to think chavy, tacky hen parties should SOD off [Edited by MNHQ at OP's request]

[CannoninD]

I’m fed up.
I’ve lived in my beautiful, respectful and historic city my entire life .... but over the last year it’s been invaded by GOD AWFUL hen parties!

20+ strong groups of horrifically common (referring to behaviour not social class) women who inflict their horrific behaviour on everybody within reach.

They’re EVERYWHERE and I know it’s not just me as there are sunbstantial concerns being raised by residents all over the city.

I counted 23 large groups this weekend (I only walked into the (small ish) city centre on Saturday morning and witnessed the following behaviour-

• Loud swearing (F and C word) right in front of/across young families and children just trying to enjoy a day out.
• Shop doors slammed in elderly shoppers faces (too busy pratting around to pay any attention).
• Stock being damaged by pratting about (and then hidden) to avoid paying.
• Horrifically vulgar and inappropriate content being loudly discussed in family areas (a garden/park area) to the point that families got up and left.
• Completely inappropriate Lingerie being worn in the street (before 2pm).
• Vomiting in the street! Whilst being jeered by the rest of the group.

Personally I would rather bleach out my own eyes than go on a hen do like this- but honestly at what point do we just call the police on these ridiculous idiots inflicting such unreasonable behaviour on families and regular people? What’s worse is, I bet back home they’re perfectly normal women. They just all get together and come away from home and behave like total arseholes!

Being in a large group and celebrating an event- does not give you a hall pass to behave like scum. 😡

@CannoninD

What is the point of this thread and your angry ranting, if you're not going to tell us where you are?!

It's like people who post a thread moaning that people hate the name they have chosen for their baby, but refuse to tell us the name.

So annoying, and pointless!

So what city are you from? Where are you on about???

This is endemic in Durham and Newcastle, too, though my 15 year old's face was a picture when he was faced with an inflatable willy in a shopping trolley in the metrocentre of all places, last week !
The most civilised Saturday afternoon in Durham, in recent years, was that one when everyone was actually inside the pub for the World Cup.

You're over invested, there, Mabel. It's a problem in many cities. The specifics really do not matter to you.

If it's where I think it is yep it's awful. Never go out on a Saturday night, always avoid town on a Saturday during the day and found myself telling a stag off the other friday, early on, for pissing up a nunnery door wherever it is it's not on.

Firstly, I've quite wanted to go to York- I'll make sure it's a weekday!

Could you take it up with your local councillor and see if they're willing to come up with something?

And of course the time of day matters- if it's during the night I won't have to face questions like "why does that lady have a willy? Can she wee out of it? Can we buy one? Actually where do you buy willies from?"

@PickAChew

You seem over invested mabel.

So?

the specifics do not matter to you.

Yes they do.

I reckon many posters are curious about which 'historic, classy city' is being ruined for the OP....

And where she thinks the boozy chavs (as she calls them) should go instead?!

Not sure why you think it would be better for such behaviour to be on display internationally though

Errr seperldem where has the OP said she wants the behaviour shown internationally???

Is it because she said "I rather hope some people (due to go on hen do’s) may see this and take it onboard"

You do know the difference between onboard and abroad don't you??

I normally hate picking people up on english language useage as i'm dyslexic myself but i really do think you've misintered the OP's meaning. She wants people to listen how these hen do's affect residents and other people visiting think about their behaviour before they arrange these things (take onboard) not to take the hen dos out of her city and take them internationally (take abroad)

I bet a lot of the hoodlums from hens/ stags would be appalled if the same behaviour became normal on their doorstep, particularly if kids are present.

I’m sure stags are just as bad - but we have fewer of them. So it’s less of an imediate issue for me. I can only comment on what I witness.

@mabel - actually I have quite a few suggestions for where ‘people who swear/behave inappropriately infront of kids and families’ can go... but I’ll get banned for writing them on here 😬

So your city is either Bath, York, Canterbury or Oxford. (Dublin was also mentioned in earlier posts but that’s not small surely.) My money’s on York then Bath then Canterbury. I used to live in York 20 years ago and it’s a great city, what a shame if it’s a nightmare at the weekend.

I bet a lot of the hoodlums from hens/ stags would be appalled if the same behaviour became normal ontheirdoorstep, particularly if kids are present

Oh of course and whats the betting gibson and mabel who seem to think this is oh so hilarious would be the first to be upset if it waa happening where they lived

mabelsgarden I don’t think Op was suggesting they go elsewhere.,,just not be so offensive during the normal working day.

Hardly a big ask.

And it is rare that i can pick out an obvious stag party from the hoards of male drunks. I don't know whether it's an issue of time of day, or of location.

If this was happening where I lived, I'd be posting along the lines of 'Could those on hen/stag weekends please be a little more considerate in the city centre? I've just seen a group of women talking really loudly about cocks and fannies right next to some DC and I bet their parents were mortified. Also saw a door being slammed in a senior's face. I don't want to sound like a party pooper but would people please be more considerate?'

It's perfectly possible to request these things without using words like 'chavvy', 'common' and 'classy'. It's also worth bearing in mind that not every stag or hen party causing these issues is from out of town. Inferring that they are just adds to the air of superiority.

York resident here waves

While I agree that obviously some of the behaviour is abhorrent, there's no need to be a bit of a dick about it.
as others have questioned- The stags are 100% worse than the hens for starters. Yeah, the women are probably often louder but generally, the men are the ones picking fights and causing actual damage and crime.

