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To wonder if a camper van is worth it? Have campervan envy!

183 replies

malificent7 · 27/05/2019 08:24

I am in a campsite in a tent with campervan envy.
They are so lovely but very ecpensive and i am on a budget. If i did get one it would be 2nd hand. Any advice / recommendations about owning a van without breaking the bank?
It is the mechanics that worries me most after hearing some horror stories.

OP posts:
Bettybeautiful28 · 28/05/2019 22:58

Lots of people on here talking about their love of vans but no indication if they have kids. They are easy to love as a couple.

I drive my Vw transporter as a car and live in a big city. I’ve never had a problem - just about multi stories and don’t like taking it into the city centre (if I need to park there). Otherwise it’s easy as your every day vehicle.

MatthewBramble · 28/05/2019 23:11

Look at the cost of petrol for those things. Tents are a heck of a lot cheaper.

VetOnCall · 28/05/2019 23:29

We're looking at van options at the moment too. We're in Canada, don't have kids and go to the mountains pretty much every weekend. We have a few really good tents but we want to be able to move around more easily. We're debating buying a 4x4 Sprinter and converting, or buying a pop-up truck camper like the photo. We already have a large pick-up truck and the benefits are that we can go off-road/backcountry with no problems, and remove the camper and use the truck as normal if we need to. They're massively popular here - so many people have huge trucks anyway so you just need to add the camper.

If we happen to find ourselves with a spare $500,000 (US, not Canadian!) any time soon we'll get an EarthRoamer Grin

To wonder if a camper van is worth it? Have campervan envy!
Tiscold · 28/05/2019 23:44

@venusandmars. They look really nice actually, the little eco warrior in me is loving them.

@VetOnCall. What gets me about earth roamer is they look so small, yet fit so much bloody stuff and luxury into it

Mooveo · 29/05/2019 00:05

When talking to other Motorhome owners about the Bad & good side pros and cons you would fit in a whole encyclopaedia but there is one thing above all and that’s sleeping arrangements if you can’t get your head down for a good nights kip better off staying at home

MitziK · 29/05/2019 01:26

I just remember the cold, the noise, the fucking carparks and, most of all, the angry expressions on the faces of locals when I got out of the van with a lot of traveller related racial abuse because of my appearance.

Motorhomeuser · 29/05/2019 02:22

Unless you are retired I wouldnt bother. It isnt a bed of roses having one either. People dont like them, especially if spoiling their view or parked where they can see them from their houses. Servicing and yearly maintenance is expensive. Depreciation is massive. Fuel costs high. Speak to several owners, heating electricity gas water Cleaning it all present problems

Motorhomeuser · 29/05/2019 02:27

Tents are the pittz, you really are roughing it. Damp cold often no toilet, uncomfortable noisy squashed no storage

Durgasarrow · 29/05/2019 03:10

No, this is a stupid waste of money. You can go to a hotel for a fraction of the cost.

pictish · 29/05/2019 06:43

Because going to hotel is what everyone wants out of a holiday or break away. No point going anywhere where there isn’t a hotel. Wink

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 29/05/2019 07:50

Hotels with kids are rubbish though.

This weekend we paid £25 a night for the 5 of us to go to a lovely spot in the countryside. We went on walks, the boys played out with friends they had met from dawn til dusk and sat around a campfire in the evening toasting marshmallows and drinking gin with friends.

We do that pretty much every weekend at this time of year. Tomorrow we're off again to the seaside with 2 groups òf friends. It's a fabulous way for the children to have the freedom that I experienced growing up in the 70s.

florascotia2 · 29/05/2019 08:01

It's great to hear from campervan owners and users who are responsible.

Re wild camping - as I'm sure you know, in Scotland, there is a 'right to roam' on foot across private land but there is no right to drive any vehicle on to private land. If anyone does, they can lawfully be asked to move away by the landowner, and if they go further than 15 m from a public road, they may be committing an offence:

" the Road Traffic Act 1988 makes it an offence to drive a motor vehicle onto private land without lawful authority. No offence is committed, however, where a person drives within 15 yards of a public road for the purpose of parking. However, this does not imply that a person has a right to do so. "

ALSO ( to agree with car-park comment from earlier poster):
"Pitching up at the side of a public road is not considered wild camping, however remote the route. Better to use an official campsite with sanitation facilities if there is one available in the area. "

both quotes from
www.walkscotland.com/wildcamping.htm

Mrsdavies1976 · 29/05/2019 08:22

We have had a camper an for a few years now its the best thing we have ever bought. I remember the days of being sat in a campsite in a tent longing for a van lol. We constantly go camping at wknds or holidays much cheaper than hotels and warmer than a tent kids love it . I would recommend it to anyone

loubielou31 · 29/05/2019 12:26

@John(and some numbers) to be fair DH doesn't mind towing at all either and if we haven't put up the awning then hitching up is the work of minutes. We have youngish DC so we do use the car whilst away for more than a day or two and not having to put the washing up and all the breakfast things away before going out makes such a difference to me.

tallbirduk · 29/05/2019 15:13

DH and I had a 1985 VW T25 hightop which we bought on a whim (very out of character), sold both our cars, packed in our jobs and went travelling in around Europe for 2 months. It was awesome.

On our return the van was our only vehicle which meant we drove less because it was slowww, but it was a very handy when we needed it - and we carried on camping.

