To think that “Irish twins” is an offensive term?

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I read a thread on an American pregnancy forum about the term “Irish twins”. The OP posted some gushing statement hoping she was pregnant and that it would mean she had Irish twins. A commenter said it was offensive and I deeply agree. It was an idiom apparently created in the US in the 1800s, referring to the large families of Irish immigrants. It was derogatory, stereotyping the Irish for not having any sort of family planning and not using contraception. But this was hardly their fault as the church had banned contraception. The term has now become some sort of cutesy way of referring to two children born within a year of each other, and seems to be completely accepted. How can that be accepted and not considered offensive?!

You're in Northern Ireland, not Ireland

Wtaf is this shit now.

Because we don't want to be associated with your backward politics.

In the context of women’s reproductive health you really aren’t that far ahead.

I live in Ireland and I can't imagine anyone here being offended in the slightest.
Taking offence at nothing is more of a British thing in my experience.

Yes, you’re not Irish if you were born in Northern Ireland.
Of course you are Alsohuman. Has the Brexit debacle taught you nothing?

The church had banned contraception. I'm.sure people still took the pill ect. After all the Priest and Pope weren't going to keep your children, were they.
I could have Irish twins or what ever the correct term is. MC in 1997 due 1998 (April) and I dd in 1999.(March)
Although I do often wonder had my first pregnancy been successful would I have had dd.

Ireland is my country. Yours is NI.

Ireland is your island. It’s also my island. ROI isn’t your country. NI is my country. Two countries. One island. Called Ireland.

Yes it’s the island of Ireland of course but you were being misleading and suggesting you were in the Republic of Ireland as that is what is commonly understood to be ‘ireland’.

As nationality and citizenship is more complex in NI, there is certainly not an assumption that you would be Irish, so you need to be more specific.

Sorry- ROI is your country.

Yes, you’re not Irish if you were born in Northern Ireland.

What new level of shittery is this?

Hundreds of years of complex history aside, have you never heard of the GFA? Anyone born in NI has the right to be Irish only, British only, or both.

Yes, you’re not Irish if you were born in Northern Ireland.

Sweet Jesus do the words ‘good Friday agreement’ mean nothing to you?

The ignorance on here.

I presume the OP is sitting back and watching the entertainment

you were being misleading and suggesting you were in the Republic of Ireland as that is what is commonly understood to be ‘ireland’.

I didn’t suggest anything. I said I was in Ireland because I am.

Alsohuman-

Abstinence was available and free

So was the rhythm/ withdrawal method

So was choosing a non-procreative form of sex instead....

I hate it when people have a load of children then blame contraceptive failure- it’s not like you’re gonna die if you don’t fuck all day every day

Plenty of non-sexually active people live full lives

Honey, you're in Britain.

Erm if you’re talking about NI no they’re not.

@intothe you should be ashamed of yourself. Pup.

Into I don’t even know where to start with your last post.

First you make suggestions about children not being celebrated in England be now you’re saying NI is about murder and terrorism.

Honey, you're in Britain.

Check a map. It’s called Great Britain and Northern Ireland. NI is part of the U.K., not Great Britain.

Pharmacists in England can refuse the MAP. How is it different than one GP in NI doing it refusing the pill?

Happened earlier this year, because of his religion. No t catholic.

I live in England in a small town. Luckily I drive and could get to another pharmacists. Not so lucky for those who cant.

Not sure why people are using, occassionally not being able to get the pill in NI as a 'thing'

I think you’re just trolling now.

Intothe if you are actually Irish, I'm embarrassed to share a nationality with you. That ignorant goady shite you've been spouting about NI and its people has no place in a civilised conversation.

Nobody I know irl talks about NI like that. It doesn't ring true.