months ago, which I'd never repeat as I felt used and what he said to me afterwards made me feel like shit.
I'm still trying so hard to get over it and i made my own thread the other day which really helped me and i know I'll get over it soon and so will you Flowers

ChickenTikkaTellMeWhatsWrong · 18/06/2019 07:24

*slept not kept

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