Also, slightly controversial but i own a few businesses in the city centre, and without outing myself, one or two of them are in leisure/hospitality and honestly without those knobheads paying customers who are out for a good time, my business would have folded a long time ago. Our high street is absolutely on its arse and without the booming tourism in the city, it would be in an even worse state.

Hen and Stag dos were one of the reasons I moved away from York a couple of years ago, I've not regretted it for a minute.

Yanbu OP and actually it pisses me off that people are saying it's ok after 10pm. It's not ok to behave like a pissed up loud aggressive cunt at any time. I do agree with a pp that groups of men are just as bad if not worse - generally louder and more fighty. Dunno what you can do about it though as British people in the provinces generally tolerate and expect fucking appalling public behaviour and have done for decades.

I grew up in a seaside town and the centre was always always full of pissed arseholes on a weekend and still is now, forty years later. Went to York a couple of years ago and ok the old buildings are nice but sweet Jesus after dark it's like sodom and fucking Gomorrah. Place was a fucking midden by about 10pm, we saw two separate fist fights, neither of which the coppers were remotely interested in, and there was a tangible air of menace about the place. Certainly won't be going back to a dump like that again in a hurry.

We saw a woman trying to have sex with a traffic cone recently, about 4pm on a Saturday afternoon.

This really made me chuckle.

I was in York on a Saturday (late afternoon - 3-4pm) about a month ago (visiting relatives).

I absolutely encountered the behaviour the OP described.

Multiple gangs of hen/stag events marauding around, pissed up, loud, swearing, singing (if you can call it that - screeching/yelling would be a better description - songs with adult lyrics) and yes a huge number absolutely inappropriately dressed (I'd say in for outside the home in general but definitely for 3pm).

I was really shocked. It wasn't a "few" people. It was easily 15 "gangs" we encountered of between 6 and 20 people.

We've visited before and it's never been as prolific. It's a beautiful city, but frankly we couldn't leave soon enough.

I appreciate what a pp has said about trade and tourism but frankly I think this "type" of tourism is counter productive.

I can well imagine many other families not staying in the centre because of this behaviour and trade sufferers overall because it turns a place from a beautiful historic city people want to visit to having a reputation that it's a no-go area at a weekend.

We had planned on dining out in the centre for our evening meal, but left due to the reasons above and went to a lovely bistro pub on the outskirts instead near to our relatives.

I really do think it's a shame.

York is a beautiful city and I've enjoyed visiting it, but after my last experience I think that unless someone gets a grip on the problem it's reputation as a place to visit and thus economy will be damaged.

I agree.

York.

Chester.

Fecking Liverpool, 3 cities I've spent time in recently and each time ended up being stunned by the behaviour from large packs of women pissed up in the daytime. (( And stags tbh, but it is predominantly women ))........they even come up my neck of the woods (( the lake District )) the behaviour is disgusting........I honestly cringe for them, trying so hard to prove they've still got it 50 years too late.

Nope.

Nopety

Nopety

Nope.

Just no. There are ways to have fun without lowering oneself to behaving like a total knobhead.

Of course businesses would fold without them - no one else would be willing to be in the same place as them. They're just chasing all the other customers away.

It's horrendous on the trains into Edinburgh on a Saturday, even at lunchtime. Loud, drunken women screeching and swearing at the top of their voices. Stag parties seem to be a lot quieter at that time, just putting the drink away. At least Edinburgh doesn't depend on them for custom.

DeRigueurMortis I wished we'd gone to somewhere non-central for our evening meal. I honestly felt frightened, especially at the fights with nobody doing fuck all about them. It reminded me of my shitheap home town, just how lawless it was, which shocked me. I mean, I know what to expect in the place I grew up because it's cheap and nasty with a drug problem, but York is fucking expensive - though equally as unsafe and definitely as nasty.

this was happening where I lived, I'd be posting along the lines of 'Could those on hen/stag weekends please be a little more considerate in the city centre? I've just seen a group of women talking really loudly about cocks and fannies right next to some DC and I bet their parents were mortified. Also saw a door being slammed in a senior's face. I don't want to sound like a party pooper but would people please be more considerate?

Your attitude on here gibson has proved you avsolutely would not be phasing it this manner at all. The irony in you being "upset" at the words classy/chav and accusing the OP of being a snob (thinking shes better than a load of drunks emvarressing themselves) when you've just proved you think your better than OP and you'd phase it in such a polite and convoluted way because your so much than any one else (i have news for you, you are not and are actually coming over as arrogent, uncompassionate and failing to understand)

And do understand anger/frustration/annoyance you often use words that express those feelings. You live where this behaviour happens you would be at your wits end too. I live in a quiet little cotswald village i'm however not fool enough to think its abosolutely hilarious and this behaviour is any way acceptable and therefore think its hilarious to bully the OP

I recently took the risk of taking the 555 bus from bowness to Grasmere (( open top bus )) with DC. I wouldn't usually as it's a well used drinks run, the route stops at all the pubs on the way and traditionally the pissed up rabble take over the top deck.

Decided to risk it as it was a weekday and ds wanted to go on. All fine until half way round when about 20 women boarded, the language was disgusting, they were obviously healthcare workers of some sort as they were talking about intimate care and 'scraping thrush off and getting canesten into all the moist bits ' on and on.

My poor DS was cowering at the side of me, it isn't behaviour he's used to at all. Eventually an elderly couple went downstairs in tears. And my dp asked them to tone it down.........so he got a load of crap directed at him........the high point being one of them putting her fingers in her underwear then waving them in his face.

We ended up getting off early, can't even phone the police as it's pointless. We don't have any 😂😂😂