When DS1 came along we constructed a cage in the roof bed so he couldn’t escape and he slept up there. When DS2 arrived we gave in and bought an awning - but that really spoiled the “turn up and we’re camping” thing which was part of what we liked so much about the van, so we had to change.

7 years ago we bought a sensible car and a 6 berth motorhome - and sold the VW (after 8 years of owning it) for the same ££ as we paid for it. I cried when it went Sad

However, the big van is what we need - it’s fully loaded and ready to go apart from clothes and food. The kids sleep in the overcab bed and we have a massive bed up the back, plus there’s a table in the middle we can leave up. There’s a toilet & shower. We have a solar panel and gas so we can do self-sufficient.

We camp on a mixture of campsites and temporary holiday sites (Camping & caravan club - ~£10/night) in this country, but when abroad we often wild camp (if allowed) or use Aires in towns. This was the same in our old van.

In France the attitude to motor homes is very different to the one presented here. They often provide overnight parking spaces for vans as they recognise that we do bring money into the economy.

Certainly when we are camping we shop, eat, drink, etc in the local area. The money we save by vanning rather than hotel/b&b is money we spend outside (if that makes sense?).

As for being stuck on site in a van - it’s true, we rarely move the van once we are parked, but that means we walk or cycle more, use public transport, choose sites where there’s stuff to do near by, or just relax around the campsite while kids roam around - depends how we are feeling. It’s never been an issue.

Our van cost us £15,000 7 years ago and it’s 18 years old. We bought it before summer with the view that we could sell it again after summer (if we didn’t like it) and have lost less money on it than it would have cost to hire one. We didn’t sell it. We are just on our way home in it now after 5 nights away in Dorset. It’s been lush.

If you’re not sure you’ll use it enough (we don’t), consider lending it out - either officially renting it, or lending it to friends and family. We do that and it’s good for it to be used.

In summary, you’ll never go back!!

tallbirduk · 29/05/2019 15:16

Oh, and I can’t imagine ever emptying our toilet in a stream or ditch, leaving rubbish, or any of the things described, nor can I envisage the 99% of motorhomers I’ve ever met doing it either. It’d be like my mum doing it. No no, not the done thing at all!!

BlueSkiesLies · 29/05/2019 15:17

You're not helping my envy tallbirduk !

florascotia2 · 29/05/2019 15:47

talkbird I can't imagine that you - or your Mum Smile - would behave irresponsibly. Nor would the majority of campervan users. But there honestly is a small and inconsiderate minority that spoil things for local residents and for other campervan users.

Here is a very moderate website, that's genuinely keen to encourage people to come to Scotland (as am I - it's great to see people enjoying the scenery and fresh air etc). If you can spare a moment, please do have a look at it. wildaboutscotland.com/2014/11/30/wild-camping-in-scotland-camper-vans-and-motorhomes/

And here is the headline from the main west of Scotland local newspaper, just six days ago: [[https://www.obantimes.co.uk/2019/05/23/campervans-flout-argyll-parking-rules/]]
You will see that the front-page photo shows a quite horrendous list of regulations. They are displayed on a sign, newly put up not long ago. If people didn't behave badly, the sign would not be needed. It is such a pity.

AutovillaGirl · 29/05/2019 16:28

We have a camper van but are selling it, reason is we don't much like using it! Admittedly it is an unusual type van - a VW Autovilla, but we have found it too difficult to drive. It's 1974 and it's very different to drive from a modern car! My suggestion is perhaps hire a camper for a weekend to see if you like it before you splash out. All vintage VW's are expensive to buy, and you ideally need to do your own car maintenance as they often need tinkering with which can be expensive to take to the garage and even more difficult to find a mechanic used to this type of vehicle. My hubby did all the work on ours and would have cost thousands to pay for it to be done. Also, they look nice on the photos, but when you have put all your stuff in for a holiday space is very limited, and the bed in ours is not that comfy. Ours has a tiny shower room and loo but usually they don't. Also when you go out for the day you have to be careful where to park, and you need the space on your drive too. We had caravans for years and sold ours to make room for the camper van, we miss the caravan! If we bought again we would probably buy something like an Eriba caravan - small and easy to tow. We also have a large 6 man tent, which is spacious but not cosy like a caravan or camper. The main problem is finding nice campsites we find - they are often very expensive and crowded in the school hols.

ninja · 29/05/2019 23:31

@Joneill007 I've even thinking of getting a small camper - but it'd be my only vehicle so I'd need to be able to fit the kids in when they're here - how many seats goes your caddy have?

So many points for and against on here!

Joneill007 · 29/05/2019 23:45

@ninja it is perfect for nipping around town etc. It has 4 belted seats altogether, 2 in the front and 2 in the back like a car.

contentedsoul · 30/05/2019 00:09

I view camper vans like I view boats - they all look lovely to look at, but once your in/on one they loose their appeal. I've spent a few days on both and came away happy that they weren't mine, same goes for statics.
They are all money pits.

Each to their own, but I prefer just to look at them.

Lolly25 · 30/05/2019 00:47

We have a large motorhome...best thing ever. Well worth it. Especially as we have dogs.
Just to have the freedom to take off when convenient to wherever you want.

ninja · 30/05/2019 07:59

@Joneill007 sounds like what I want! I want something the size of a car but because I go canoeing I need something that will carry more kit and also have the option of sleeping in - I'm in the NW, if you're anywhere near then could you pm me details?

tallbirduk · 30/05/2019 10:13

@florascotia2 isn’t it the case with so many things that the actions of a few spoil it for the many? Such a shame Sad