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to think that this means BJ should be exempt from public office

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floraloctopus · 29/05/2019 12:31

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48445430

If he's going to face trial over his alleged lies then he shouldn't be able to stand as potential leader of the Tory party.

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CassianAndor · 29/05/2019 14:48

Yes, I wondered that - why are Farage and Gove not in the dock?

Coldilox · 29/05/2019 14:49

I hold public office (police officer) and if I was facing trial for this offence I’d be suspended from duty. Or at the very least on restricted duty with no direct contact with the public.

Coldilox · 29/05/2019 14:50

Garage wasn’t part of the official leave campaign was he?

LellyMcKelly · 29/05/2019 14:53

Boris Johnson is a knob end. In a way I wish he would get the PM gig because it would eat him alive and he’d screw it up ferociously. But I’d only want that if it wasn’t British and didn’t have to live in the UK. It would be hilarious from a distance.

MenuPlant · 29/05/2019 14:55

Isn't it illegal for politicians to tell outright lies during elections?

If so then he should be prosecuted anyway, no need for a private one. Many people (that I know) voted leave on the basis of this NHS claim.

Then look at the result Boris looked sick and ran away and hid.

He's a liar. He has a history of saying really damaging things. And really stupid things.

Why the fuck anyone would want him running the Country is anyone's guess. The buffoon thing is an act he is clever and only interested in one thing which is him.

MenuPlant · 29/05/2019 14:56

This was the one that I remember from recently

'Slip of the tongue’ on Iranian detention
During a 2017 select committee hearing the then-foreign secretary erroneously said Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe – still detained in Iran – was training journalists in the region. After Mr Johnson’s comments the 38-year-old Briton was hauled in front of an Iranian court and told her sentence could double.'

No its not fucking funny Boris.

HappydaysArehere · 29/05/2019 14:58

He’s got pots of money and a giant ego. He probably thinks a couple of Latin phrases and a gag or two will pull him off the hook. If it does then our legal system needs investigating. Also the idiot MPs who are supporting him in the hope that by backing a winner they will earn a reward. Well, would you trust a promise made by Johnson? I have never disliked a politician as much as Boris Johnson and I have been voting for a very long time..

HappydaysArehere · 29/05/2019 15:06

I believe the reason why he hasn’t been suspended from the PM election bun fight is that we are so accustomed to his incompetence and misdemeanours that the public doesn’t respond to them any more.
Also, as said before he is steeped in wealth and ego.

jasjas1973 · 29/05/2019 15:08

UK law allows the public to elect convicted criminals, even those currently serving time

It’s democracy

Not really, Boris is trying to become Tory leader and Prime Minister but with no public vote.

BJ could serve many years in prison if found guilty, could a future PM be able to run the country from Parkhurst?

Bluebluered · 29/05/2019 15:11

I thought this thread was going to be about inappropriate sexual acts (BJ) in an office. Neither, in this case, are acceptable.

Biker47 · 29/05/2019 15:37

Not really, Boris is trying to become Tory leader and Prime Minister but with no public vote.

Learn about voting in this country first, there is never a public vote for a Prime Minister or leader of a political party.

Pk37 · 29/05/2019 15:40

He’s a dangerous oaf and he’ll finish off the UK once and for all

Far2go46 · 29/05/2019 15:47

No but we have a minority party in power who choosing a leader for the country, that's not Democratic

donquixotedelamancha · 29/05/2019 15:50

I think I'm going to post this on every thread. The real joy is from about 7 min in but the whole thing is worth watching. The man is a POS.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 29/05/2019 15:54

Why is Farage not included, he was the one who laughingly said on Breakfast TV, the day after to referendum, off course it was a lie?

Because Farage wasn’t involved in the Leave campaign

He ran his own campaign and was miffed he wasn’t allowed in but the Leave campaign let Farage do the really dirty work in regards to immigration they didn’t condone what he was saying just pointed out he is running his own campaign

Bluntness100 · 29/05/2019 16:00

I was just reading about this too.

It's a thought provoking one. I believe that if politicians deliberately mislead the public they should be held accountable. And he did mislead the public. He knew it was not 350 million because he stated it at other times what it really was.

The despicable Rees mogg is giving it that courts can't interfere with politicians and sometimes they exaggerate, but I think that's like saying it's ok for people in positions of power to lie if they think the end justifies the means. It's not ok.

On the whole, I think I am coming down on the side of there is a case to be answered here.

Yes he is innocent till proven guilty but we all heard him say it and we also can easily see the times where he explained it accurately. So either he is so fucking thick he's not fit for office, or he lied, and he's still not fit for office. And let's be honest. He's not thick. He just never thought he'd be held accountable.

I think I'm coming down on the side of he should be made an example of, because politicians can't get away with lying to the public to get a result they want, and especially not on something as big as brexit.

thenightsky · 29/05/2019 17:07

That video is quite something. 'You're a nasty piece of work aren't you'

donquixotedelamancha · 29/05/2019 17:52

That video is quite something. 'You're a nasty piece of work aren't you'

Eddie Mair is fantastic, gently and relentlessly stating bare facts and asking blunt questions.

What gets me is Mr Johnson's confidence even having been caught on film arranging an assault. He knows with certainty that there will be no comeback for anything he does. He hardly bothers to make excuses.

jasjas1973 · 29/05/2019 20:34

@Biker47 Not really, Boris is trying to become Tory leader and Prime Minister but with no public vote

Learn about voting in this country first, there is never a public vote for a Prime Minister or leader of a political party

Perhaps you need to learn about context and to read the post i was replying too?
Where the PP said that the law allows people to voted (via a public vote) into Parliament even with criminal convictions...... i was replying to that point.

CassianAndor · 29/05/2019 20:37

What I would like to know is why is this happening via a private prosecution? Shouldn’t the DPP being hauling him over the coals for telling out-and-out lies during a campaign?

Gth1234 · 29/05/2019 21:35

I think it's unbelievable that someone thinks a criminal offence has been committed.

I think I will ask the police to prosecute Blair about claiming he was "tough on crime"

Gth1234 · 29/05/2019 21:38

And what about George. Osborne, Mark Carney etc al, claiming we WOULD be so much worse off if we left. How is that a fact? It's no different.

This prosecution is dangerous, and can only be because we have a politicised judiciary.

Miljah · 29/05/2019 22:07

Gtg we will be worse off 'once we've left'.

There. I've said it because it is a fact.

However, as we haven't left yet, Carney et al can sleep safely tonight.

However, the Boris Bus claim is verifiably a lie. He stated something he knew to be a lie.

I'm sure you can appreciate the distinction.

donquixotedelamancha · 29/05/2019 22:31

This prosecution is dangerous, and can only be because we have a politicised judiciary.

We have amongst the least politicised judiciary in the world.

This prosecution is only possible because he so obviously and egregiously lied. It's not the dodgy figure quoted, it's the way he lied when asked to clarify, but used the correct figure in other contexts.

Still the prosecution will fail.

familycourtq · 07/06/2019 15:56

Still the prosecution will fail.

Good prediction - it did.

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