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To think curtsying to the royal family is daft?

108 replies

BalletBunting · 12/06/2019 11:57

I really understand why this practice still exists - especially seeing eg Theresa May sinking to the floor to William, a man half her age! I personally wouldn't dream of it, even if I met the Queen herself!

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AlexaAmbidextra · 12/06/2019 12:40

jemihap That was the state banquet for Trump last week. I noticed her too. She looked utterly ridiculous. Especially as she was the only one doing it and she went so low she was almost on the floor. 😂

roisinagusniamh · 12/06/2019 12:40

I dont know any British person who would curtsey or bow, thanfully.
I also think that calling them Your 'Highness' is rediculous . Do people actully think what they are saying?
Treat all people as you would like to be treated.

LaMarschallin · 12/06/2019 12:41

And I feel Theresa May looks horribly grovelly when she does it

Not because she shouldn't, if she wishes to, but because she goes so low!
I thought the idea was that you curtsey below their eyeline (hence Diana in her high heels flashing a large amount of thigh when curtseying to the emperor of Japan; no doubt not premeditated by her...). The queen's short so that could be tricky.
But William's taller than Theresa so a bob, rather than the full ballerina, should suffice, you'd think.

ChewbaccaHutchinsCool · 12/06/2019 12:42

The whole fucking institution of monarchy is daft.

CustardySergeant · 12/06/2019 12:43

*MyOpinionIsValid" There was no mention of Princess Margaret queuing at the bar or anywhere else. The poster mentioned serving Princess Margaret in the bar, ie. bringing the drinks to her.

jenthelibrarian · 12/06/2019 12:44

I had no intention of curtseying to Lord Pilkington when he gave me my degree.

There was a tiny intake of breath from the audience.
I'd been told he'd grip my hand until I curtsied but this turned out to be untrue.

When my daughter got her degree some high-up doffed his very fancy feathery hat to her with a flourish, as she won some award with it, which was really rather fun.

PlatypusPie · 12/06/2019 12:49

I was at a semi private event that a royal was attending and we were told that, if we were presented formally, then a brief knee bob curtsy ( ie, cross right foot behind left ankle and dip slightly) would be appropriate. An American colleague asked if she’s should do the same, as a non subject, and was told, no, not necessary if she did not feel comfortable. Came the intro, I was presented, did my bob without falling over and had brief small talk. They turned to my US colleague next to me who went into a full court curtsy, right down, with bowed head. The royal extended her hand and shook hands whilst also helping her up ! Done very deftly and charmingly.

My colleague said afterwards that she had no idea what came over her - thought too much exposure to Disney princesses might have been a factor Grin

Dowser · 12/06/2019 12:54

Outmoded and outdated

thecatsthecats · 12/06/2019 13:05

There was no mention of Princess Margaret queuing at the bar or anywhere else. The poster mentioned serving Princess Margaret in the bar, ie. bringing the drinks to her.

Thanks, yes - though I am unsure of the exact mechanics of the arrangement (I know that my mum was one of a couple of servers, they were totting up her consumption between them), it was the fact that she refused to curtsy to someone who'd drunk enough to floor an elephant as if she were a superior!

LaMarschallin · 12/06/2019 13:07

I had no intention of curtseying to Lord Pilkington when he gave me my degree.

Why on earth should you?
I thought he was a life peer.

Even in the mad world that revolves around royal protocol, that surely wouldn't be expected?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/06/2019 13:31

I'm sure I have read somewhere that the Queen doesn't mind whether people curtsey or not - it is their choice, if they want to, but she doesn't expect it.

Does anyone remember the scene from 'dinnerladies' where Dolly and Jean are practising their curtseys in advance of the royal visit, and Tony talks about groin muscles snapping all over the place.

Damntheman · 12/06/2019 13:34

My colleague said afterwards that she had no idea what came over her - thought too much exposure to Disney princesses might have been a factor GrinGrin This story is everything!

bringincrazyback · 12/06/2019 13:37

It's subservient bollocks IMHO. They're just people, they go to the toilet just like the rest of us.

Besides which I have balance/coordination issues and don't think I could even pull off a curtsey without wobbling.

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 12/06/2019 13:47

they go to the toilet just like the rest of us.

But .....do they? In my fantasy world, none of the gorgeous guys on my radar bother with such mundane bodily functions Grin

AlexaAmbidextra · 12/06/2019 13:52

Apparently the Queen once said she could see Cherie Blair’s knees visibly stiffen when they met, so determined was CB to not curtsey. 😄

MarshaBradyo · 12/06/2019 13:52

Ha that made me laugh

LenoVentura · 12/06/2019 13:54

I wouldn't curtsey to anyone for preference, but if forced pushed would possibly agree to curtsey to our own monarch, but not to any other of our royals or anyone else's royals.

Technically we are subjects of the Queen, not citizens of a republic, so logically one would curtsey to HM, but there's no rhyme nor reason to curtsey to anyone else at all, as we aren't their subjects.

Americans bend the knee to nobody except god.

MyGirlDaisy · 12/06/2019 14:05

I noticed that too, @Jemihap - it did look odd. I am generally a fan of the royals and greatly admire and respect the Queen, but I do think curtsying is a bit outdated now and I wouldn't do it I don’t think. I read an article about which royals should curtesy to each other and the hierarchy and when Kate is with William I think the protocol changes etc, I did wonder if they really go round curtsying to each other behind closed doors. Same as I wonder if you work at the Palace and you bump into a royal in the corridor do you curtesy? What about if you have just cleaned the royal loo? You meet them coming in to use it? I just can’t see that they do all that bobbing behind closed doors?

Letthemysterybe · 12/06/2019 14:10

Ive just read curtesy too many times. It now sounds like a made up word.

Hearthside · 12/06/2019 14:11

Absolutely not ,not even to the Queen. I have respect for the Queen but draw the line at doing a curtsey .I think the Royal family is outdated and too privileged and would much rather we were a republic but can't see that ever happening.

bingoitsadingo · 12/06/2019 14:15

Regardless of "respect", I think curtseying is a really weird thing to do if you aren't in a long skirt or gown. It looks so weird. Look at all the pictures of Theresa May looking like Smeagol as she does it!

crazyasafox · 12/06/2019 14:18

If you don't want to curtsey in front of the Royals, then don't do it... DUH!!!!!!

LaurieFairyCake · 12/06/2019 14:25

This is just one of the many internal conflicts I live with.

Politically a republican, curtseying is outdated, the royals including the Queen do not demand it etc

But I would LOVE to curtsey to the Queen. I think she personally is incredible and I have enormous admiration for her personally.

MissClareRemembers · 12/06/2019 14:27

A colleague of mine had to meet and greet the Queen plus Duke of Edinburgh at a stately home with Royal connections. She was very nervous but all was going well until the D of E told her off for getting the etiquette wrong. Apparently she’d referred to the Queen incorrectly and he was incredibly patronising and rude.

I know, hard to believe coming from him! 😂

HollowTalk · 12/06/2019 14:29

I had no intention of curtseying to Lord Pilkington when he gave me my degree.

There was a tiny intake of breath from the audience.

I don't think anyone in the world would be curtseying to Lord Pilkington! He's never been a member of the Royal Family.

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