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To be worried about third hand smoke?

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lovehasadiameter · 28/05/2019 14:50

MIL has offered to help us out with childcare for my 1 year old DD which I am extremely grateful for but I'm concerned about the risks of third hand smoke as MIL is a very heavy smoker.

At the moment, most visits take place in my home or we all go out somewhere together for the day and MIL does not smoke in front of my DD (but will go outside for a cigarette and come straight back in to play with her etc and often has to be reminded to wash her hands).

She plans to have my DD at her own home and whilst she usually smokes either at an open window or at her back door, I have been reading that this doesn't necessarily reduce the risk as the chemicals will still be present on her clothes and hair etc and can still contaminate her house?

AIBU to be concerned about the effects of third hand smoke for my DD?

OP posts:
IceCreamFace · 28/05/2019 17:16

@ostentatiousfamilygardentime See here for a decent review of the risks of third hand smoke with links to articles.

spam390 · 28/05/2019 17:17

P.S As my 'little darlings' are now healthy, happy, well adjusted, educated and productive adult members of society, I'd say my 'educated and informed' parenting skills have proved successful.
Hope you and your 'freaked out , overprotective, overbearing, family destroying, non resource building style of parenting works well for YOU.
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Invisimamma · 28/05/2019 17:18

Yanbu. And if she's smoking at a window or doorway that's second hand smoke, not third.

There's lots of good info at www.rightoutside.org

IceCreamFace · 28/05/2019 17:21

@spam390

That isn't an even a remotely reasoned argument. My dad was brought up by two smoking parents, they smoked 24-7 in the house - my grandma would smoke in the kids' bedroom while reading them a bedtime story. He grew up fine. His parents actually both lived to a ripe old age. My uncle was a prolific drink driver and never got into an accident

Does that prove all the research wrong - are all the parents who quit smoking over protective, family destroying idiots?No obviously not. Your reply is clearly irrational and defensive.

ostentatiousfamilygardentime · 28/05/2019 17:21

The term "thirdhand smoke" was coined in 2009 by two anti smoking cranks in California based on a survey asking adults if they thought a room where people had been smoking the day before would be harmful to kids. When most thought yes they sussed it was an excellent lie to persuade people to not allow smoking in the home.
Evidence free junk science leaped on by health professionals to further stigmatise smokers. As evidenced by this thread, very successfully.
Still waiting for any links to science which shows actual harm suffered by anyone (humans only please) exposed to "thirdhand smoke". Clue, there isn't any.

spam390 · 28/05/2019 17:21

P.S As my 'little darlings' are now healthy, happy, well adjusted, educated and productive adult members of society, I'd say my 'educated and informed' parenting skills have proved successful.
Hope you and your 'freaked out , overprotective, overbearing, family destroying, non resource building style of parenting works well for you.
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ostentatiousfamilygardentime · 28/05/2019 17:27

IceCreamFace None of the papers cited in that piece show evidence of actual harm to humans from exposure to "thirdhand smoke".

IceCreamFace · 28/05/2019 17:34

@ostentatiousfamilygardentime

the research was actually conducted on mice and found brain and liver danger, skeletal changes as well as insulin resistance. For obvious reasons the results can't be directly tested on children. The NHS advice is always for adults caring for children not to smoke as even if they smoke outside they bring the smoke back in with them so the kids will be passively inhaling in any case.

ZippyBungleandGeorge · 29/05/2019 17:30

There are some risks in life that on balance can be taken as they are necessary in some way eg leaving the house. There are others that aren't necessary that can be mitigated. Smoking around children is the latter. Could she look after dd at your house? She's less likely to bend the rules that way, and think oh it's raining I'll have this one in the kitchen with the window open, etc.

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