If you put kids to bed at 6pm ...

[ichifanny]

Just out of interest , I keep hearing parents talking about kids getting up at 4am - 5am I have 4 including a baby and apart from the newborn stage it’s never happened to any of mine unless they are ill or otherwise disrupted . Is it not just the case that if you put your kids to bed at 6-7pm then it makes sense they will be up with the larks ? Does it happen often that kids who go to bed about 8.30pm -9pm still get up early ?

My daughters ideal bedtime is 7-7:30 and if she is comfortably asleep by this time she will wake 6:30/7 in the morning

Any later and she wakes earlier (and is then an overtired mess for the whole day)

I dislike early mornings and I don't mind sharing my evenings so the bedtime isn't my choice. If she'd sleep 8-7:30 I'd be happy with this but it won't happen

I have had to go with my daughters ideal schedule rather than what I'd prefer as she is so much happier when she is well rested

Cassian it’s a vicious cycle with my DD she has always struggled with overtiredness, wouldn’t sleep at all as a baby and now 3 1/2 prob still doesn’t get as much sleep as she needs.

When we tried putting her down later she wasn’t just waking at the same time as you’d expect she was waking up a lot earlier and then grumpy and falling asleep in the car during the day. This meant she’d be up even later and the cycle would continue. We tried with the later bedtimes for about two weeks or so but it was just a nightmare for everyone and she didn’t settle into it at all.

I think the fact that when we moved her bedtime forward instead it actually worked in helping her sleep longer proved that she did need the extra sleep.

Mine goes at 6pm because I found it didn't matter if they went at 6pm or 10pm they are still up 5am sharp so I would rather 5am and 4 additional hours of sleep in them

100% happens.

Both my kids (4 and almost 3) their bedtime is between 6 and 7pm latest. They will wake up around 7am.

If i was to put them to bed, which sometimes it does happen, around 9/10pm they will still be up at 7am. Sometimes earlier.

Mine went through a stage of getting up at 6am... a very long stage 😳🙄 and everyone would tell me to put them to bed later.
All this done was make them cranky when they woke up at 6am the next morning!!! So I'd rather them in bed at 6pm and up at 6/7am.. then bed later and still up the same time but desperately tired!

My sons are up between 5.30-6.30 everyday. If they go to bed at 9pm, they are up same time as if they go to bed at 6.30pm, although on average bed is about 7pm.

We’re all up early anyway though, I leave for work at 6.45 and OH and the boys leave by 7.15 so any later and we’d be waking them up!

DD 19 months usually goes to bed anywhere from 6-7pm and will get up anywhere from 7-8:30am, it depends on the day she's had. If she's had a busy day she'll sleep for longer. If I keep her up for a particular reason (if we're on holiday or a special occasion) then she still gets up at her usual time but then she's incredibly grumpy.

Mine always slept in until 8/9 but they went to bed between 8&9.

Mine go to bed at 7pm they get up between 9/10am. I've been very lucky with my two I'm not risking it with a third

My DD simply cannot stay awake beyond 6.30pm. If we try and keep her up she howls inconsolably until we put her in bed and turn out the light, at which point she does a satisfied, relieved sigh, turns over and goes to sleep. Sometimes she wakes up at 5.30am, sometimes she sleeps until 8am. Either way, her bedtime is the same.

They've only ever really gone to bed late when we had a family party and they did get up at 1130am.

Mine are night owls 😔

When I was on mat leave (and the kids were baby, or baby and toddler) they slept 9-9 (better for the family as DH has long commute and not home til 7ish). When I went back to work, we changed their bedtime half an hour daily until it was 7-7. Same in reverse when I started mat leave again. So in my experience, yes, bedtime does correlate to waking up time. But generally mine were good reliable sleepers that slept 12+ hours a night from about 8 weeks old. The same may well not apply to children with sleep issues.

Try weeks and weeks and weeks of adjusting by 5/10 minutes (himself, not on my part) until sure as nails he's back to his usual 5.15am.
That confirms what I was saying doesn't it? His wake up time does shift. So it must be possible to shift it by two or three hours, not just one random hour imposed by the time changing.

No judgement but...firstly, young children, particularly primary school aged children, shouldn't be staying up until 9pm on a regular basis.

Secondly, OP, you say that people you know have "admitted" their children go to bed at 6 or 7 pm. They sound like sensible people who get their kids into bed at an appropriate time rather than letting their kids rattle around the house until they get over tired and zonk out.

Thirdly, many many children wake at 5am regardless of what time they go to bed. These parents will have tried many different things in an attempt to get them to sleep later and nothing will work because the child has its own body clock calling the shots. The last thing these people need are smug comments along the lines of "Ive had 4 children and none of mine have done this" or "just put them to bed later". The worst is when someone suggests a fucking gro-clock.

Fourthly, no judgement my arse.

DS 2yrs, in bed 8.30pm, asleep by 9.30pm (sometimes later as he's teething with his last molars right now, and having development leaps left, right and centre).

Wakes up at 6am 😭

BlueThang

I think all those early mornings have got to
you... Maybe you pulled your judgey pants up a bit too high today.

I live abroad where it would be considered totally insane and almost cruel to put a child to bed at 6 or even 7 when it's still daylight outside and every other child in the country is still up! My DC go to bed around 9 and wake up at 9. It's lovely. This goes for all the children I know here too - no crazy early nights so no crazy early mornings.

Morning!!! All up here. It is 6.50 tho.

Framy mine just deal with time differences. Dinner is later, breakfast is later, but DS1 STILL wakes before 6 am within a couple of days. I believe he wakes several times a night, and checks the clock. Thankfully he is big enough now to lie quietly, and often drops back off. But it has taken years of patience to keep him in bed til 6am (uk) or 5.15 (current country - everything happens early here, and that's the time DH has to get up for work, so that's the time he's allowed the lights on to read).
At his record, he has had 3 hrs sleep before a flight, been woken at midnight, stayed awake through 12 hrs of travel, and then 12 hrs of daytime at location..... I, on the other hand, am a gibbering wreck by that point! He just doesn't need sleep!

Haha Bluethang because going to bed at 9pm is so much worse for a child than waking up at 4.30 in the morning OK 👌🏻

FYI put my baby to bed at 7pm last night and she got up at 6am so will be going back to my 9pm slot again .

Lots of over sensitive people on here needing to lash out at someone because they are up at 5am every morning eh .

I have an early riser regardless of bed time. His bedtime was never any earlier than 8 as I wanted to spend time with him after work but he has always woken up early. Even if he is up very late he will wake at the same time and be hideously grumpy. Luckily he is old enough now that he can entertain himself in the morning, although I seem to have caught it from him as I am often awake before 7 these days.

When mine were tiny like between 4 months and 2 they were on their knees by 6.15-6.30. It was awful for everyone to keep them awake so they just went to bed and got up around 5.45-6. I'm an earlyish riser so adjusted to this and was fine about it. It was infinitely better than grizzly evenings trying to keep them up.
They are 6 and 4 now and younger bed at 7 older 7.30-8. They still get up between 6.14 and 7

Surely it doesn't matter what time sleep happens, as long as everyone is getting enough of it.

I live in a country where no body puts their children to bed before 8 or 9 and O have never heard of children (not babies!) waking up at 4 or 5 am! Maybe it's sleeping in total darkness that helps too.